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Registered: 11/23/2007 1:34 PM UTC

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3/5/2018 7:51 PM UTC #2

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"only XL-5"

Past Tournament Winners:

only XL ✔ AlexTheGreat
only XL-2 ✔ Maretti
only XL-3 ✔ Gomunguls
only XL-4 ✔ Dave_HUN
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I. Rules and Templates.

1. Game Version. The tournament will be held on version SoD 3.2(4.0) + HD mod of the latest current version + HW_rulez 1.38 (when a new actual patch is released, this rule must be changed).
2. The main innovation! All XL templates used in the tournament (five): 8mm6a,8хм12а, 6LM10a, 8xm8a(8xm8b), Spider.
will be placed in one file-template rmg.txt. Players use this file when generating the map, which includes all XL templates without template labeling (it won't be visible when viewing game information).
In the game it will look like this:

Download and unzip the zip archive (at the bottom of the topic) to the root folder with the game (8xm8b was used instead of 8xm8a).

3. Castle selection: random pair + trade.
The host generates a pair of random castles using a special button. Immediately after generation, each player can request a regeneration once for 500 coins as compensation to the opponent. If at least one castle is repeated during regeneration, that same player may (but is not obligated) request a free regeneration until a new pair of castles appears.
4. After trading for a castle, there is a trade for color. To speed up the negotiation process, the red color starts the bidding in the table.
5. The total number of restarts is 3 days, i.e., 111+111+111, 111+112, 113.
6. Time limit per turn with chess timer - 21:00+08:00+01:15
7. Roads are medium and fast.
8. Guild Hall rebuilding option enabled.
9. Library in "Tower" allowed.
10. Timeframe for one game – 2 weeks (explanation for those who need it: you must adhere to the gameplay schedule – 1 game every 2 weeks; if you started a game with an opponent, then the time frame for this game is 2 weeks; if the opponent ignores or refuses to finish the game within the specified period without valid reasons, you have the right to demand that an ODD be assigned; in case of non-appearance, the opponent receives a technical defeat).

II. Regulations

Stage 1 – Groups

Two players with the highest number of points advance from the group.
In case of equal points, places are distributed according to additional indicators (in order of priority):
1. Berger coefficient.
2. Head-to-head result.
3. If it is impossible to determine which players will advance to the playoffs based on previous indicators, the players will be offered a scheme for transition games. At the moment, it is impossible to foresee all possible combinations of results. Therefore, the final scheme will be developed based on the situation that develops in the groups at the end of the stage.

Victory – 3 points; defeat – 0; draw – 1 point (counted at stage 211+ at the discretion of the organizers).

The group stage ends on June 6, 2018
(no saves or replays will be accepted, results will be posted based on submitted tournament reports)

Stage 2 – Olympic System

On June 21, 2018, the playoff draw will take place.

Two players who took 1st and 2nd places from the groups advance and are randomly distributed into the bracket.
Games in the playOff stage are played according to the bо3 system (3-4 weeks).

III. Organizational Issues

1. The tournament starts on March 29, 2018, registration for the tournament is open until March 26 inclusive, up to 24:00 Moscow time (March 27-28 - determination of the final regulations of the tournament, group draw) 16 groups of 7 people = 112 people
2. The tournament is official.
3. The tournament is held according to Rules for organizing, conducting and participating in online HOMM3 tournaments.
4. Tournament host – rebellious (ICQ 345870761), organizational issues and media support – YaR (ICQ 287407342).
5. Tournament judge – Dima Surmay (ICQ 263293484).
6. Organizers reserve the right to refuse participation in the tournament to a user without publicly explaining the reasons.
7. Media coverage of the tournament will be provided by player YaR – organization of mutual streaming of games and video reviews. Registration for the tournament means consent to use your streams to popularize the tournament.
8. The winner of the tournament will receive a medal under his avatar and a ticket to the FB tournament :smile20:

In reply to rebellious

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Registered: 12/23/2011 8:08 AM UTC

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9/6/2018 8:09 PM UTC #876

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Excellent argument, he addressed it, said time is of the essence – and won... profit!

