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#588
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Don't punish the Heroes player, punish the Hero player.
А, вот почему.

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#589
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The monkey robbed Heroista on the first night. On the second night, we have 2 blocks (one from the Mafia, the other from the Monkey). This means Heroista had a bottle of rum. Among the peaceful roles, rum is held by Elizabeth (Locken - dead), Gibbs (definitely not Heroista, as he had his night kill on him on the first night + this role is presumably with Mental), Jack Sparrow, and Cotton. The monkey ignores the block but doesn't ignore the "leave me alone" action, so Heroista is not Jack. That leaves Cotton. I don't see Heroista in this role. If it turns out after the execution that he is actually Cotton, then of course I will apologize profusely, admit my mistake, and so on. But I highly doubt I will have to apologize. **Execute Heroista.**
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#591
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While everyone was busy with Yashur's body, no one noticed that the ship had entered a dense fog. Only later did we realize that we had gotten too close to the Misty Rocks, and the ship didn't crash into them only by sheer luck. The captain was furious and ordered the helmsman, Morning, to be punished with ten lashes. But the punishment was not to be carried out, as there was no one at the helm - Morning had disappeared without a trace. Two sailors desperately searched for him, but it was all in vain. On the helm was only a small piece of fabric with an attached tag that read "Made by the dangerous little Strela from Gilead."
Two sailors – Elizabeth's little brats: Will Turner and James Norrington. It was written about them on the very first day.

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#592
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That's quite harsh. But I enjoy learning from your mafia-like wisdom. Even if you decide to execute me one day, or perhaps, who knows, kill me quietly one night, your comments are still the most informative from my point of view. 

I tend to agree with you about the theft, but I wouldn't advise rushing. After all, Heaven might still be able to somehow detect the kraken, and the kraken is more important than any other character.
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"Плата за любовь"
"Путь некроманта"
"Темные грани"
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#593
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In the second game, we have 2 blocks (one from the Mafia, the other from the Conclave).
You seem to have latched onto this version very quickly; I don't quite understand why.

I'd like to hear where Gibbs' action took place on the 2nd night.

I'd still like to assume that all similar actions in the newspapers are displayed in the same way.

Block = isolation of a player:
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However, **Ple-Sen** was declared the culprit of the fight, and he was sent to the crow's nest to sit in solitary confinement.
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The first mate, noticing this, immediately ordered Ment to be tied to the bowsprit so that the others wouldn't follow suit.

Chur menya = superstitions, bad luck, omens, for which the player receives a beating:
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with holes in his pockets
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with a bag of salt
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quickly interrupted by a strong slap from the quartermaster
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Among them was, of course, **Fragment**, who had already managed to squander all his money, two goats, and a wife he never had.
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Fragment turned and spat over his shoulder, hitting him in the eye.
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and won the jackpot in terms of discipline with a club.

I also think that "holes in his pockets" is more of an omen, while empty pockets would be a better description.

By the way, if everything is as you say and Fragment was really blocked, then wouldn't there be only Cotton left as a peaceful role for him in the newspaper results?

Whatever
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#594
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A Hero, with holes in his pockets and bags of salt, is perfectly fine for 2 different night roles. And if the Monkey wasn't with you, where do you think it got stuck on the first night?

Regarding Frag, if he was actually blocked, then yes, there are no peaceful roles on him. Moreover, he can't be the Monkey in this case, because the Monkey's block comes after Beckett, which means the scenario where Frag-Monkey would block Mental, then get blocked by Beckett, and calmly steal from Revan, is impossible.

Overall, an interesting picture is emerging. Either we all read everything correctly, the Monkey harassed the Hero, and on the second night, it used a block on the likely Fragment-Executioner, thereby preventing the kill. According to this logic, the Hero is Beckett and is trying to divert attention from himself, because the Executioner is the least significant.

The fact that all the displayed peaceful roles are in the newspaper and that he cannot be Sparrow supports the theory that Fragment is Mafia in the case of a block.

The second option is that there was no block on Fragment, only Gibbs, the block is actually only one, and we are all addicts.

