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Maybe it would be better to create a separate thread called "List of map reviews"?
Perhaps. Then such a thread should be pinned as important at the top of the section. Marmot
Which map will you play next, or are you already playing one?
I haven't started anything yet. But I think I'll play either Ira the Mage or Where the Beauty next. I was also looking at that Chinese map, Diablo, which was posted along with 6424 Heroes. But it looks very complicated at first glance, I want something simpler for now.
.... next will be either Ira the Mage or Where the Beauty.
Ira the Mage. An acquired taste. A third of the map is played purely on knowledge of mechanics (like 1 harpy vs 1 red dragon), and afterwards, it's about killing various stronger armies with the same minimal forces. Very much an acquired taste. It will definitely be uninteresting, difficult, and at times impassable for beginners. There is almost no army growth, as in "none at all." No "legions of creatures." You cannot sacrifice units in battles, and you must keep up the pace. I picked up a few new tricks for myself after the walkthrough. There is a full walkthrough of the map with screenshots somewhere on a Chinese forum. If you get stuck on something difficult, you can look up hints. Interesting, difficult, tedious — that's a brief description of the map. The map's author, if I'm not mistaken, spent a very long time making it (not as long as Paragon, of course :), and he himself showed how to complete it. An exceptionally corridor-style map; you can't get lost in it.
Where the Beauty. This map is definitely more interesting: it also has its own tricks, but the main thing is you choose your own army, have more options and maneuvers, and a relatively free world to conquer. A VERY fun start :) you won't get bored during the walkthrough. If I'm not mistaken, at the end of the map, you can win it with Necromancy using the Cloak of the Undead King. As for me, during the walkthrough, I overlooked/forgot about this and had to summon OVER 30000 demons :) to win the final battle (lucky that the SoD_SP mod wasn't around yet and meat was periodically generated on the map for Demonology :)
Where the Beauty... If I'm not mistaken, at the end of the map you can win it via Necromancy with the Cloak of the Undead King. However, during my walkthrough I blew it/forgot about it, so I had to summon OVER 30000 demons :) to win the final battle
I wonder, does this align with the intended author's design or is it your own "method" to complete it quickly or for some other reason? That is, is it possible to win without the "farm-fresh" demons and liches?
Interesting, does this correspond to the intended author's vision, or is it your own "method" to get through quickly or for some other reason? That is, is it possible to win without "farmed" demons and liches or not?
I am 100% sure it does not correspond to the author's vision! Without liches or demons, I think it's impossible to defeat the final boss (see the screenshots of forces below). EVEN CONSIDERING THAT OUR MAIN HERO Walmary is an armor specialist of level 57!
From memory, the author gives us the Cloak of the Undead King at the very end of the map and, possibly, a necromancer hero (I don't remember exactly if the hero is given or needs to be leveled). On the legion garrisons, you can and should use the Cloak of the Undead King to gather a proportionate number of liches to counter the final boss's liches. That is, this is a very clear indication of how to build an army against the final boss. Without liches, imho, he is unkillable. Thanks to necromancy on a couple of battles, the forces will be roughly comparable to the computer's. But I broke through those garrisons with some main hero of mine for leveling (I don't remember the exact reason). Later, when I saw the final boss and his 32.5k liches, I realized I had nothing to fight him with and would have to replay all the battles, necro the liches, and go with them. But since using the Cloak of the Undead King on author's maps I consider a rule of bad form (you might as well enter cheat codes for archangel stacks), I decided on principle not to replay the battles with the Cloak of the Undead King. Possibly influenced by AtDandy's walkthrough of Paragon in "no-save" mode, where he demon-farmed several tens of thousands of demons. I decided to use that strategy and also improve the demon-farming skill, resulting in over 32k demons. And even with them, the enemy barely died :) I'm attaching a miraculously preserved screenshot of the results of that battle, it was quite impressive back then. Appreciate the size of the enemy's forces. I also remember he had some kind of sniper's bow and a couple of other "bad" artifacts for us. Also a screenshot of our forces before the battle. Without liches or demons, 32.5k liches + the rest of the army (and without the Orb of Vulnerability) I don't even know how to kill them :) Whether with Force Field or without, 32.5k liches simply shoot your entire army to pieces. He has the Sniper's Bow, so you can't block the liches. What's important is that we don't have the Orb of Vulnerability, the liches are not blindable, and Berserk doesn't work! + the opponent has magic resistance. I found a save before the battle, I'll upload it if needed.
