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I understand. But as a universal tool for defeating elementals, especially on Impossible difficulty, where you usually barely have enough resources for one hero on the first day, I wouldn't recommend it. It all depends on the map. In Beltway, as far as I remember, you start with two heroes, and there are chests, so you can take advantage of that.
We played a championship on Dungeon, and Beltway was one of the five maps... I actually took 1st place there.
Everyone was surprised how it was even possible to get green dragons on the first week.
Some even asked for a step-by-step guide – if you're interested, look it up.

So, nothing is impossible.

And regarding the first day – if you start with a Warlock castle and build gargoyles... how many more units and gargoyles will we have? ;)
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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In Dungeon, they played in a championship – one of the 5 maps was Beltway... I actually took 1st place there ;)
So, everyone was surprised how it was even possible to place green dragons there in the first week.
But why are there dragons on this map? :confused:

Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров
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Arena... There are different kinds of tournaments. I can say that the dragons on the first map seriously impressed even the most experienced tournament organizer, whom we won't talk about today (I think I went off-topic).

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Thank you, I've fixed everything. Qwerty
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We played a championship on Dungeon, and one of the 5 maps was Beltway... I actually took 1st place there ;)
So, everyone was surprised how it was even possible to place Green Dragons there in the first week :)
They even asked for a step-by-step guide - if anyone is interested, search for it :)

So, nothing is impossible.

And about the first day - if the starting Castle is Warlock and Gargoyles are built... how many more units and Gargoyles will we get? ;)

I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just saying that not every map allows you to do it :) Specifically, to break through with a lot of units on the first day.
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why are there dragons on this map? :confused:
Yes, this is an arena-style tournament where you are given 28 game days (a month) and in that time you need to equip the hero—level them up, load them with artifacts, and buy all the troops... which is why the number of collected dragons is important here.

There was another feature there—we can also discuss it in this thread, although these aren't even tactical maneuvers anymore, but strategic ones—how to set a goal... and then look for the means... the second map there was also standard—Broken Alliance, where on one island is a dragon city with level 5 magic built up, and on another island is the computer with titans and also level 5 magic (Dimension Door)...
and here, for those interested, is a strategy challenge—figure out how it's possible to take the dragon city on day 117, and then the computer on the second island by day 121 ;)
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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and here, for those who are interested, is a strategic challenge – figure out how to capture the Stronghold town on day 117, and on day 121, capture the Companion town on the second island ;)
For clarity, could you post the map? Not everyone knows it... for example, I don't... :o
or, at least, what is its name in Russian?

Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров
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For clarity, could you post the map? Not everyone knows it... for example, I don't... :o
Or at least, what is its name in Russian?
It seems like a fragmented alliance, a standard map, probably size M (medium).
P.S.: There can be different translations, and I might be wrong; I haven't played them much more than the fifth game. At least, this map was offered to me by default in single-player (I think the description mentioned a war for the inheritance or not; fans, forgive me if I'm wrong)). 6 players, look through the maps, you'll find it, or something like a "destroyed alliance" (synonyms are possible in different translations), and it seems like you can't play with 2 players. And Dragonspire is more like a city than a castle; I think Red Dragons are one of the creatures that spawn there.
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Yes, colleagues, Captain played so well back then that everyone was... well, very surprised. To this day, that game from that tournament is considered one of the best examples of gameplay on the Arena. Although, for the most part, it's less about "tactical combat maneuvers" and more about subtle strategic play, supported by tactics. The map "Broken Alliance" (Ruined Alliance, Rusty Alliance, etc.) is one of the most challenging. Of course, a lot depends on the position and starting castle, but there can be some tough scenarios on it...

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So, is it the default map in the map selection, um... I think it's in Succession War? In The Price of Loyalty, I think there's something else, but I don't remember.
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How can we talk about any specific tactics? It all depends on the surrounding circumstances. There is no single correct approach to combat!
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It seems impossible to reach the elementals in one turn on Beltwee. Then, there seem to be several of them, not a lot. Broken Alliance was incorrectly categorized as a normal card. There, a "Rearguard" with 10 Titans can easily appear on the 3rd week. That's when it gets interesting. I remember defeating it with a Knight and red birds. An advanced Knight had a power spell of 6, moved quickly, and defeated a Titan per battle with a couple of gargoyles and a couple of centaurs, and then moved away from the battle. But I managed to defeat only three Titans before the battle in the castle. Of course, 7 red dragons defeated 7 Titans. And then it became easier because I bought that hero for myself.
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If the nearest units are 1 peasant and 1 swordsman, then any unit except witches will attack the swordsman. I haven't investigated the behavior of witches.
Verified - witches will attack the peasant first.
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For now, the army is small, and the computer chooses direct damage spells. However, later in the game, it tries to cast, for example, a devastating beam on the titans.
Although it will deal a maximum of 50 damage, which is quite amusing.
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How do you fight against other players (heroes)? It's almost clear how to fight against the computer – it's simply not very smart. And what is more effective – defending or attacking? I personally prefer defense; I like to play cautiously. But is this the right approach? Does anyone have experience comparing the effectiveness of offense and defense? Please share!
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If the opponent has archers, attack; otherwise, defend. If your attack is much greater than the opponent's defense, attack. If you have a high magic power, stay put and use magic.
Любая дорога, которую проходишь до конца,
приведет в никуда. Карабкайтесь в гору чуть-чуть, только чтобы проверить, гора ли это. С вершины горы нельзя увидеть гору.
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