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9/7/2018 5:17 AM UTC #877

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If anyone is interested in this topic, here's what happened. Initially, I didn't think there would be any problems with HellLighT, as he played very often and for long periods, and at a time that was convenient for me. But when there were exactly two days left until the end of the tour and no agreement had been reached with HellLighT, I wrote to Rebellious, asking him to schedule 3 ODDs (for finishing the current game and starting a new one) if he could add some time, at least a week, for finishing the game. Rebellious added the time, but he didn't schedule the ODDs. Three days later, I asked Rebellious again if he would schedule the ODDs, and he replied that he would if we couldn't agree on our own. Four days later, I told Rebellious that I couldn't reach an agreement, and to my surprise, he started telling me that I was contacting him too late and that he was ready to remove both of us, but he still scheduled the ODDs. Moreover, Rebellious didn't ask me about a convenient time to play, and I didn't write to him about it. So don't believe HellLighT's statements like this:

HellLighT

Excellent argument, I contacted him, said what time, and won... profit!

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rebellious

The second or third ODD would be scheduled for the weekend. And again, it's not entirely certain, but that's how it is. The players are leaning towards removing both of them. Relying on the fact that this is the semi-final and giving the players more time doesn't impress me at all, since both are playing - including in the season. And showing disrespect to other players is also not permissible; one should be able to find a middle ground.

I don't fully understand what happens next. Can you provide more details?

In reply to Dima Surmay

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9/7/2018 6:28 AM UTC #878

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We agreed to play the decisive match on Sunday...
p.s. An interesting moment from the unfinished second game in the Odd-Even Draft: the series would have already ended if the opponent hadn't found a Cregg with an army of 3 angels in the Necropolis and, when I attacked the Cregg with 400 skeletons and 17 spells on the second week, with stats 5 2 2 2, I was unpleasantly surprised and, not being able to keep up with the angels, was forced to retreat (I was 1500 short for a bribe) :smile20: After that, the game transitioned into the late stage.

In reply to HellLighT

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9/7/2018 7:01 AM UTC #879

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this is a skill)), I intentionally put myself in a vulnerable position, only against the Angels. I did notice that my opponent had a lot of money and would likely buy his way out, so it might have been too early to reveal the Crystal Ball, but I decided to take the risk.

In reply to Dima Surmay

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Registered: 3/23/2013 5:23 PM UTC

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9/7/2018 11:35 AM UTC #880

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all three contributed to the problem. Dima hoped for the best and realized it too late, but he was the only one who actually realized it. Hell is an impenetrable tank by nature, charismatic, yes, but if something doesn't appeal to him, it's very difficult to get through to him. And Rebel contributed the most, as he had enough power here to resolve any situation, but doesn't know how to assign ODDs (and therefore doesn't like it, and puts it off until later, hoping it will somehow resolve itself). 3/3, bingo.
This is exactly what I meant when I wrote

Al Feyn

the community is not ready for an open discussion of this topic, so everything is in private messages.

It's too early to discuss ODDs as a means of implementing tournament deadlines when (almost) everyone is ready to personally participate in disrupting them in one way or another, and primarily the tournament organizers themselves.

https://www.twitch.tv/grando__

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9/7/2018 5:43 PM UTC #881

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Another Tim-style poem.
The discussion wasn't about Odd at all. Neither participant put in enough effort for him.
The conversation was only about the possibility of resolving the situation without technical pauses for the players. Since both showed elementary negligence. Only Dima still had hope of making it, and he received that chance. Since Hell didn't show any activity at all, the fact that Odd happened was a surprise to him. And after another round of dragging things out, he chose the standard approach, even taking into account how the participants regularly suggest playing in the corresponding branch, and suddenly there are problems. So, leave this tournament if seasonal play is a higher priority. Something has to be sacrificed. There are enough tournaments. And any decision of mine that allows staying in the lineup should be readily accepted.

In reply to Dima Surmay

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9/7/2018 6:39 PM UTC #882

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Dima Surmay

Rebellious added the time, but didn't assign an ODD.

I'm very familiar with this situation. That's why I gave you the opportunity to prove yourselves. I would have asked about it in a day or two; there's no need to delay.

