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"only XL-5"




Past Tournament Winners:

only XL ✔ AlexTheGreat
only XL-2 ✔ Maretti
only XL-3 ✔ Gomunguls
only XL-4 ✔ Dave_HUN
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I. Rules and Templates.

1. Game Version. The tournament will be held on version SoD 3.2(4.0) + HD mod of the latest current version + HW_rulez 1.38 (when a new actual patch is released, this rule must be changed).
2. The main innovation! All XL templates used in the tournament (five): 8mm6a,8хм12а, 6LM10a, 8xm8a(8xm8b), Spider.
will be placed in one file-template rmg.txt. Players use this file when generating the map, which includes all XL templates without template labeling (it won't be visible when viewing game information).
In the game it will look like this:

Download and unzip the zip archive (at the bottom of the topic) to the root folder with the game (8xm8b was used instead of 8xm8a).

3. Castle selection: random pair + trade.
The host generates a pair of random castles using a special button. Immediately after generation, each player can request a regeneration once for 500 coins as compensation to the opponent. If at least one castle is repeated during regeneration, that same player may (but is not obligated) request a free regeneration until a new pair of castles appears.
4. After trading for a castle, there is a trade for color. To speed up the negotiation process, the red color starts the bidding in the table.
5. The total number of restarts is 3 days, i.e., 111+111+111, 111+112, 113.
6. Time limit per turn with chess timer - 21:00+08:00+01:15
7. Roads are medium and fast.
8. Guild Hall rebuilding option enabled.
9. Library in "Tower" allowed.
10. Timeframe for one game – 2 weeks (explanation for those who need it: you must adhere to the gameplay schedule – 1 game every 2 weeks; if you started a game with an opponent, then the time frame for this game is 2 weeks; if the opponent ignores or refuses to finish the game within the specified period without valid reasons, you have the right to demand that an ODD be assigned; in case of non-appearance, the opponent receives a technical defeat).

II. Regulations

Stage 1 – Groups

Two players with the highest number of points advance from the group.
In case of equal points, places are distributed according to additional indicators (in order of priority):
1. Berger coefficient.
2. Head-to-head result.
3. If it is impossible to determine which players will advance to the playoffs based on previous indicators, the players will be offered a scheme for transition games. At the moment, it is impossible to foresee all possible combinations of results. Therefore, the final scheme will be developed based on the situation that develops in the groups at the end of the stage.

Victory – 3 points; defeat – 0; draw – 1 point (counted at stage 211+ at the discretion of the organizers).

The group stage ends on June 6, 2018
(no saves or replays will be accepted, results will be posted based on submitted tournament reports)

Stage 2 – Olympic System

On June 21, 2018, the playoff draw will take place.

Two players who took 1st and 2nd places from the groups advance and are randomly distributed into the bracket.
Games in the playOff stage are played according to the bо3 system (3-4 weeks).

III. Organizational Issues

1. The tournament starts on March 29, 2018, registration for the tournament is open until March 26 inclusive, up to 24:00 Moscow time (March 27-28 - determination of the final regulations of the tournament, group draw) 16 groups of 7 people = 112 people
2. The tournament is official.
3. The tournament is held according to Rules for organizing, conducting and participating in online HOMM3 tournaments.
4. Tournament host – rebellious (ICQ 345870761), organizational issues and media support – YaR (ICQ 287407342).
5. Tournament judge – Dima Surmay (ICQ 263293484).
6. Organizers reserve the right to refuse participation in the tournament to a user without publicly explaining the reasons.
7. Media coverage of the tournament will be provided by player YaR – organization of mutual streaming of games and video reviews. Registration for the tournament means consent to use your streams to popularize the tournament.
8. The winner of the tournament will receive a medal under his avatar and a ticket to the FB tournament :smile20:
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Is it possible to play Best-of-3 matches in the group stage?
By agreement with the opponent and the organizer, and provided that the deadlines are met – even Best-of-99 is possible :D
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The opponent didn't have time to finish the game; he had a better army, but my stats were significantly better, and I had full control, while the opponent teleported and fled.
Thanks for the game!
Battle Report Accepted
Синий / Blue
Dima Surmay
Замок / Castle Faction Замок / Castle
Валеска / Valeska Start Hero Валеска / Valeska
Гриндан / Grindan Main Hero Гриндан / Grindan
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Chemist_HP
Красный / Red
Сопряжение / Conflux Faction Сопряжение / Conflux
Random Start Hero Random
Чарна / Charna Main Hero Чарна / Charna
Map Template
6lm10a
Game Length
145 days
Game Date
6/7/2018
Reported
6/7/2018 2:21 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Dima Surmay 1916 → 1917 +1 ↑
Chemist_HP 1457 → 1456 -1 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 6/27/2018 7:45 PM

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The draw is ready. Good luck in the games!

