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Offline AstralLein
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A jester is essentially the same as a fool. In the description of the Plague, a theater is mentioned. A jester and a theater... well, they are somewhat related. Can this be considered proof that Jones at the beginning is the Plague at the end?
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"Плата за любовь"
"Путь некроманта"
"Темные грани"
"Рок Гримхейма"
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Offline Злобный Ящур
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Hey, check out this idea from Yashur: So, there are these guys hanging out in the chat on the 3rd night... Jones: What should we do, guys? Beckett (tossing Jones' heart from hand to hand): What else? Let's summon the Kraken! Jones: Hmm... And what will you do? Beckett: Me? I'll go block Fragment! Jones: Okay, you convinced me... Heroist-Prikhlop from the seabed: Captain!!! What if I'm a Heroist, not a Heroist Fragment is the Kraken?! Jones: What??? Beckett: Don't freak out! We'll make it! Heroist-Prikhlop: You're all crazy... The word "Fragment" can be replaced with "Artur_w" - it doesn't change the meaning. Before blocking someone, these guys should be sure that the blocked person isn't the Kraken. Otherwise, they won't just ruin his kill, but their own too...

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And I don't see any reason for such confidence...

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The parrot in Plesen's quest is a character who loves to imitate the voices of his teammates and cause trouble. Can he be considered a jester? Well, he's kind of flamboyant and not very serious, but it's not a clear-cut case.

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Hey, what do you think of this idea from Lizard:

So, the mafia guys are sitting in the chat on the 3rd night...
Jones: What should we do, guys?
Beckett (tossing Jones' heart from hand to hand): What else? Let's call Kraken!
Jones: Hmm... And what will you do?
Beckett: Me? I'll go block Fragment!
Jones: Okay, you convinced me...
Heroist-Knocker from the seabed: Captain!!! What if I'm a Heroist, not a Hero Fragment is actually the Kraken?!
Jones: What???
Beckett: Don't panic! We'll make it!
Heroist-Knocker: You're all crazy...

The word "Fragment" can be replaced with "Artur_w" - it doesn't change the meaning. The mafia guys should be sure that the person they're blocking isn't the Kraken before they block them. Otherwise, they'll not only ruin his kill, but also their own...

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And I don't see any reason for such confidence...

But the Heroist is dead. How can he communicate with the mafia?
Карты для героев 5

"Плата за любовь"
"Путь некроманта"
"Темные грани"
"Рок Гримхейма"
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Offline Злобный Ящур
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AstralLein
The character in the Plesen quest is a parrot who likes to imitate the voices of his teammates and create problems. Can he be considered a jester... Well, he's kind of flashy and not very serious, but you can't really call that a direct clue.

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The hero is dead. How can he communicate with the Mafia?
The Mafia ghosts in the chat can communicate with their living accomplices.
You don't know? Or are you pretending not to know?

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Offline AstralLein
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How would I know, lol? I'm playing for the first time. Besides, the chance of a "Maf" or "Beast" creature appearing is significantly lower than that of a town creature.

And why do "Maf" get such preferential treatment? Do they somehow preserve the consciousness of their fallen comrades?
Карты для героев 5

"Плата за любовь"
"Путь некроманта"
"Темные грани"
"Рок Гримхейма"
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Evil Lizard
Hey, here's a thought from Lizard:

So, these guys are sitting in chat on the 3rd night...
Jones: What should we do, guys?
Beckett (tossing Jones' heart from hand to hand): What else? Let's summon Kraken!
Jones: Hmm... And what will you do?
Beckett: Me? I'll go block Fragment!
Jones: Okay, you convinced me...
Hero-Clapper from the seabed: Captain!!! What if I'm a Hero, not a Hero Fragment is actually the Kraken?!
Jones: What???
Beckett: Don't freak out! We'll make it!
Hero-Clapper: You're all crazy...

The word "Fragment" can be replaced with "Artur_w" - it doesn't change the meaning. Before blocking someone, these guys should be sure that the blocked person isn't the Kraken. Otherwise, they won't just ruin his kill, but their own too...

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And I don't see any reason for such confidence...
What are you getting at? Was there an ultimate from Kraken, but not from Jones? What does that change?

I'm more concerned about why Tia isn't shouting that she's alive. Neyra-Cotton actively defended the version that Lock wasn't Cotton. Now I don't see anyone as active as her.

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Evil Lizard

Don't you know? Or are you pretending not to know?
Why would he need to know that? He's Kraken biggrin

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Lizard, I'm ready to support you and execute Astral. But only if I don't find anything conclusive in the evidence.
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Arthur was blocked today; he can’t be Kraken.
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Nebos, there's plenty of evidence pointing to Kraken. I believe in you. We need to send this tentacled monster back to the hentai dimension it crawled out of.
А, вот почему.

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In other words, they want to execute me simply as a scapegoat. There isn't a single piece of evidence linking me to the crime, but we're too incompetent to decipher the clues we do have, so let's just eliminate Astral, who is clearly undermining Kraken. Because it's perfectly logical that the one who is most actively trying to discredit someone is actually that someone. That's how it always works in life, without a doubt.
Карты для героев 5

"Плата за любовь"
"Путь некроманта"
"Темные грани"
"Рок Гримхейма"
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Sky
I just typed it into the Google search...
But it was a waste of time; you should have searched the wiki anyway.
Drakkosha
And I don't know why Tia couldn't resist. If a goddess is trapped in her body, you'd expect something more interesting from a person than just standing there like a statue.
Maybe because the goddess was tired of being in a mortal body? After all, she's a sea goddess, and in this way, she's kind of returning home.
AstralLein
A jester is essentially the same as a fool. The theater is mentioned in the death of Plessen. A jester and a theater... they are somewhat remotely similar. Can this be considered proof that Jones at the beginning is Plessen at the end?
Astral, these are two different clues.
Sky
I'm more worried about why Tia isn't shouting that she's alive. Neyra-Cotton actively defended the version that Locke is not Cotton. Now I don't see anyone as active as her.
Now, the second mafia player will come out of the inactive players and shout; I've already invited him to the chat.

Execute Astral for now.
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Basically, I don't know. For now, I've marked Ples as Jones, but I'm ready to change it. The table turned out to be very confusing; I hoped that the circle of suspects would somehow narrow down, but it didn't. Well, except that there are few peaceful roles left for Nebos, and Frag and Arthur can't be Kraken for obvious reasons.
А, вот почему.

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Offline Злобный Ящур
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What are you getting at? What's the deal with Kraken having an ultimate, but Jones doesn't? How does that change anything?
The point is, there was no block from the mages. Again! I don't know how Jones's ultimate is displayed, but if Jones used his ultimate, then the mages shouldn't have been blocking Arthur or Fragment...
And in general, Beckett should probably stay home to avoid trouble...
I'm still thinking...

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