Heroes V: Seventh Dragon Era — Modding

Pavlinho

10 months ago

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well, as I wrote – it’s a good idea... when a player chooses a development path for their creatures, leaning towards one direction or another – it adds more variety...

Sir Syddan

10 months ago

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I don't think the idea of alternative buildings is that great. In reality, there are already alternative upgrades that fulfill the need for variety. It would be really cool if each faction had a new building added, where you could hire a new, special unit, for example, leprechauns for the Elves.

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temnyrizar

10 months ago

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Sir Syddan

I don't think the idea of alternative buildings is that great. In reality, there are already alternative upgrades that fulfill the need for variety. It would be really cool if each faction had a new building added, where you could hire a new special unit, for example, leprechauns for the Elves.

It would be possible to expand the creature hiring interface...

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Sir Syddan

10 months ago

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Diablos_Map

It would be great if the creature recruitment interface could be expanded...

It could be done like in 5.5, where units spawn automatically in the town.

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temnyrizar

10 months ago

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Sir Syddan

It would be great if, like in 5.5, units could spawn automatically in the town.

That's also true.

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Pavlinho

10 months ago

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Sir Syddan

I don't think the idea of alternative buildings is that great. In reality, there are already alternative upgrades that fulfill the need for variety. It would be really cool if each faction had a new building added, where you could hire a new special unit, for example, leprechauns for the Elves.

I don't understand something, how is your idea different from the alternatives? So that you can build EVERYTHING, without replacing any buildings? And then what would be interesting...? An alternative is when you choose creatures and corresponding buildings to suit your play style, or for a specific map... well, like in Heroes 4, I don't remember very well, but for example, you could build creatures - wolves, or an alternative - elves, some good archers, and wolves, for example, something else good... and the player chooses what suits them best....

temnyrizar

10 months ago

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Alternative creatures are currently in the lead, with 20 people choosing them. There are 13 people who prefer the so-called super-upgrades. People from different groups playing Heroes 5 requested this, but unfortunately, there aren't that many of them.

I will start working on the creatures next week.

Waterfall_13

10 months ago

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I'm for alternative creatures. =)

Why? Because I already have tier 3 upgrades, but no one has alternative creatures.

So, watching two identical approaches (super-upgrades) won't be interesting, but if they are different, we can compare which one is more "fun" to play.

Pavlinho

10 months ago

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and what exactly are these "super upgrades"? is it like Colossus - Titan - Thunderlord - Super upgrade? which is the best in the entire line?

temnyrizar

10 months ago

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yes. In Waterfall’s mod, Titans become Arch-Titans and gain new abilities, as well as double health and damage.

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Waterfall_13

10 months ago

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Pavlinho

What exactly are these "super upgrades"? Is it like Colossus - Titan - Thunderlord - Super Upgrade? The one that's the best in the line?

Bone Dragon --> Ghost Dragon --> Dracolich
Devil --> Archdevil --> Supreme Archdevil
Light Dragons --> Green Dragons --> Gold Dragons
Twilight Dragons --> Black Dragons --> Obsidian Dragons
Fire Dragons --> Lava Dragons --> Ice Dragons
Giant --> Titan --> Arch-Titan
These are from Tier 7.

You can also find this in lower tiers:
Archer --> Marksman --> Sniper
Vampire --> Higher Vampire --> Archvampire
Elven Archers --> Master Archers --> Wind Masters
Unicorn --> Battle Unicorn --> Light Unicorn
and so on...

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Diablos_Map

Yes. In Waterfall's map, Titans become Arch-Titans and gain new abilities, as well as x2 health and damage.

The damage is no longer x2, but x1.5. Those who play constantly complained that the higher-tier creatures were too strong. I nerfed them

Pavlinho

10 months ago

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So, instead of an alt-upgrade?

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Waterfall_13

10 months ago

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Pavlinho

So, instead of an alt-upgrade?

No, not instead, the alt-upgrade is in the same place as before. It's just that both the regular upgrade and the alt-upgrade can be used to improve the creature to the next level.

Pavlinho

10 months ago

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I understand... well, then I'll stick to my opinion. The creature recruitment system in Heroes 4 is the most interesting.

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Sir Syddan

10 months ago

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Pavlinho

I don't quite understand what makes your idea different from the alternatives? So that you can build EVERYTHING, without replacing any buildings? And then what would be interesting? An alternative is when you choose creatures and corresponding buildings to suit your play style, or for a specific map. Well, like in the 4th game, I don't remember very well anymore, but for example, you could build creatures - wolves, or an alternative - elves, some have good archers, and wolves, for example, have something else good. And the player chooses what suits them best.

I also like the alternative creatures system in the 4th game, but in the 5th game, it's mechanically done better. For example, we have a defensive unit - Archangel, and an attacking unit - Seraphim. What can be added to alternative creatures? Unfortunately, the number of abilities in the game is limited, so it is unlikely that something unique can be created, and honestly, I don't really want to see another titan, but with wings, or a guy with a big sword like in the 2nd game, performing the same role as the Seraphim. Therefore, I am in favor of having one special unit for each faction, which would reveal the faction from some unexpected angle.