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Moderators, please delete two threads and leave one. Due to a forum bug, the thread was created multiple times! Hello, heroes! I finally decided to write and ask about Mentors and maybe ask a couple of other questions (I don't want to create many threads). After all this time, I think that either I have a "cursed" version of the game, or I'm just "lucky." You'll understand why when I ask the questions. 1) Mentor - where can I find him in the Campaigns? Is he in the original Campaigns and the first expansion, added through a mod in "Lords of the Realm"? 2) What is the principle of Mentor generation in Random Map Generator (RMG)? To be honest, after all these years of playing Heroes, I've almost never seen a Mentor. I have a feeling that either the patch has bugged my game, or I'm just unlucky and everything is generated except for Mentors. 3) In this regard, maybe it's worth installing some additional mod for improved map generation? Maybe then Mentors will finally start appearing? (I wouldn't ask, but when you haven't encountered a Mentor for YEARS...) From this, additional questions arise regarding generation templates and other things: 4) Can someone explain the templates? As I understand it, it is even possible to create them, but how exactly do you specify the generation in them, and even more so, how do you specify the desired details (such as "one exit from the location + 1 portal with very strong guards to another part of the map on your native location")? 5) Is RMG Advanced a worthwhile mod? It seems to add a couple of minor features that, however, improve generation. (Maybe it fixes Mentors?) 6) As I understand it, regarding templates, there is some kind of table of object prices on the map or something similar that allows you to make the generation more accurate in the area by selecting a numerical value. Is there anywhere I can read about this? 7) Is there a mod for balancing campaign heroes in regular battles?
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1) Remix has a video called "Mentors in Maps," which shows where mentors appear in each mission. 2) Mentors are not generated on all map templates; they appear mainly on large and incredibly complex maps. So, when playing short games on medium-sized random maps, your luck has nothing to do with it. 3) There is a mod for new random map templates; unfortunately, I haven't played it, so I can't say whether mentors appear there. There is also a thread somewhere that provides detailed descriptions of all existing templates, plus new ones. I recommend trying them. 4) Yes, you can create templates (I did this personally with xuxo). But it's not an easy task (or rather, it's simple, but tedious). However, there are no guides on creating templates; it wouldn't make sense for me to explain it myself—it would take too long (perhaps Ment will answer). Unless you want to explore it yourself, and I can just tell you which tables you need to edit—there are no difficulties there, you just need to understand English. 5) Since the absence of mentors is not a bug, there is probably no "fix" in ARMG. But it is possible that a mentor is added to some templates. 6) You can read about it in the thread with the description of the templates; you need to change them in the settings for templates and zones. 7) Some campaign heroes are unbalanced as it is; but there is definitely a mod for that—just Google it!
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1) Remix has a video called "Mentors in Maps," which explains where mentors appear in each mission.
2) Mentors don't generate on all map templates; they primarily appear on huge and incredible maps. So, when playing short games on medium-sized random maps, your luck doesn't matter.
3) There is a mod for new random map templates; unfortunately, I haven't played it and can't say whether there are mentors in it. Also, somewhere there is a topic with detailed descriptions of all existing templates + new ones. I recommend trying them out.
4) Yes, you can create templates (I did this personally together with xuxo). But it's not an easy task (or rather, it's simple but tedious). However, there are no guides on creating templates; explaining it myself wouldn't make sense – it would take too long (perhaps comrade Ment will answer). Or maybe you could explore it yourself, and I'll just tell you which tables you need to edit – as I said, there are no difficulties, you just need to understand English.
5) Since the absence of mentors isn't a bug, there probably won't be any "fix" in ARMG either. But perhaps a mentor is added to some templates.
6) You can read about it in the mentioned topic with template descriptions; you need to change them in the settings for templates and zones.
7) Some campaign heroes are already unbalanced; but undoubtedly, such a mod exists – just Google it!