I'm not changing my vote yet; I'll try to gather my thoughts and reread everything later.
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#595
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Or could the monkey now be "radar-ing" Neko? Well, all this attention towards her seems less like protection or care, and more like stalking. Stalking involves observation, and the monkey is doing that by stealing the hat. However, for that to be true, she would have to steal the hat specifically from the person she's observing...
Карты для героев 5

"Плата за любовь"
"Путь некроманта"
"Темные грани"
"Рок Гримхейма"
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#596
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AstralLein
Could the monkey be currently "radar-ing" Neiko? I mean, all this attention towards her seems less like protection or care, and more like stalking. Stalking involves observation, and the monkey is doing that by stealing the hat. However, for that to be true, she would have to steal the hat specifically from the person she's observing...
This ND doesn't display and doesn't answer the question – why are there 2 blocks?
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#598
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Artur_w
Hello everyone!
Indeed, missing just one day of discussion due to ignorance and being busy, and suddenly you're under suspicion...
I haven't watched Pirates, haven't played anything similar, and I don't understand half of the local jargon, but I've partially grasped the rules and the essence of the conversation and events.
In short, I clearly have nothing to lose, so here's the truth.
1. Cat was giving herself away with excessive mafia-like organizational activity throughout the first day, and as soon as someone hinted at it, she immediately fell silent.
2. Revan either conspired or simply consolidated with Silverfail.
3. Naiko surprised me by being the first to suggest me for the role of Kraken.
4. Against Heroist, the monkey really seemed to use the steal ability.
5. With Yashur's return, there's no need to rack our brains over the "top-notch swamp killer," right? Aoi Tori and Nebo were clearly trying to steer us away from describing the "swamp killer," and for some reason, it seemed important to me.
6. Ment was pushing for the obvious nonsense about the Hound of the Baskervilles. And he was defending Nebo.
7. I'm not from here and don't understand much, but in the intro and in the second newspaper, there are goats (animals). Maybe it's important?
8. Mold and Cat are constantly defending each other with all their might. They don't even seem to be afraid of being exposed.
9. Aoi Tori persistently calls for Nebo to be executed twice. And he was the first to suspect Cat, by the way...
10. Astralien is clearly in a hurry to draw conclusions about me. But maybe he just latched onto an argument.
That's the situation. I haven't looked at the clues yet, but that's no reason to suspect me of bad behavior at night)).
Peace to everyone, and just in case, let's not speak ill of the dead 🙂
I think Mr. Arthur shouldn't be executed just because of how he writes his nicknames.

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#599
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Yashur, I'm interested in your opinion. In general, I want to talk to everyone, I'm curious about what everyone thinks. And overall, let's argue, but today we need to execute someone. For now, my candidates for execution are: Heroist, Fragment, and Arthur. I'm taking Revana off the list of mafias for now, he's on the list, but overall I won't vote against him today. We need to think about Plesen, there is at least one possible peaceful role for him in my opinion, so for now he's just on the list. It makes sense to execute Arthur based on the logic that he is Kraken and may use his ultimate ability tomorrow. If the guessers can identify him based on the second clue, then yes, I will agree to execute him, and Yashur will have to decide who to block at night from the potential mafias. I want to believe that Nebo didn't kill Yashur and Revana is wrong, nevertheless, I can't 100% believe him. Kosha and Siv are just here for laughs, they could be anyone.
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#600
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I have no idea why you decided that there was no night action from the Monkey on the first night. It is clearly stated about the Heroist having holes in his pockets – it’s hard not to notice and understand that this is about stealing. And that’s what I wrote after the first night. There is also an obvious theft on the second night. And most likely, a second action. Why you decided that this must be a block – I don’t know. In my opinion, there is little benefit for the Monkey from that.
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The Monkey stole from the Heroist on the first night. On the second night, we have 2 blocks (one from the Mafia, the second from the Monkey). This means the Heroist had a bottle of rum.
Among the peaceful roles, rum is held by Elizabeth (Locken – dead), Gibbs (definitely not the Heroist, because his night action was on him on the first night + this role is presumably with the Mentalist), Jack Sparrow, and Cotton.

The Monkey ignores the block, but does not ignore the “leave me alone” action, which means the Heroist is not Jack. That leaves Cotton. I don’t see the Heroist in this role. If, after the execution, it turns out that he is actually Cotton, then, of course, I will apologize profusely, admit my mistake, and so on. But I highly doubt that I will have to apologize.

Execute the Heroist.
Interesting theory. I need to think about it. In principle, I am ready to support it if I don’t find anything more plausible based on the evidence.
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#601
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I have no idea why you decided that there's no non-disclosure monkey on the first night. It's clearly written about the Heroist's holey pockets – it's hard not to notice and understand that it's about stealing. Which is what I wrote after the first night. There's also an obvious theft on the second night. And most likely, a second action. Why you decided that it must be a block – I don't know. It seems like there's little benefit for the monkey.
My bad, yesterday I was reading the newspaper and the players' daily posts in a hurry because I was doing everything during work hours, and in the evenings, I either watch TV series with my husband or just play games.
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Neiko
My bad, yesterday I was quickly reading the newspaper and the players' daily posts because I was doing everything during work hours, and in the evenings, either I watch TV series with my husband or I immerse myself in games.

Do other players also watch TV series with their husbands? 😠 Now, quickly, let's play Mafia!