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#7698
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Again, he says – “I have a meeting with the lord of these lands,” but the countess didn’t warn us about anything like that. It seems that if she wanted to meet him, she would have told us that a traveler was coming through the forest and that he shouldn’t be bothered, or maybe even that he should be given an honorable escort. Nothing like that happened. So, either the guest is uninvited, or the countess forgot))))) but there’s nothing we can do about it now.
Or maybe he meant that he wants to meet him himself and knows him personally, rather than it being something planned and agreed upon. In other words, it’s clear that he’s lying, but it’s not something that violates the rules we were given and shouldn’t be left to the city guard or the countess’s retinue. You can deceive him as you would a suspicious type, but to immediately attack with weapons…
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#7699
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In short, Gulveig should still roleplay as described. She has already experienced the consequences of her "righteous anger," and I also think that if she says so, the others will have to reluctantly agree, regardless of their feelings. But, if you decide to attack, there's nothing to be done.
 

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in my opinion, the role-playing aspect was about attacking and killing, considering what it is.
metagaming is not allowed – don't interfere, fearing for the characters, and don't refer to the fact that the character doesn't know something.
personally, I don't know any knights, I haven't read about the adventure, and I only know that the countess's husband doesn't like mages.
if your characters have any information about this, you can role-play it/explain it, etc.
it's up to you.

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#7701
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In general, if there's a way, I'd send the main group to the town. *Slowly. We need to carry Anselm and Imelda.* And I'd send someone attractive and fast to talk to the countess about this shady half-wit, so she can gather a squad.
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#7704
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In general, if there's a chance, I'd take the main group to the town. Slowly. We need to carry Anselm and Imelda. And I'd send someone fast and good-looking to talk to the countess about this shady weirdo, so she can gather a squad.
I think he's aggressive, but not stupid, and he'll definitely kill us for such tricks, and we won't even be able to put up a fight.
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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#7705
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Okay, I'll step away for now. Everyone present has already expressed their opinions. As I understand it, three are in favor of a peaceful resolution (ideally, according to my plan), and two are in favor of a wipe. Let's see what Fragment or Locken want.

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I think he's aggressive, but not stupid, and he'll definitely kill us for such antics, and we won't even be able to put up a fight.
As an alternative, he could go with a slow-moving group without Anselm and Imelda. And someone will stay behind to look after the wounded and escort them. But not everyone – someone will play the role of a messenger. But the choice is yours.
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#7706
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I'm for us all heading towards the city together. Leaving one and a half nearly dead heroes alone in a dangerous location doesn't sound like a good idea, just as attacking that guy doesn't. If he blows up the city or something after that, well... we weren't supposed to be here helping the countess anyway; Gungnir had something else in mind.
According to the role-playing, Rhohei won't attack without Veserod's approval, no matter how he feels in this situation, and if he doesn't get that order, he'll focus on helping the injured. I don't know if they can be helped without using healing potions, but considering Imelda's behavior, it probably wouldn't be a good idea, especially since they're alive and don't need resuscitation.
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#7707
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Anselm will now be taking a break until Baldur. I'll have to train the Landsknecht and complete quests for the Countess instead of him.
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#7708
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Suddenly realized that at first, the characters were being judged in Mirko based on their appearance, and then they themselves attacked the guy for the same reason 😓

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A cop reminded me that I forgot something. Anselm and Eyr still have their equipment.

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#7709
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Suddenly realized that at first, the characters were being judged based on their appearance in Mirkoor, and then they themselves attacked the guy for the same reason 😓
Moreover, Anders attacked, and he has one of the most serious problems with this. Perhaps he was very upset that he wasn't being let anywhere, and decided that he wouldn't let anyone else in either 😤
 

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#7710
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Judging by how the cat reacts, its stats, and unknown spells, its villainous face, and the fact that it's heading towards Rutger, this is most likely our client, and missing this opportunity means failing the red quest. The question is whether this might be another quest where the "GM-approved" correct option is to kill him. But after the failure in Tamfana, and after being intimidated by the musketeers in Elheim, choosing a peaceful solution will make this playthrough a nominee for the most shameful one – we've been playing for over a month, haven't completed a single story quest, and have the most cowardly party.
Roleplaying-wise, it's also strangely messed up. Since they attacked, we fight. And anyway, the worst thing has already happened.
Either way, let's kill him. That is, let's try.
E si sui vius, er mi grans benananza,
e si ieu muoir, er mi grans deliuriers
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#7711
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In short, this is my final opinion on the matter.
Overall, everyone is equally to blame for the situation: both the host who came up with a "fun" quest to troll the players, and the players who reacted to it in a completely insane way. At the same time, half of the players started actively pushing for a peaceful option (including me), while the other half pushed for an aggressive one, without discussing anything with each other, thereby ruining the entire role-playing experience.
The only reasonable way out of this situation would be for everyone to acknowledge their share of the blame and, through a joint decision, remove this event from the game, or at least return it to the starting point so that it can be resolved fairly. But since this requires being able to set aside one's own "principles" and compromise with other opinions, a peaceful solution is naturally out of the question.
Only conflicting options remain, in which either the majority or everyone will be dissatisfied. Whether it's a quest failure or a wipe, it doesn't really matter. For me, the most important thing in expeditions is the atmosphere, and without it, I don't see any point in participating in this event on either of the two (three) sides.
So, ask yourself how you would like to resolve this situation, and as a player, I can still control my own actions and don't want to get involved in this mess.

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#7712
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I wouldn't be so categorical. Revan sometimes likes to throw in surprises, where everyone expects one thing, but something else happens. Examples that come to mind easily are the cake in the palace filled with traps, poisons, monsters, and demons, which ultimately gave a bonus to stats, and the event with the architect, where Locken went into a dark alley with a suspicious stranger and received buffs. So, here too, there is a certain probability (I, like all players, cannot be 100% sure of it) that we are actually doing everything right, and this guy is an assassin who is going to "meet" with the ruler, and his incredibly powerful attacks are a balancing tool against the fact that we have also leveled up quite well. In short, I think Alex's theory makes sense, and the "shoehorn" syndrome has nothing to do with it here.

Perhaps the strongest counter-argument against this theory, in my opinion, is the stranger's strong, but non-lethal attacks. I personally cannot remember examples of enemies that needed to be killed doing this, but I am sure that they did it in cases where Revan wanted to force us to a peaceful solution. Therefore, any decision here will be ambiguous.
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?