1) Thank you. It was indeed helpful. Plus, I saw who the co-authors were 😄. And does the mod that adds campaigns from previous expansions also add mentors anywhere?
2) That's exactly the problem. I played different maps. For 4/6/8 players, huge ones, and even bigger and incredible ones (although these were rarer). And still, I didn't encounter a mentor.
3) Yes, I think I installed a collection of those templates. It was a while ago, though, and I don't remember. Either it was a link from Tgame, or I stumbled upon it on the forum myself. If they were actually the same templates at all.
4) There are no problems with English. And I have participated in modding various games before. But so far, I don't even understand the basic principle of creating templates. I saw some kind of their cobbled-together schemes, like Photoshop images, and that's it. Hopefully, Ment will answer.
How long does it take to work on a template, by the way?
5) Have you tried this mod yourself?
6) Is this the topic? /topic/11731/
And where are these settings located?
7) I couldn't find a balanced version of heroes from the campaign using Google. Just a mod for adding them? Yes. But one that would adjust the balance...
They seem to be available in the Nhs build(?), but that's something else.

By the way, I found a mod that restores the original "Inquisitor vs. Archdemon" menu, but it plays Orc music there... Can I somehow restore the classic menu music from the original game?
Is there a mod/file that returns Jezebel's model from the early patches of the game?

P.S. Are you not a moderator here?
P.P.S Has the forum been lagging lately? I keep getting 502 or 504 errors...
And is there any way to prevent being logged out of my account on the forum after some time?
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1) If this is a hint, I'm warning you that I wasn't a co-author; I just helped a little.
2) I used to play incredibly often, and I encountered mentors a couple of times, although very rarely. Well, it seems you're just lucky.
3) I definitely remember the templates that RedHeavenHero posted here.
4) Great! Then tonight or tomorrow morning I'll write which tables, at what addresses, and how to edit them, and then knowledge of English = the key to success.
Yes, I created them.
5) Unfortunately, no; you can ask any player of 5.5 where it's located and what ARMG differs in. You can do this in the 5.5 Discord group.
6) In the tables that I'll send.
7) Yes, I meant just the ones that add content. I don't know about balance mods; try NHF.
8) The game files contain music from the original; you just need to rewrite the path to it, not to the add-on's music.

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P.P.S. It was a month ago; it will be soon. To prevent it from kicking you out, set "Remember me".
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1) If this is a hint, I'm warning you that I'm not a co-author there; I just helped a little.
2) I used to play incredibly often, and mentors appeared a couple of times, although very rarely. Well, that means you're just lucky.)
3) I definitely remember the templates that RedHeavenHero posted here.
4) Great! Then tonight or tomorrow morning I'll write which tables are at which addresses and how to edit them, and then knowledge of English = the key to success.
Yes, I created them.
5) Unfortunately, no; you can ask any player in 5.5 where it is integrated and what ARMG differs in. You can do this in the 5.5 Discord group.
6) In the tables that I will send.
7) Yes, I meant just adding ones. I don't know about balance ones; try NHF.
8) The game files contain music from the original; you just need to rewrite the path to it, not to the add-on's.

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P.P.S. It was a month ago; it will be over soon. To prevent it from being kicked out, select "Remember me."

1) Yep, it was a hint). No offense. It's just nice to see that after all these years, the Heroes community is still quite close-knit and helps each other.
2) Perhaps... I'll probably play incredibly again soon. Maybe the chance is really higher there, but not absolute. That's why it happened that they didn't appear...
4) Thank you. If I have time, energy, and desire, I might create some templates to my liking and post them here. More templates = more variety!
By the way, a question. Is it possible to set some strict parameter in the templates for execution? For example, "always spawn snow in the player's location #1"? Is it possible to create a map with players in a circle and a neutral city (can it be upgraded?) in the central location?
6) Okay, we'll wait. I hope I can figure it out.
7) I tried it once. I even suggested something for the mod. But I'm a bit old for that. There are a lot of new heroes. It's hard to find concise information. And that means it's unclear what's going on with the balance. Plus, you have to completely re-learn the non-canonical heroes.
Although, of course, there are probably some advantages to that as well. I think you can at least find a knight with a "fallen knight" from the start there.