If anyone didn't understand, the players with group numbers were entered into the randomizer, which then assigned them. Players play according to the list: 1st against 2nd, 3rd against 4th, and so on. Then, players from the same group were excluded from the group of eight, and replaced with the next suitable player from another group of eight.
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What kind of absurd draw is this? How is it possible that 1st place in their group, Dave, meets 1st place in their group, FTS, in the first round??? And on top of that, 1st and 2nd place from the previous online HL are also facing each other :smile35:
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What kind of absurd draw is this? How is it possible that the 1st place in their group, Dave, meets the 1st place in their group, FTS, in the first round??? And on top of that, 1st and 2nd places from the previous online tournament:smile35:
Just to make life a little less sweet. )

P.S. I only have one question: why did Gomunguls ignore the tournament? Was it because of the random element?
"There's no need to execute me,sir Davos . I'll be dead before dawn."
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I've always admired the Scorpions tournament for its strict adherence to deadlines and the lack of exceptions for anyone. However, with the change of host, the situation has changed... Chemist_HP, who clearly wasn't prioritizing the games, not only wasn't disqualified but also made it to the playoffs! Here's a bit of a timeline:
April 24, 2018
Players who have played only one game and are not providing updates on their progress – TT_HNK, Montt, bubuch, zuro007, Loinz, MinasMorgul, Dorsaj, HellLighT, Nintendo, Zodmund, Chemist_HP, Georg_, CanaBeasT, Los, St_Klaus – must submit their reports by the end of the weekend, or they will also be disqualified.

Initially, everything was clear: games were being tracked, players were being monitored, and Chemist managed to submit his report before the deadline.
May 22, 2018
Some preliminary information before tomorrow's deadline – May 23.
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Group 13 – a delay due to the lack of progress from Chemist_HP; we'll take note of this.
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The highlighted players (those identified as potential candidates) will be disqualified if they don't have results by the day after tomorrow.

The deadline arrives, but there are no reports, and yet there's no reaction from the host, who doesn't keep his word.
May 25, 2018
Interim results after the deadline of May 23.
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Warnings:
- to the entire group 5, except for saneok,
- to player Chemist_HP from group 13 – only two games played.
Organizational conclusions will be drawn by the end of the week.

Rebell, who has always been known for his principled and meticulous approach, doesn't disqualify Chemist (despite his earlier statements), even though there were no exceptions for anyone in the tournament before. Here's a little more of the timeline: I always contacted the players in the group immediately, and here, my message to Chemist about scheduling a game was sent on April 4, and his response came on May 18... Seeing such a mess in the tournament and having played only 4 of the required games by the deadline, I decided to wait and see what would happen. Chemist, on Saturday, May 26, posts in the forum in the "let's schedule games" thread, expressing his desire to play a season! In other words, he doesn't even consider that the tournament is ongoing and that he needs to play.

Moving on, the end of the week, as announced by the host, arrives, and there are still no reports from Chemist – and no organizational conclusions (or they exist, but they can't be made public). By the way, Chemist's report for the third game appeared only on May 31, and he didn't even confirm the report for the fourth game (which was unfinished and postponed by Dima Surmai right before the draw).
It's very sad to see this. Rebellius, who has always been against favoritism and in favor of rules that apply equally to everyone, has disappointed. I don't want to think that Dima is also involved, but his report on the unfinished game makes me think that he might be...
Sorry for the long post, but I felt that people should know about this. I have no desire to participate in future tournaments where such a farce is possible.
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Redo the draw while there's still time and no one has started playing yet. The top seeds shouldn't play against each other, otherwise it will completely discredit the group stage. It would also be desirable that players who advanced from the same group do not meet before the final.
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If anyone didn't understand, the player numbers from each group were entered into the randomizer, which then distributed them. Players are matched up in the order 1st vs. 2nd, 3rd vs. 4th, and so on. Then, players from the same group were removed from the groups of eight, and replaced with the next suitable player from another group of eight.

