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7 years ago
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So, nothing prevents players from arranging and playing a hypothetical 6LM match between themselves. The question is, what happens if one player wants to play on HotA, and the other on SoD? Since 6LM in the HotA pool exists, they will play on HotA, right?
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7 years ago
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The changes to the regulations were made taking into account the opinions of those who wished, but you can never please everyone, so please stop throwing mud around, especially since you didn't decide to handle all of this yourself.
I agree. There's no need to throw mud around. And in any case, there's no need to throw mud around.
As for constructive discussion, we are on a forum where everyone has the right to express their opinion. If the proposed scheme suits you, that's fine. But there are those who disagree with it, and they express themselves because they can.
Regarding providing a salary fund for judges and other expenses (at least to cover costs), this is all organized in a fairly standard way. It's funded by the participants and guests: 40 people who come "to a ready-made event" contribute a fixed fee to cover the organization and running of the event – and this creates the opportunity to pay for judging and other organizational matters (as is done in any non-sponsored social interest group).
It just so happens that in recent years, people have become accustomed to a certain amount of "freebies" – but now is the time when these "freebies" are coming to an end.
If HotA dominates in the mix, then the "true HotA players" (and this includes those who simply want to have the option of choosing an adequate HotA version) have nothing to do at the tournament. If SoD dominates in the mix, then the "true SoD players" are in the same situation. This is obvious, because in a pair of "true SoD player" and "true HotA player," the version with the larger number of templates will be played. The only way to avoid this, that is, to avoid the ultimate reduction in the target audience, is to have an equal distribution of versions. And there are two options here: either have a bidding war for the version in the last item of the template pool, or have a bidding war for everything right away – first for the version, then for the template from the list, then for the town, then for the color. :smile02:
But since the organizer's subjective opinion is key, and not the needs of the target audience, all these discussions are, of course, meaningless for SNG-2019. This year, the organizer has decided everything for himself and for everyone else – and now the public votes "with their money" – either they come, or they don't. :smile15:
But this does not mean that the discussion is meaningless in general.

Now let's move on to specific figures, because I, and I think many others, need a clear understanding of the final budget.
1. May 1st to 8th. That's 7 nights. 7 x $35 = $245 (16,300 rubles at the current exchange rate – I don't quite understand the rounding to 20,000) for accommodation + meals + hall. Am I understanding correctly? Because we may have guests without rubles, and in Georgia itself, Russian rubles are not used.
For those who arrive later/leave earlier, is the price calculated based on $35/day or otherwise?
2. Opening banquet. The cost of 2000 rubles ($30-31) is paid separately:
does this include alcohol or not (I know that Nico wanted to provide some alcohol for the group – but the question is about the paid part of the banquet in terms of alcohol from the hotel)?
3. Excursion to Kakheti – This is one of the ancient regions of Georgia, known for its winemaking, kebabs, ancient temples, and interesting castles – 2700 rubles ($40-41):
does this include full transfer, tastings, and kebabs, or is it otherwise?
4. Is there a mandatory fee for the prize pool (500 rubles) from spectators this year?
5. "Poker tournament NL HL 1000 rubles with re-buys and add-ons" – is there a commission in the prize pool for the Heroes tournament?
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7 years ago
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Constructive feedback is easier to read and digest:smile23:
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7 years ago
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7 x $35 = $245 (16,300 rubles at the current exchange rate - I didn't quite understand the rounding up to 20,000)
The famous Yekaterinburg rounding :D :D :D
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7 years ago
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Answering Merlin's questions: 1. My calculation is $35 per day, because Nika mentioned the cost per day of stay, not just for the nights. If the price is per night, it will be lower. The exchange rate is not based on the Central Bank of Russia, but on 70, because the purchase rate is significantly higher than the selling rate. Also, it's unclear how much it will increase by May. Total: 35 * 8 * 70 = 19,600.00 rubles, rounded up to 20,000.00!! Yes, it's a Ural-style rounding. 2. The banquet with drinks, which Nika will bring, can be purchased at the hotel. The fact is that the alcohol Nika brings as a gift will be enjoyed one evening, not at the banquet. 3. This is an excursion + transfer. Nika is in charge of the excursion; I will clarify the details with him and write a detailed description in the CIS topic later, specifying what each person will do. 4. I didn't plan that. 5. I think a standard commission of 15%.