I'm just a bit wary of mods that change the balance in the original Heroes. After years, I've gotten used to one type of game, and it's hard to perceive it in a completely new light.

8) Correct me if I'm wrong. To copy the music you need, rename it to the file used by the Hive menu, and then just replace the file?
Or is it still necessary to specify it separately somehow?

I understand that since you're a moderator, you've already deleted the duplicate topic?) I was just about to ask, because due to a forum bug yesterday, the topic was created three times. What caused the lag?
And of course, thank you!)

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Is it possible to "merge" a couple of mods together? In particular, I want to install mods for unique models that I found in one of the topics. But they are all separate. 1 file - 1 hero. I would like to make 1 common file that would change the models of the heroes.
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4) As far as I know, no. That's what GSC is for – to make locations random or determined by the chosen faction. All Multiplayer games with specific zones, treasures, and other features are custom-made; GSC can't bring such a thing to perfection. 6) I just got back from a football match in Luzhniki; I probably won't have the energy to explore anything today. 7) I agree, but the main version is quite balanced... 8) The original music from the original game is located in the Game Folder/music/MainMenu/, and from Lords of the Realm – Game Folder/music/a2/MainMenu.ogg. Just take the file from the first folder and replace the second file with it, renaming it as the second file (!). P.S. Yes, I deleted the duplicate threads. For the future: if you click "Submit Reply" or "Create Thread" and you are redirected to 502/504 errors, don't pay attention, don't rewrite, and don't resubmit the request. When the forum "recovers," everything will appear. About two months ago, our forum had some kind of issue, well, it was like a DDoS attack. Too many requests exhausted the resources, and the forum is currently being restored.

P.P.S. Yes, just put all the files (if they don't overlap in terms of the final xdb) into one pack.
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4) As far as I know, no. That's what GSC is for – to have random locations or locations determined by the chosen faction. All Multiplayer games with specific zones, treasures, and other features are custom-made; GSC can't bring such a thing to perfection. 6) I just got back from a soccer match in Luzhniki, so I probably won't have the energy to explore anything today. 7) I agree, but the main version is quite balanced... 8) The original music from the original game is located in the Game Folder/music/MainMenu/, and from Lords of the Realm – Game Folder/music/a2/MainMenu.ogg. Just take the file from the first folder and replace the second file with it, renaming it as the second one! P.S. Yes, I deleted the duplicate threads. For the future: if you click "Submit Reply" or "Create Thread" and you are redirected to 502/504 errors, don't pay attention, don't rewrite, and don't resubmit the request. When the forum "recovers," everything will appear. About two months ago, our forum had some kind of issue, well, it was like a DDoS attack. Too many requests exhausted the resources, and the forum is currently being restored.

P.P.S. Yes, just put all the files (if they don't overlap in terms of the final xdb) into one pack.

4) Ah, the dream of having a super advanced and random GSC in Heroes...
6) Of course. And if it's convenient, feel free to write. 7) Well, I just asked about it in the mod thread. Maybe I'll install it after all these years. At least it will add some variety. 8) Yep, I've already figured it out in related topics. It's all incredibly simple.

P.S. Thanks for deleting the duplicates. Yes, I've already experienced this when "creating a thread." Now I'm trying to use the forum more carefully until it's restored. It's good that the moderation is also adequate. Otherwise, another moderator might have banned me for creating multiple threads.

P.P.S. The files have the .h5u extension. How can I create one such file that encompasses all the model changes? And is it even possible to do it with one file? Or do I need to create a folder and put them in separately? But will the game read the usermods folder?
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P.S. Thank you for removing the duplicates.
Yes, I already felt this when it came to "creating a topic." Now I try to use the forum more carefully until it's restored. It's good that the moderation is also adequate. Otherwise, another moderator might have banned me for creating multiple topics.

P.P.S. The files have the .h5u extension. How can I create one such file that covers all the model changes? And is it even possible to do it with one file?
Or do I need to create a folder and put them in separately? But will the game read the usermods folder?

