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well, as I wrote – it’s a good idea... when a player chooses a development path for their creatures, leaning towards one direction or another – it adds more variety...
Pavlinho
Posts from Heroes V: Seventh Dragon Era
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Should we take heroes from other parts of the series?
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2025-06-29
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yes
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Pavlinho
Sir Syddan
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I don't think the idea of alternative buildings is that great. In reality, there are already alternative upgrades that fulfill the need for variety. It would be really cool if each faction had a new building added, where you could hire a new, special unit, for example, leprechauns for the Elves.
temnyrizar
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I don't think the idea of alternative buildings is that great. In reality, there are already alternative upgrades that fulfill the need for variety. It would be really cool if each faction had a new building added, where you could hire a new special unit, for example, leprechauns for the Elves.
It would be possible to expand the creature hiring interface...
Модификация "New Era": 2%
Sir Syddan
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It would be great if the creature recruitment interface could be expanded...
temnyrizar
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It would be great if, like in 5.5, units could spawn automatically in the town.
That's also true.
Модификация "New Era": 2%
Pavlinho
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I don't think the idea of alternative buildings is that great. In reality, there are already alternative upgrades that fulfill the need for variety. It would be really cool if each faction had a new building added, where you could hire a new special unit, for example, leprechauns for the Elves.
temnyrizar
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Alternative creatures are currently in the lead, with 20 people choosing them. There are 13 people who prefer the so-called super-upgrades. People from different groups playing Heroes 5 requested this, but unfortunately, there aren't that many of them.
I will start working on the creatures next week.
I will start working on the creatures next week.
Модификация "New Era": 2%
Waterfall_13
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I'm for alternative creatures. =)
Why? Because I already have tier 3 upgrades, but no one has alternative creatures.
So, watching two identical approaches (super-upgrades) won't be interesting, but if they are different, we can compare which one is more "fun" to play.
Why? Because I already have tier 3 upgrades, but no one has alternative creatures.
So, watching two identical approaches (super-upgrades) won't be interesting, but if they are different, we can compare which one is more "fun" to play.
Pavlinho
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and what exactly are these "super upgrades"? is it like Colossus - Titan - Thunderlord - Super upgrade? which is the best in the entire line?
temnyrizar
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yes. In Waterfall’s mod, Titans become Arch-Titans and gain new abilities, as well as double health and damage.
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Waterfall_13
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What exactly are these "super upgrades"? Is it like Colossus - Titan - Thunderlord - Super Upgrade? The one that's the best in the line?
Bone Dragon --> Ghost Dragon --> Dracolich
Devil --> Archdevil --> Supreme Archdevil
Light Dragons --> Green Dragons --> Gold Dragons
Twilight Dragons --> Black Dragons --> Obsidian Dragons
Fire Dragons --> Lava Dragons --> Ice Dragons
Giant --> Titan --> Arch-Titan
These are from Tier 7.
You can also find this in lower tiers:
Archer --> Marksman --> Sniper
Vampire --> Higher Vampire --> Archvampire
Elven Archers --> Master Archers --> Wind Masters
Unicorn --> Battle Unicorn --> Light Unicorn
and so on...
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Yes. In Waterfall's map, Titans become Arch-Titans and gain new abilities, as well as x2 health and damage.
The damage is no longer x2, but x1.5. Those who play constantly complained that the higher-tier creatures were too strong. I nerfed them
Pavlinho
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So, instead of an alt-upgrade?
Waterfall_13
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So, instead of an alt-upgrade?
No, not instead, the alt-upgrade is in the same place as before. It's just that both the regular upgrade and the alt-upgrade can be used to improve the creature to the next level.
Pavlinho
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I understand... well, then I'll stick to my opinion. The creature recruitment system in Heroes 4 is the most interesting.
Sir Syddan
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I don't quite understand what makes your idea different from the alternatives? So that you can build EVERYTHING, without replacing any buildings? And then what would be interesting? An alternative is when you choose creatures and corresponding buildings to suit your play style, or for a specific map. Well, like in the 4th game, I don't remember very well anymore, but for example, you could build creatures - wolves, or an alternative - elves, some have good archers, and wolves, for example, have something else good. And the player chooses what suits them best.