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Posts from NCF – Extended list of Neutral creatures.Auto-translated
This NCF mod remains as anti-elf as it always was. More! More! More creatures. All sorts and kinds. And to hell with the lists of sworn enemies. You're on the right track, comrades. Just a little more and you'll be close to a holocaust.
What prevents you from contributing to improving this situation?!
This NCF mod remains as anti-elf as it always was. More! More! More creatures. All sorts and kinds. And to hell with the lists of sworn enemies. You're on the right track, comrades. Just a little more and you'll be close to a holocaust.
That's right! It's better to do nothing, not introduce any creatures – it's hard for the elf pedants, after all!
Download Now all Dark Elves are in NCF! If I’m not mistaken, there are now 33 of them. No attempts were made to create a new race – only neutrals. The mod contains 21 standard creatures and 12 RTF creatures (troglodytes, giants, riders, and faceless ones). Old mod remains untouched
Download Now all the Dark Elves are in NCF! If I’m not mistaken, there are now 33 of them. No attempts to create a new race – only neutrals. The mod contains 21 standard creatures and 12 RTF ones (troglodytes, giants, riders, and faceless). Old mod remains untouched.
We've been waiting for it!) But could you put everything into one file?
By the way, what is this about Albasters? Who are they anyway? And we haven't heard anything about Nightlings lately… :rolleyes:
For your information, Atlant, the creatures have already been nerfed. And I've seen more complaints than praise about it. As for the imbalance... these are neutral creatures.
psatkha
I'm really tired of talking/writing about this! Personally, I don't quite understand the position of the "whiners"; sometimes they complain that the AI is too weak, and other times they say it's too strong!
So, I decided to get to the bottom of this issue. In December 2016, a stream was held on the NCF mod; here are the results: /post/1067826/ Overall, people liked the mod, but several comments were made regarding certain creatures. The point is that during the stream, they discussed creatures from the old pack – from 2016 – and in that pack, there were indeed some flaws and balance issues. To be fair, I should note that the EWA modification also includes the old, unfinished creature pack from 2016, which explains the complaints from those who played that old version, which is integrated into EWA. Currently, the pack has been updated, and the balance has been significantly improved. In addition, new creatures have been added. The conclusion is obvious:to reduce the number of complaints, many of which are actually justified, it is necessary to update the EWA version by including the new, revised creature pack.Let's hope that the author of the compilation will return to development and make the necessary changes
Added after 8 minutes But while the author is away, we can only add the new pack manually.
I decided to get to the bottom of this issue. So, in December 2016, a stream was held for the NCF mod; here are the results: /post/1067826/ Overall, people liked the mod, but several comments were made about certain creatures. The point is that during the stream, they discussed creatures from the old pack – from 2016, and there were indeed some shortcomings and balance issues in that pack. For fairness' sake, I should note that the EWA modification also includes the old, unfinished creature pack from 2016, which explains why those who played that old version, which is integrated into EWA, had complaints. Currently, the pack has been updated, and the balance has been significantly improved. In addition, new creatures have been added. The conclusion is obvious:to reduce the number of complaints, many of which are actually justified, it is necessary to update the EWA version by including the new, revised creature pack.Let's hope that the author of the compilation will return to development and make the necessary changes
Added after 8 minutes But while the author is away, the only option is to add the new pack manually
And could you provide more details regarding the improvement of the balance? Specifically, what does "improved balance" mean – a reduction of the author's set of abilities or, as I have suggested many times, a recalculation of the main parameters not specified by the author?
Here's a more detailed explanation regarding the balance improvements.
In short, some creatures had abilities removed that significantly enhanced them. Regarding the recalculation of core stats, it's hard to say – I'm not sure what you suggested before.
In short, some creatures had abilities removed that significantly enhanced them. As for recalculating the main parameters, it's hard to say – I don't know what you suggested before.
Well, I thought so too, that they just nerfed things, but deep down, I still hoped that they would actually do a real rebalancing, but alas...
Here, take a look HERE... and in general, someone needs to take this on and do it; I can show where to get the file for rebalancing and which buttons to press later!
By the way, as far as I understand, you have no problems with free time (judging by the number and volume of your posts on this resource and in various social networks), so you can make a great contribution to the Heroes community if you channel your energy in the right direction (this is not irony)! :smile25:
however, I still had a faint hope that they actually did a real rebalancing, but alas... and in general, someone needs to take this and do it; I can show where to get the rebalancing file and which buttons to press later!
psatkha, if the authors of this mod couldn't achieve balance, then I definitely won't be able to do it. I doubt that it's even possible for one person to create a fair balance. What one person considers logical and fair, another will simply consider nonsense. However, the balance issue needs to be addressed, so I suggest bringing this up for general discussion. For example, we could create a poll on the most imbalanced creatures in this thread. Yes, it won't be fast! Because there are many creatures, but we need to start somewhere!
psatkha, if the authors of this mod couldn't achieve balance, then I definitely won't be able to do it. I doubt that it's even possible for one person to create a fair balance. What one person considers logical and fair, another might consider utter nonsense. However, the balance issue needs to be addressed, so I suggest we bring this up for general discussion. For example, we could hold a vote on the most imbalanced creatures in this thread. Yes, it won't be quick! Because there are many creatures, but we need to start somewhere!
Wow, did you even click on the link from my previous post?!
P.S. What's with this unhealthy obsession with voting?!
Yes, I followed that link about six months ago. However, I have nothing to add to what I said:
due to subjective perception, one person will not be able to achieve balance. What one person considers logical and fair, another will simply consider nonsense.
Therefore, it is necessary to conduct, at least, polls. The more people participate in the discussion, the higher the probability of obtaining a fair balance.
Atlant believes that there is no subjective perception; there is a program that automatically corrects everything. With this attitude, you won't be able to have a constructive conversation...
psatkha