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7 years ago
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That’s why I’m asking – will the hotel bill be in dollars (which can currently be purchased for 66.75) or in the local currency? If we don’t arrange for a late check-out on the 8th and everyone checks out before the standard hotel check-out time, we can negotiate a discount for one day.
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That's why I'm asking - will the hotel bill be in dollars (which can currently be bought for 66.75) or in the local currency? If we don't arrange for a late check-out on the 8th, and everyone checks out before the standard hotel check-out time, we can negotiate a discount for one day.
I will discuss this with the hotel in the next few days, and then we'll see. For those paying in dollars, the price will be $35 per day, which is currently 8 days. I'll try to arrange for 7 nights with a standard check-in at 2:00 PM and check-out before 12:00 PM.
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7 years ago
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I also checked the ticket prices – 15k (round trip), and for May, it’s 22k via Moscow, so the answer became obvious=))
04/30. Sochi-Tbilisi 4557, 05/09. Tbilisi-Rostov-on-Don 5396. Direct flights only. Now I just need to figure out how to get to those cities :D
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7 years ago
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Hello everyone!
When the Tbilisi bid appeared, I thought it was a joke. When the article about "...how an occupier..." followed, I thought my doubts were dispelled, and when people started buying tickets, I got completely confused.
Georgia is not Moldova, Minsk, or a hypothetical Volgograd (King's Bounty). I don't see the point in explaining why. Simply put, any action taken, say, in places from the list above, can be interpreted differently in Georgia. And the event itself can go very well, or it can end badly. But everyone makes their own choice; I hope everything goes well.
The Lesnoy Gorodok base in Odintsovo is the option I was working on last year – it got to the point of discussing a free day, menu options for a banquet at 2,000 rubles, and general discounts. However, work didn't allow me to finalize this option, and no helpers were found. As an option, we could try it next year if there are helpers.
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7 years ago
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Albert@s
Hello everyone!
When the Tbilisi bid appeared, I thought it was a joke. When a note about "...how an occupier..." followed, I thought my doubts were dispelled, and when people started buying tickets, I got completely confused.
Georgia is not Moldova, Minsk, or a hypothetical Volgograd (King's Bounty). I don't see the point in explaining why. Simply put, any action taken, say, in places from the list above, can be interpreted differently in Georgia. And the event itself can go very well, or it can end badly. But everyone makes their own choice; I hope everything goes well.
The Lesnoy Gorodok base in Odintsovo is the option I worked on last year. We got to the point of discussing a free day, menu options for a banquet for 2,000, and general discounts, but work didn't allow me to finalize this option, and no helpers were found. As an option, we can try it next year if there are helpers.
Brother, 5 minutes and everything will be ready :D
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Albert@s
Hello everyone!
When the Tbilisi request appeared, I thought it was a joke. When the note about "...as an occupier..." followed, I thought my doubts were dispelled, and when people started buying tickets, I got completely confused.
Georgia is not Moldova, nor Minsk, or a hypothetical Volgograd (Korolev). I don't see the point in explaining why. Simply put, any action taken, say, in the places listed above, may be interpreted differently in Georgia. And the event itself may go very well, or it may end badly. But everyone makes their own choice; I hope everything goes well.
The Lesnoy Gorodok base in Odintsovo is the option I worked on last year. We got to the point of discussing a free day, menu options for a banquet for 2K, and general discounts, but work didn't allow me to finalize this option, and no helpers were found. As an option, we can try it next year if there are helpers.
Of course, let's do it next year, and this year, welcome to Tbilisi

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