No, banning for creating multiple topics is bad form, and it's not written in the rules either.

You create a folder called MyMod; you unpack all the required mods into it, if these mods do not overlap in the final xdb files (for example, they change the same hero's file). If they do overlap, the program will ask you if you want to replace, not copy, or copy with a different name. Overlapping mods are incompatible, and at the points of intersection, you will need to choose which one is better.
But now, all the unpacked mods (with the unchanged directory structure) are in your folder. Now, right-click on this folder => Send to Zip archive. We get a zip folder. We rename it to .h5u manually and put it in Usermods.
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No, banning for multi-threading is bad form, and it's not written in the rules either.

You create a folder called MyMod; you extract all the required mods into it, if these mods don't overlap in terms of the final xdb files (for example, they modify the same hero's file). If they do overlap, the program will ask you if you want to replace, not copy, or copy with a different name. Overlapping mods are incompatible, and at the points of intersection, you will need to choose which mod is better.
But now, all the extracted mods (with the unchanged directory structure) are in your folder. Now, right-click on this folder => Send to Zip archive. You get a zip folder. Rename it to .h5u manually and put it in UserMods.
How permissible is it on the forum to use ready-made mods created by other people in your own work? I just want to create a mod collection for unique hero appearances. Essentially, without creating anything new, but by compiling separate mods into one convenient package.

Ahahaha). So, you just take it and change the archive extension? Meaning mods are just regular archives with files?
And will there be any problems if I put the .h5u mod files from the usermods folder into an archive and then convert it back to .h5u?

Incidentally, another idea has come up... I understand that it probably doesn't concern you, and you might not even know. But why not ask? Maybe someone will like such a mod if I manage to create it.

Idea: Create a mod that replaces the music in the game. It turns out that you also need to create directories and put the music in them. But where can I create the .ogg extension for the music, and will it be affected during the transformation?
The mod should be created according to the principle described above with usermods (but how does the game recognize a mod so that the files from the mod are used with priority compared to the standard music files?) or should I just create an archive with directories and let people simply replace their music with these files?

P.S. Is there a model of Biara in the folders anywhere? And how can I make this model be used for Jezebeth? Should I write the name in the model - "Inferno - Jezebeth.h5u" or should something inside the file itself be changed?

Again, thank you for the answers.

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Ugh. I tried to make a mod. In the end, I did as it was written, but the game doesn't start. To understand, I opened one of the .h5u files with WinRAR. As a result, I realized that you can't put .h5u mods into one .h5u mod so that it works.
It turns out that you need to open each file manually. Extract the files from it, and then combine all these files into an archive and then convert it to .h5u? Or do you need to somehow specify/insert these files somewhere? (I just don't understand how the game reads and understands where to use the files from UserMODs)
Is there a quick way to extract all the files from a bunch of small .h5u mods to combine them into one global mod? Or is it only possible slowly, one by one, through the archive?
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You can use other people's mods on the forum, but you must always credit the original author and, ideally, provide a link to the mod. .h5u and .h5m are archive formats. You can convert to .ogg manually by renaming the file or using online converters like convertio.co. So, for a mod that replaces music, you need to: 1) Create the same folder structure as in the game directory. 2) Take your music files, rename them to match the original file names, and place them in the corresponding folders. If it's not clear: in the music folder, there's an a2 folder, and in it, there's MainMenu.ogg. Let's say I want to replace it with my Rammstein Sonne.mp3. I create a folder on the Desktop named music, in it, I create a folder named a2, and in the a2 folder, I put Sonne.mp3, which I rename to MainMenu.ogg. Done. To install this "mod," you need to put the music folder into the game folder and answer "yes" to the system's prompt to replace files with matching names. In general, you're replacing the game's files with your own. The Biara model is located somewhere in Characters/Heroes/DialogScenes/, and you can select it for Jezebel using the method described in my guide "How to Create Your Own Hero," but instead of creating a new shared file, you edit what Jezebel already has. P.S. I have no idea what you did or how, so I can't say what's wrong. To combine all the mods into one, you need to open them one by one with an archiver and put them into a common archive, which you then rename to h5u.
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You can use mods from other sources on the forum, but you must always credit the original author and, ideally, provide a link to the mod.