Since some operations were performed manually, why wasn't it possible to make the draw a little better?
But putting the finalists against each other definitely wasn't a good idea. Especially since you did it yourself! In the initial draw, FTS was number 1, and Dave was last. And as a result of your operations, with the goal of making the bracket better, you put them together.
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It will be a good opportunity to summarize the group tournament and share thoughts.
① The number of participants is smaller, and the completion rate in the groups is higher. But there wasn't such a direct correlation. In group 14, all games were unexpectedly played (after a very weak start), and some didn't even have enough games to expend their gaming energy. And in four other groups, only one game was not played. :smile20:
② The complete inertia of players in groups 5 and 12 could possibly have been prevented by reshuffling them with players from other groups :smile32: Worse, the players did not warn about their withdrawal. And against the backdrop of fierce competition in other groups, the failure in the aforementioned ones led to difficulties in determining second place. :(
LuckyF
What kind of absurd draw is this? How is it that 1st place in its group, Dave, meets 1st place in its group, FTS, in the first round??? Besides, 1st and 2nd places from the previous HL tournament:smile35:
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What is the absurdity? Too many first places? - Or maybe too few? They should have been from groups number 1 and 11.
What difference does it make to the winner?
Eliminate the competition in the bud or cry over defeat at the end of the road? And they also played against each other in other tournaments, not so long ago. Shouldn't that have been taken into account?
But you could have enhanced the tournament experience for player kamukag3e by filling the free position yourself. And then you could have noticed that there have been no preferences for 1st place in the group in the tournament for a long time. And on the other hand (a recent example), look at how Liverpool and Real reached the Champions League final.
Mizrael
... players are put on the list, Chemist manages to write the report before the deadline...
...the deadline comes, there are no reports, but there is also no reaction from the host, who does not fulfill his promise
④ The situation was monitored throughout. For example, Palach was removed, then reinstated (with the participation of other players), but then he still withdrew himself. Everyone who wanted to play or had problems with their opponent wrote to me in private. Take Darkella as an example - he joined a month later than the others, immediately played two games, and then wrote to me day and night about helping him with games with other opponents, just to play. He fought to the end. And even made it to the next round!
Regarding Chemist. He wrote to me in private about the state of his two games, with a certain result already (1-1). There was simply no way for him to complete it. He also wrote about problems with you, but did not initiate anything. And I think that this is not so important for him. And for you - it's not important at all - because not a word, not a syllable, neither in private nor on the forum - means everything is fine? You took a waiting, unconstructive position, anticipating his disqualification. But you could have requested an ODD with Chemist if there were problems, but nothing was done.
And I am not bloodthirsty, I give the opportunity to play, especially to those who show such a desire. In fact, there was no reason to do so :cool:
Even three games in the group stage can be considered a tournament minimum under certain conditions.
Mizrael
It's very sad to see this. Rebellius, who has always been against favoritism and for rules that apply equally to everyone, has disappointed...
⑤ My position has not changed. In this situation, you simply missed, overlooked, panicked, and as a result, this happened. :smile11:
You guys are already gathering... :smile05:
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It's just sad to watch a holiday where you turn out to be superfluous :-)
But here, the sadness is light.
Mizrael
I don't want to think that Dima is also involved... but I thought that people should know about this. I have no desire to play in future tournaments where such a farce is possible.
⑥ The imagination ran wild. People will find out that you missed your chance through your own fault. And now you had to spend time to make you understand this.
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There’s no need to invent things for others that don’t exist. I didn’t say anything about the draw being illegitimate, etc. There was no panic. I simply pointed out your specific words and your specific inaction, that’s all. Everyone draws their own conclusions. As for Chemik, he decided to secure passage without playing against the main competitor, having already won against the group leader, and he succeeded. It’s so easy to say that you have problems with a competitor in your group, whom you simply ignore. It’s a circus.
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Top teams shouldn't play against top teams, otherwise it completely undermines the group stage.
I didn't delve into the details of everything written in the thread, but I completely agree with this. Moreover, this isn't the first time it's happened in this tournament. I already told Tanya about this, but my arguments weren't enough. :smile32:
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