Mafia 109. Dreams of the Void Warriors — Mafia

MasteR

11/18/2020 2:58 PM UTC

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ToX

This is purely a personal matter, not related to the game.

As far as the game is concerned, this is a very strange justification. There can be any number of personal moments, but that doesn't mean you should sacrifice the game for the sake of them. Okay, I understand.

Кампании для Heroes V 3.1 (Трилогия):

Пробуждение зла
Нашествие из Преисподней
Смена эпох

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Одиночные сценарии Heroes V 3.1:

Незваные гости
Красный кристалл
Синий кристалл
Закат тьмы

Мультиплеерные карты для Heroes V 3.1:

Легендарная война
Сердце вулкана
Передел мира

Arandor

11/18/2020 2:59 PM UTC

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clues > psychology
If we're talking about psychology, I'd rather execute inactive players. Theoretically, I can even imagine a city consisting of the Master, Nefela, Tox, myself, and someone else.

Be strong. Believe

Heroist

11/18/2020 3:00 PM UTC

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Well, if we assume that the Fortress faction has assembled a super-active team, then their chances are already quite low. But for me, that sounds extremely unlikely. Anyway, let's go with Nefele/Krabby, whichever has more supporters.

Whatever

Arandor

11/18/2020 3:01 PM UTC

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Actually, I tend to think that there are more inactive players among the Mafia faction, maybe two, and one active player (but that's not certain).

Be strong. Believe

Tiel

11/18/2020 3:08 PM UTC

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Arandor

There are more inactive members than active ones, maybe two of them.

Give them a nudge, and ask them to write something.

Come on then. Take a sit and have a drink. We can watch life pass on by.

MasteR

11/18/2020 3:10 PM UTC

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In short, here's my vision, which might be controversial, but nonetheless.

What I wouldn't want today is to accidentally eliminate a Stronghold player (Bol). After rereading the discussions from days 1 and 2, I've come to the conclusion that Crabbi and Nefela are most likely not in a Stronghold alliance. I would suggest that today we focus on the Non-Neutral Vote (NNV), and tonight let Bol target one of the pair Crabbi/Nefela. Fortunately, there will be no more redirects, so we won't accidentally eliminate Bol, although a block might interfere, but the Mafia could provide information through a block. What does everyone think about this?

ToX

11/18/2020 3:15 PM UTC

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Or maybe in Heroes of Might and Magic? :(

Tiel

11/18/2020 3:15 PM UTC

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MasteR

What does everyone think about this?

I'm still leaning towards Krabi being the mafia, IMHO. So let Bol shoot him.

Come on then. Take a sit and have a drink. We can watch life pass on by.

Heroist

11/18/2020 3:20 PM UTC

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No, I won't allow you to say such nonsense.
Regarding the "New and Notable" section, we can include it, but I'd like to hear from both candidates first.

Whatever

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MasteR

11/18/2020 3:20 PM UTC

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For now, I don't see any particular reason for that. Maybe later, the situation will become clearer, but for now, everything is vague. When I tried to analyze him psychologically, it usually ended badly.

Кампании для Heroes V 3.1 (Трилогия):

Пробуждение зла
Нашествие из Преисподней
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Одиночные сценарии Heroes V 3.1:

Незваные гости
Красный кристалл
Синий кристалл
Закат тьмы

Мультиплеерные карты для Heroes V 3.1:

Легендарная война
Сердце вулкана
Передел мира

ToX

11/18/2020 3:22 PM UTC

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Alright, let's make a move.

Gumer, Makka, Nefela, Alex, we need to execute the Master. So, right now, we open a separate voting thread – and we don't change our votes until the end of the day. I really ask you to play with me and trust my judgment.

We check if Suffering is among Master-Arandor-Crabby-Heroist. If not, and Master is Mafia, then everything is fine, we write Nefela to the Iron Worlds and continue. If not, and Master is Town, then Bol' shoots me as the initiator. If Suffering is present, then we will have a No Night Vote – and we continue playing based on that information.

If someone tries to butter us up and disrupt the voting, we redirect our votes to a parallel thread in the following order: 1, I redirect; 2, Gumer redirects; 3, Nefela redirects; 4, Makka redirects; 5, Alex redirects.

Let's go!

Cancel Heroist, execute Master.

Нефела

11/18/2020 3:25 PM UTC

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I disagree with executing Nefela; I think she's more light gray than dark gray.
I really don't like her passive stance; she could at least pretend to be more active!
But that's just how it is.
If anyone wants to accept my envelope, I'm not against it, unfortunately, real life is overwhelming me. In return, I can offer the secret of my envelope, or... or I won't give it to you, I'll just ignore everything and indulge in some escapism.

If you have any questions for me, I'm ready to answer them.

Oh, and Tox. Considering that you probably know next to nothing about my role, there's no need to play the white knight. I could be either a villager or a mafia member.
If anything, don't look for any hidden meaning in that.

I can also comment on some other quotes from the thread.
For example, I think it's very strange to suggest that the mafia chat should oversee/help/choose the direction of someone's messages.

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Tox, why specifically the Master?

Каждому будет дано по его вере

ToX

11/18/2020 3:26 PM UTC

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Tox, why specifically the Master?

Because he's the most dangerous player if he's Mafia. Because, according to my assessment, there are very few peaceful roles targeting him. Because I want to see the reaction of the other players, the ones I didn't bring into my team. Because he wants to eliminate you. Because it's a risk I'm willing to take.

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MasteR

11/18/2020 3:27 PM UTC

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ToX

Alright, let's make a move.

Gumer, Makka, Nefela, Alex, we need to execute the Master. Let's open the right thread – and don't change your votes until the end of the day. I really ask you to play with me and trust my judgment.

We're checking if Suffering is among Master-Arandor-Crabby-Heroist. If not, and Master is Mafia, then everything is fine; we write Nefela to the Iron Worlds and continue. If not, and Master is Town, then Pain shoots me as the initiator. If Suffering is present, then we'll have a No Night Vote – and we continue playing based on the information.

If someone tries to butter us up and disrupt the voting, we'll shift the votes to a parallel thread in the following order: 1, I shift; 2, Gumer shifts; 3, Nefela; 4, Makka; 5, Alex.

Let's go!

Cancel Heroist, execute Master.

And if Suffering is among Gumer, Makka, Nefela, and Alex, and I am Town, and you are Town (which I already strongly doubt), what will be the result?