.h5u and .h5m are archive formats.

You can convert to .ogg manually by renaming the file or using online converters like convertio.co. So, for a mod that replaces music, you need to: 1) Create the same folder structure as in the game directory. 2) Take your music files, rename them to match the original file names, and place them in the corresponding folders. If it's not clear: in the music folder, there's an a2 folder, and in it, there's MainMenu.ogg. Let's say I want to replace it with my Rammstein Sonne.mp3. I create a folder on my desktop named music, in it, I create a folder named a2, and in the a2 folder, I put Sonne.mp3, which I rename to MainMenu.ogg. Done. To install this "mod," you need to put the music folder into the game folder and, when the system asks if you want to replace files with the same names, answer yes. In general, we're replacing the game's files with our own.

The Biara model is located somewhere in Characters/Heroes/DialogScenes/, and you can select it for Jezebel using the method described in my guide "How to create your own hero," but instead of creating a new shared file, you edit what Jezebel already has.

P.S. I have no idea what you did or how, so I can't say what's wrong. To combine all the mods into one, you need to open each one with an archiver and put them into a common archive, which you then rename to h5u.


Understood. Luckily, the link where I got the mods has references to some of the authors =).

Since these are just archives, does the game somehow interact with the archives and determine where to put them when the executable starts, or something like that? You don't manually put the model folders, etc., into all the game folders. They're just put together in one mod, which you place in UserMODs.

Thanks! I'll keep the converters in mind.
1) Should the folder structure look like this? For example: Heroes of Might and Magic V - Tribes of the East\music\a2\New Music, but with the name of the music I want to replace in the game?
Or, according to your example, is it enough for the mod to use only the music directory as the main one?
By the way, is there any information on the forum about the music in the folders? Which directory contains which sounds for the Warlords of the East?
And you mentioned "In general, we're replacing the game's files with our own." - Is it possible to make the game play the mod's music without replacing the original files, using the .h5u file in UserMODs? Or are music mods required to replace the original music without fail? (I might not be explaining my thoughts clearly here on the forum, but I'm trying to make it clearer. If something is unclear, you can ask).

I don't have a "Characters/Heroes/DialogScenes/" section at all.

Can you provide a link to the guide?

P.S. I created a UserMODs folder. I put a bunch of small mods that change the hero models in .h5u format into it. Then I archived UserMODs and renamed the extension to .h5u (I created a kind of nested mod 😀). But in the end, the game refuses to start this way.
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Yeah... You're a real genius! No one has ever tried to present such a mess and hilarious nonsense to me before. Okay, I'll explain again.
The game accesses game archives through the executable file; all of them are located in the data folder. The game also searches for files in the UserMods and Mods folders. It always uses the final files with the latest modification date. And in the mods that you have in UserMods, there is absolutely the same folder structure as in data.pak, just not all of it. Yes, the author could have changed part of the system by creating new folders and writing new paths in the xdb file.

However, the music is handled separately from the date, only through the music folder. Therefore, simply dumping files into UserMods won't work. The game always calculates paths relative to the root folder – "Herpes of Might and Magic V," and the paths are specified only relative to its contents, that is, exactly as I wrote above. Mods for music can also change the xdb file with a reference to the ogg file, and then the ogg files may not be located as they are in the music folder. For example, for my stalker mod, I created a music_stalker folder in the directory and, in the advanced map editor, in the Music table, I rewrote the paths to the music.

So, it shouldn't be in the directory itself! xD All of this, of course, is located in data/data.pak. And you can find a guide using Google. "homm5 how to create your own hero site:heroesworld.ru".

The last part made me smile. No, dumping a thousand other h5u files into h5u and hoping that the game will understand our innocent intentions is u s e l e s s.
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