Perhaps I won't delve into that. Maybe reducing the liches' defense to 0 with a destructive beam and then attacking with a stack of demons with a fire shield applied would help? Or using the retaliatory fire shield of the Ifrit Sultans (if they even exist on the map). And replenishing losses with cloned Archangels. Perhaps the author has some kind of plan after all? I just checked the author's description included with the archive, but it contains almost no hints, and nothing is said about the final battle. Maybe something was mentioned in the map's events? The map's author is Hans C., who also created "The Lone Knight" and "The Uprising." I completed the first one (the report is published here), and I plan to play the second one.
The map author is Hans C., who also created "The Lone Knight" and "The Uprising". I've completed the first one (the report is published here), and I plan to play the second.
Hans C. is more likely the author of this map: http://www.maps4heroes.com/forum/opinions.php?map_id=782&game=3 Aeris, judging by the posts in the Uprising discussion, and Lknight, (and even the landscape of the Harry Potter map is interesting :) ), is a big fan of Hans C.
Perhaps I won't delve into that. Maybe it would help to reduce the Lich's defense to 0 with a destructive beam and then attack with a stack of demons with a fire shield applied? Or use the fire shield counterattack of the Ifrit Sultans (if they are even on the map). And replenish losses with cloned Archangels. Perhaps the author actually has some plan? I just checked the author's description attached to the archive, but it contains almost no clues and says nothing about the final battle. Maybe something was said about it in the map's events? The map author is Hans C., who also created "The Lone Knight" and "The Uprising." I completed the first one (the report is published here), and I plan to play the second.
You can't reduce the enemy Lich's defense to 0 because with the sniper bow, they simply shoot down our army: 32.5k damage in 2 shots kills any of our stacks (except for demons). We won't have time to reduce their defense, and we don't need to. Just attack them with demons while they are praying and support them from behind with Phoenixes so that the demons aren't attacked by everyone. The rest of the army can simply be sacrificed; the demons will finish everyone off. Losses don't matter because this is the final battle. In general, the battle is drawn out. I don't remember any hints from the author on the map; it was a year ago. As far as I remember, the map is very good and passable, but there are a couple of difficult spots: how to get through the first week, how to reach the angel castles, how to kill the hero with black dragons in the underground, as well as the water battle (I think it's against Medusa) with the Phoenix sacrifice trick and mass blindness (!), and the final battle. There are hints for all these moments on maps4heroes.com. I haven't played "The Lone Knight," but I did play "The Uprising."
Marmot
8 years ago
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Hans C. is more likely the author of this map ("Eternal Love").
Sewa, that's right, he's the author of this map; the accompanying file (which is in the original archive) states this, and it has two names (Eternal Love / Where the Beauty). There's also another campaign with the same name, created based on it. I'd also like to add that, since the map's author is Hans C., judging by "The Lone Knight," everything is very well thought out, and there should be an idea of how and what to use to defeat the final boss. So, if we're given the King's Undead Cloak, it's definitely not just for show; it's meant to be used. In "The Lone Knight," it's given late in the game, and I didn't manage to create many liches, but it needs to be given to a guard or soothsayer soon after for something.
Marlo_Stanfield
8 years ago
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As far as I understand, Where the Beauty is Aeris's remake of Hans C's map Eternal Love.
Added 4 minutes later kolotok
From memory, the author gives us the Cloak of the Undead King at the very end of the map, and possibly a Necropolis hero (I don't remember exactly if the hero is given or needs to be leveled up). On the legion garrisons, you can and should use the Cloak of the Undead King to gather a proportionate number of liches for the final boss's lich stacks. I.e., this is a very clear indication of how to build an army against the final boss. Without liches, IMO, he's unkillable.
And can this hero be placed in the Castle? In that case, you can try to kill him with Arch Devils alone. You just need to survive 24 lich shots in such a way as to keep the computer's troops inside the castle walls. And it's highly desirable for him to have Explosion.
Can this hero be placed in a Castle? If so, you can try to defeat him using only Archdevils. You just need to survive 24 shots from Liches in such a way as to keep the hero's troops within the castle walls. And it would be very desirable for him to have the "Explosion" skill.
He is already in a Castle by default, and Forts are not allowed in his Castle:smile50:
He sits in the default castle, and fortresses are prohibited in that castle:smile50:
So, essentially, it's a battle in the field.
DarkT1me
8 years ago
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Regarding the map "Where the Beauty": How do I beat it? =) On day 7, the hero Maysh arrives with almost unlimited movement points (for some reason, he teleports to me immediately instead of going to the other computer-controlled heroes) and defeats me. Meanwhile, I only have a couple of Titans and no Fortresses.
Regarding the map: Where the Beauty.
How do I beat it? =) On day 7, the hero Maysh arrives with almost infinite movement points (for some reason, he teleports to me immediately instead of to the other computer-controlled players) and defeats me. At that time, I only have a couple of Titans and no Fortresses.
Most likely, you need to buy a specialist in generating income on day 2, and he also has Chain Lightning with 99 skill points.
