Posts from TBM - Tournaments balance mod

We wanted to make a minimum of changes so that they could be viewed quickly and it would be easy to understand what's what and how to play.

- Cerberuses: defense 3 (+1)
- Lateniks: health 28 (+2)
- Zealots of Faith: health 24 (-2)
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An excellent way to promote a mod is to bash other mods.

It's not bad; it was developed over many years with an emphasis on equal initial conditions for all factions. Yes, it's a bit specific, and playing it takes a considerable amount of time. But if you only need fun, entertainment, and laughs in strategy games, maybe you should just play tanks or Dota - it's dynamic, there are a lot of people, and it's fun :D

Now the mod resembles a sequel to TE, but only with the whims of 'we'll do everything ourselves'.

This is a very one-sided interpretation.
Let's not make unfounded and incorrect conclusions.
Right now, we're having a dialogue like this: I haven't read it, but I'm judging it.
BUT, to be fair, there is a certain bias in the assessment of TE towards its "nerdiness," "mob clearing," etc., which leads to very clear conclusions about those who use these expressions...
I hope we will communicate in a different way: like adults. Please please take this phrase correctly and don't be offended.
I hope for understanding and mutually beneficial cooperation...

Come on, let's throw feces at each other :cool:
Are you an idiot?

If you build a game around mindless grinding, you’ll end up with nothing but logistics experts and engineers, which is what currently dominates in the game.

There’s no diversity in tactics, builds, or micro-management of upgrades; you just go straight for ranged units and dominate.

This is a flawed and boring gameplay.

...because games in this style are incredibly boring, monotonous, and long.

Some people enjoy learning new games and mechanics, some enjoy perfecting their skills and coming up with ideal strategies, and some just like tapping on the screen and admiring the visual effects...

I understand your skepticism due to your conservative mindset and views on the game.

That's exactly the point – I've played TE and I know its specifics quite well. I also watch streams of TE by alex_nv from time to time, who is much more skilled than me in this discipline and is generally among the top players. So, believe me, I know what we're talking about. I understand the specifics of playing TE, what works and what doesn't; how to approach the process of choosing upgrades; how to plan logistics; where and what to focus on. But you don't understand the specifics of playing the standard version and are trying to adapt it to the TE style.

However, I agree that this argument has dragged on and is unlikely to have any effect on people with rigid thinking.

It's hard to find any diversity in tactics, builds, etc. in Heroes, even after 10 years (?). You can't really add anything fundamentally new, no matter how hard you try.

I've already written about this. Learn to read :) But this doesn't mean that it's flawed and boring.

What does this even mean? Like, 'everyone is an idiot except me.' Okay, your opinion is wrong, and everything is exactly the opposite.

That's not true. It's a superficial, shallow view. Logisticians and machine players are more common for other reasons, but I won't explain it to you, you won't understand anyway.

'everyone is an idiot except me'

You just don't understand the specifics of playing the standard game and are trying in every way to remake it in the style of TE.

And now can you spell it out for the dumb? What exactly is this specificity of playing in standard? What is its sacred value, worthy of defense and keeping the flame war going?

And the main stumbling block is that TE balance is built not with a focus on the endgame, but with a focus on breakthroughs. In standard, the culmination of the entire game is the fight between main armies, not a broken ГО in the main treasure zone.

Or maybe it's in a circular marathon around your own area, through labyrinths of poorly generated landscape?

Or in tons of clovers, bags of gold, and crowns of the all-seeing lying around like trash here and there.

But it's quite possible in the deliberate dragging out of games due to a lack of resources for buying and building.

Oh nooo. The point of a 15-minute endgame after 6-7 hours of monotonous breakthroughs. A 15-minute endgame between crippled heroes, since mister mentor goes out for a walk on the maps once every six months.

Samvan, you, Sir, have apparently already decided for yourself that your mod is wonderful a priori and you filter any constructive feedback offered in this thread through a prism of bias and mistrust, completely forgetting why you even came here in the first place.

Read the previous comments in Russian and you won't need to ask stupid questions.

Vlad, these are already complaints of the type "make the maps and mod so that I can win." Wouldn't it be better for you to learn how to win in these conditions, because there are a number of players who perfectly manage the tempo and consistently finish on 2-2/2-3, which, by the way, hints at where the root of the problem lies :)

And who is asking you to rely on a mentor? Think through the attacks based on the final build. Here you need to decide whether you take and rush with machines, logistics, chaos, etc., i.e., play a rush, or play for development. Again, the mod author can't fix the players' lack of skill :)

No, no, and once again, no. I decided that our mod shouldn't become a new TE, and I'm being forced to accept this thesis. That's why the disputes are escalating.

It's incredibly "smart" to learn how to play using urine, feces, and sticks (sorry), and then, while covered in it every time, to say: how awesome I am, how much I enjoy eating crap with both cheeks, look at me everyone (I'm not hinting at anything, Samvan (hinting)).

But this already looks like pure fanaticism.

Everything is clear about you, Samvan. I clearly pointed out what was wrong in the original. In response, I only received another bucket of crap. All your counterarguments boil down to one thing - "you are a bad player, and vanilla is awesome, accept it." I may be bad, but that doesn't mean the original game is awesome. However, I won't appear in this thread anymore. The mod author is not ready to accept any criticism. Neither soft nor harsh. I thought you couldn't fall any lower in my eyes, but you did!

Why are you all rushing in here with your amazing opinions if you're not interested in playing this mod?

Guys, I don't understand what you're arguing about. People made a mod that turns heroes into the heroes they want to play as. They found people who also want to play as those heroes.
They're not trying to force this mod on everyone else.

They're not trying to tell everyone how THEIR stuff is garbage and theirs isn't.