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Offline Драккошка
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With that logic, it's easier to just beat NNV again.
You start the executions, and I'll join.
I don't know, if everyone starts executing Arthur, I'll join too. I don't have time right now to make my own table and check how many roles Ples has, but Arthur, if not a maniac, is still inactive.
А, вот почему.

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Well, I've already put forward my version of the ND, with only one comment: with the theft in one night, your theory might be more accurate than mine. But here, it's important to understand the following: on the second night, we only had one block, and there was no ND copying, which gives some clue about the monkey. I have no doubts about this.

As for the rest, I think Will is still with us.

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1. Why did the mafia block Ment? They didn't use the block on the first night, but on the second night, they suddenly needed to. It wasn't to kill Beckett, nor to protect, but specifically a block...
They probably checked and found the "not a pirate" status and blocked protection/guard/heal... Then Ment is Turner. Or Norrington.
Ment is not Norrington and not Turner. Note that the information about the role comes from the description on the first page, not from the movie. There is nothing about "supporting the captain" in Will's role at all, but now read the description of Gibbs. I don't think there will be any objections to this?
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Block from the mafia, a clue from Gibbs, theft from the monkey, guard or protection, and something "cunning"...
Yes, yes, yes, guard, protection is in place of the "cunning," I think that's how it is.
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If Ment is Turner or Norrington, then we get the displayed ND from the monkey, which means you have rum.
It seems like you agreed that neither the first nor the second is true.

I will get modkill for the rest of the answers, I will only say that there can be two versions here, and they lie in the subsequent logic of the monkey's actions, which we will be able to see in the final log.

As for the alternative to today's execution -
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1. Execute Arthur on suspicion of being a tentacloid. The fact that Nebo found something on the snail speaks in favor of this option. I don't rule out that it's a Berber. And yes, this is not a leak of an inactive player, but specifically because of the Berber, Nebka
2. Grab Fragment by the ass. He's suspicious. And I have my own reasons not to trust him. The problem is that there are supposed good roles for him, which is frustrating.
3. Invite Ples to the gallows because he has approximately an 80% chance of being a mafia member due to the block and the small number of peaceful roles on him.
1. There is an obvious (I hope) risk, I would like to reread and hear from Siva, Koshu, and Astral, do they agree with this candidate?
2. If Frag was a villain, his move of changing his voice from me is very unclear, and even detrimental, isn't it?
3. Ney, can you explain which peaceful roles remain for Ples, in your opinion?

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1. There is an obvious (I hope) risk; I would like to reread and hear Siva, Koshu, and Astral, do they agree with this candidate?
2. If Frag were a villain, his move of changing his voice is very unclear to me, and even detrimental, isn't it?
3. Ney, can you explain which peaceful roles remain on Plesa, in your opinion?
1. Well, I'm also waiting for the opinions of the others. Sky, for example, does not support it.
2. As if the Mafia has never tricked anyone before during a daytime vote. By the way, you are still not "beyond suspicion"; he could have easily tried to save you.
3. Since all protections are in place on the first night, Sparrow would not have allowed himself to be blocked; only Cotton and Tia remain. Losing the latter would be painful, so my vote is still not on her.
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I already explained that my proposal to execute Arthur is based on the Nebulae's research. Kraken killed two, which cannot be said about the Mafia. He is close to his ultimate ability. If Nebulae is right, it will be a huge victory. Yes, there is a downside. It's a victory for everyone, not just the peaceful players, but Kraken is Kraken. In case of a mistake, alas and alack. But no theory has any guarantees here. I'm not an experienced player, but I believe that if there's a chance to eliminate a mana source, we should take it. And, of course, I care about my own well-being; I wouldn't want to be the next one to receive tentacles in the dark. Or to watch as a whole group of players gets wrecked by his ultimate, if I understood the extent of its power correctly.
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"Плата за любовь"
"Путь некроманта"
"Темные грани"
"Рок Гримхейма"
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I just want to punish Heroist even more. So, I support Yashur and Neyra's decision. But I would still stick to Heroist.
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Guys, I've downloaded over half of Starfield, but I'll try to stay updated and cast my vote by the end of the day.
А, вот почему.

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Drakkosha
Guys, I've downloaded more than half of Starfield, but I'll try to stay updated until the end of the day and cast my vote.
It seems like everyone has already criticized it...
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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This is Skyrim with guns and Fallout in space; you can rob caravans and build settlements that will need my help. I've been waiting for this game for two years.
А, вот почему.

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I've already explained that my proposal to execute Arthur is based on the Heaven's investigation. Kraken killed two people, which can't be said about the Mafia. He's close to his ultimate ability. If Heaven is right, it will be a huge victory. Yes, there's a downside. It's a victory for everyone, not just the town, but Kraken is Kraken. If I'm wrong, well, that's unfortunate. But there are no guarantees with any theory. I'm not an experienced player, but I believe that if there's a chance to eliminate a Mafia member, we should take it. And, of course, I'm concerned about my own safety; I wouldn't want to be the next one to receive tentacles in the dark. Or to watch as a whole group of players gets taken out by his ultimate ability, if I understand its power correctly.

I would also like to execute Kraken, rather than a potential Mafia member – the Heroist. But it's unlikely that my guess is correct. The probability that the Heroist is Mafia is greater than the probability that my guess is correct.
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Neiko
Why do you think it's better to execute the Heroist?
He talked too much in his last post.

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But if, by some miracle, he's not Mafia, it will be very disappointing, strange, and I'll just feel stupid.
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Neiko
Yashur, as a guaranteed peaceful player, what do you think?
I'm seriously considering the possibility that, although there's only one block in the newspaper (I think I already agree that Fragment had Gibbs), it's from the Monkey, not from the Mafia.
If the Mafia decided not to use the block on night 1, why would they do it on night 2 without a good reason? If they didn't check Mental or checked that he's a Pirate (I already agree that he's Gibbs), who did they block? And most importantly, what made them do it? I don't see any reason...
But using the Monkey's block to "protect" Heroist in this way is easy. If he's the Executioner, then it all makes sense: he had immunity, and protection from Beckett wasn't needed yesterday.
And today, protection from Beckett seemed much more important than the block.
In any case, judging by night 1, the Mafia doesn't consider the block to be something important enough to prefer it over protection or Beckett's kill...
So, I'll leave my vote on Heroist for now.
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).
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I would also like to execute Kraken, not a potential Mafia member - a Heroes player. But it's unlikely that my guess is correct. The probability that the Heroes player is Mafia is greater than the probability that my guess is correct.

But what if he's Beckett? Execution won't work. Beckett also has a bottle.
Карты для героев 5

"Плата за любовь"
"Путь некроманта"
"Темные грани"
"Рок Гримхейма"
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If the Mafia decided not to use the block during the first night.
So, it seems they decided to kill with the blocker.
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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