I don't fully understand what happens next. Can you provide more details?

On Monday, we need reports on all games.

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9/7/2018 7:30 PM UTC #883

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rebellious

I'm very familiar with the situation. That's why I gave you the opportunity to prove yourselves. I would have asked in a day or two, no need to delay.

I have no complaints, but I still asked after 3 days, and you didn't set a date.

rebellious

On Monday, I need reports on all games.

Okay, we agreed to play until we win on Sunday.

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9/8/2018 7:31 AM UTC #884

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Al Feyn

Dima hoped for the best and realized it too late, but he was the only one who actually realized it.

What else could Dima do? Could he just not message on ICQ and behave modestly, trying to resolve the situation with minimal losses, without bothering anyone? It wasn't possible to come to an agreement with the opponent – he asked for an ODD (one-day delay).
Not everyone can do what you do. But remember this: after you persistently asked to finish the game, you were called "brain-bomb," "curator with a sick head," and banned on the same ICQ when you were just defending your rights and your personal time.
So, Dima would have ended up in this situation anyway. Moreover, this has already happened for the second time in this tournament; the first time was right after the group stage.

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9/8/2018 5:14 PM UTC #885

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I’ll reiterate – I outlined my view of the situation regarding odd as a starting point and an invitation for anyone who wants to discuss any unclear points about odd with me in a private message, not in this thread. The three cases mentioned slightly above, concerning me personally, did not relate to assigning additional games or to situations where “I persistently asked to finish a game” (which Alaud himself has already acknowledged in a private message at this point). I don’t want to correct the off-topic discussion above because I don’t want to give anyone a reason to accuse me of some kind of “settling scores.” I adhere to the view that, as in the AK, if a specific moderator is involved, then, as much as possible, let the moderator make the decisions. But any continuation, if it is somehow related to me, I will delete. Once again, I am ready to discuss this topic in a private message, and that is what I meant.

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In reply to Dima Surmay

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9/9/2018 11:40 PM UTC #886

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I got an 8x12 roll, and a couple of Necromancers appeared, one of them with Tantrum, and the computer had Galtaran and Moon spells glowing:rolleyes:. The difference in stats was good, so I started playing. My opponent had a one-sided advantage, but decided not to pursue it, which left him far behind in tempo. Thanks for the game.

HellLighT

Faction Инферно / Inferno

Start Hero Октавия / Octavia

Main Hero Тант / Thant

Победа / Def

Dima Surmay

Faction Башня / Tower

Start Hero Сольмир / Solmyr

Main Hero Эйслинн / Aislinn

Map Template: 8xm12a
Game Length: 137 days
Game Date: 9/9/2018
Reported: 9/9/2018 11:40 PM

HellLighT 1842 → 1862 +20 ↑

Dima Surmay 1984 → 1964 -20 ↓

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 9/10/2018 7:34 AM

In reply to HellLighT

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9/10/2018 7:34 AM UTC #887

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HellLighT

Got an 8x12 map, a couple of Necropolis heroes showed up, one of them had a Tantrum, and the computer had Galtaran and Moon spells glowing:rolleyes:. The map was decent, so I started playing. My opponent had a one-way path, but decided not to go that way, which put him far behind in tempo. Thanks for the game.

Third game.
Thanks for the game.

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9/10/2018 8:21 AM UTC #888

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The second finalist of the tournament will be determined in the match between HellLighT and De_Luxe. :smile13: :smile13: Now is the time to offer suggestions, additions, and criticism – both harsh and lighthearted – regarding the formula, templates, organization, and everything else that may be relevant to the tournament.

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9/10/2018 8:59 AM UTC #889

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rebellious

The second finalist of the tournament will be determined in the match between HellLighT and De_Luxe
:smile13: :smile13:

Now is the time to offer suggestions, additions, and criticism – both harsh and lighthearted – regarding the formula, templates, organization, and everything else that may be relevant to the tournament.

A suggestion for the next tournament is to return to the scheme with a set of templates. Bargaining for a castle and color without knowing which template will be played is very strange.

"There's no need to execute me,sir Davos . I'll be dead before dawn."
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