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In reply to Draga Musa Welli
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18 years ago
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Once, I played against myself (some might find this strange, but it's true) when I first bought the game, in an 8-player game, to test all the factions. I somehow managed to get all 4 magic skills for the Mages purely by chance. They often appear. So, suppressing magic skills is still a good strategy; sometimes it's useful to take them. I develop Blood Rage as quickly as possible. I also take Logistics, Leadership, and Machines; if Summoning appears, I might take that too.
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18 years ago
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For Orcs, you need the best skills for Castle Assault (in my opinion). I just don't use catapults... I prefer ballista. That's why I don't take Castle Assault, and I don't need it without the ballista.
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18 years ago
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Yes, Orcs are already killing machines even without a Secret Skill, but I agree with Knight – it would be better to replace the catapult with a ballista.
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18 years ago
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I usually play like this... I don't invest in defense – the Orcs' strength lies in their attack!
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А ты сказал, скрывая страх:
Таких принцесс в старинных пьесах,
В конце, сжигали на кострах...
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18 years ago
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T@mar@, I'm taking exactly the same skills, except sometimes I choose Luck instead of Call. But if these skills were part of the Commander skill tree, that would be great. Although, if you acquire the "Amulet of Mastery," everything will be very good. For Barbarians, the 4th level of their native skill is the best, which is generally true for the entire race.
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18 years ago
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Night Nazgul;172138
I always choose Education, mainly because of the Fireball skill.


Won't your Fury run out too quickly?
On one hand, you simplify the task of recruiting units, but on the other hand, you also make things easier for your opponent. After all, a stack of units under the effect of Fury, even if they are only 1-2 levels, is much harder to defeat. Especially if it consists of Cyclops, leaders, or warmongers.

In my opinion, Education isn't very appealing. What's actually useful about it?


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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18 years ago
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Wouldn't your rage deplete too quickly?
After all, on the one hand, you simplify the task of recruiting units, but on the other hand, you also make things easier for your opponent. After all, it's much harder to eliminate a stack of units that are under the effect of rage, especially if they are Cyclops, leaders, or warmongers.

In my opinion, the Education skill isn't appealing at all; what's useful about it?


I agree about the skill that Nazgul takes; it's not needed. And I disagree that Education isn't useful. After all, higher education provides a 15% experience bonus, which allows you to level up faster and gain the necessary levels and new skills. Secondly, higher education grants +1 to one of the hero's primary skills for every two levels, which gives you an advantage over your opponent. Therefore, take Higher Education as soon as possible; it's both beneficial and makes the game easier.
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18 years ago
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Okay, here's a question then. Let's take a campaign or a late-game scenario as an example, where heroes level up and acquire almost all skills. If you're leveling up all 5 skills, is it worth taking the Education skill? The bonus to skills is certainly good, but is it worth it, is it worth sacrificing a skill slot?


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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18 years ago
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It definitely is! Almost all stats go into attack, which is a huge advantage... And as for Blood Wrath, it's very useful: mainly because you start at level 1 of Wrath... And that's a massive bonus for both you and your troops.
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18 years ago
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Education is a versatile skill that is beneficial for both warrior and mage races. However, it levels up much easier for mages. +10 stats at level 20 is more than great. In principle, since we're talking about the campaign, it's quite possible to gather 40+ attack for Goshaku there, although this is closer to the end. One of my heroes had 26 attack and 16 defense by level 18, taking into account several minor artifacts (the bonus from them was not large). However, his spell power was 2, and knowledge was 3. Blood Fury is a very useful perk and doesn't have any drawbacks, as it might seem at first glance. It's like an equation in mathematics that we multiply by 1.5 (+50%) to make the solution easier. The only thing this perk gives us is that rage levels are gained faster. And that's worth it, IMHO. Although, if we're playing in the late game and we get Education, we can go into Mentorship and create a few extra hundred goblins.
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.


G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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18 years ago
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ZYbr;172155
Okay, here's a question. Let's take a campaign or a late-game scenario as an example, where heroes level up almost all their skills. If you're leveling up all 5 skills, is it worth taking the Education skill? The bonus to skills is certainly good, but is it worth it, is it worth sacrificing a skill slot?
In my opinion, Education is a very useful skill. I try to take it whenever possible and for all races. Experience is the most valuable thing in all RPGs. You can buy weapons, steal/earn money, but it's not so easy to get experience. Education is useful for all races, including Orcs.
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18 years ago
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Well, I don't know, Education is for those who like it; in my opinion, it's only worth taking closer to the final battle because of Fire Fury, but otherwise... I prefer other skills for leveling up.
I usually take Haghesh; she already has the basics of attack. We take Marksmanship; if it's not offered, we choose something from the racial skills; don't take new, non-racial skills, or you'll never get what you need. After Marksmanship, take Advanced Attack and Fire Arrows. You need to get them as early as possible; they help a lot in leveling up. Then, we try to get Mechanics; again, we don't take things like Leadership and so on; yes, we'll need them, but later, and they will definitely be offered later. Once we have Mechanics, we take Logistics; there shouldn't be any problems here; it's often offered. We level up Ballistics, Tactics, and Logistics simultaneously until we reach Path of War. And then, it's up to you.
If you take Education first (and if you've already decided to level it up because of the +15% experience, then you should take it as early as possible, because the stats are recalculated and what was missing is added, but the experience is not recalculated), so, if you take it instead of Fire Arrows, Mechanics, and Logistics, I don't think it will make leveling up much faster. The army will be weaker, and there won't be such a quick start. But if you're planning a long game and leveling up to levels around thirty, then Education will probably pay off handsomely, but such long games are rare online.
This refers to the game being played on Veteran level or higher.
In reply to Halfogre
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18 years ago
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I have a question regarding the Barbarian's main skill – Blood Fury. I can't seem to get Absolute Blood Fury to drop; maybe I'm doing something wrong? But getting Adept Blood Fury isn't a problem, so why don't I get the next skill in the sequence afterward? Or is it only possible to obtain it by equipping the Amulet of Mastery? I would be grateful if someone could explain what the issue is.
18 years ago
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The absolute level of a racial skill can only be achieved if the skill is at the expert level and the hero is wearing a mastery amulet. This applies to any race. There are no other options (cheating, hacking, etc. don't count). As for your previous post, Halfogr, I value education more for the bonus to stats than for the experience gain (although that's a nice bonus too). A huge attack bonus is guaranteed, and that's all an Orc needs. P.S. I was wrong about the Fury skill. It can actually be detrimental. Fury builds up faster, but it also depletes faster, so Fury levels are gained faster, but also lost faster. It's a double-edged sword, essentially. But I still don't give up on the skill and still consider it useful.
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.


G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal

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