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"Gather tons of meat" is relevant for any version. The only difference is that SoD most often assumes 3-4 types of striking stacks (vivs, angels, skeletons +/- demons), which is insanely boring. But HotA has 7+, and accordingly, has a huge advantage in the variety of strategies.

I agree that it can be a bit boring... but in SoD you often search for these hives/cons, while in HotA you don't even need to look for them! Any map is literally strewn with all sorts of marshmallows/giants/and those same hives/cons! And the entire variety of strategies consists of gathering everything you see with all heroes in a chain, and pumping your morale/luck to the maximum; after that, it's just a matter of who gathered more. In other words, there is a clear simplification of the game, as in BT. That's how I see it for now.

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And about the fees. Maybe the orgs should also be interested at least by having their work somehow compensated in monetary equivalent? You can't get far on raw enthusiasm alone... ))

I was thinking about that today as well

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New versions appear in Heroes 3, gain popularity, and then either wither away or lose their former glory. History knows examples. But the classic maintains its position in the world (of course, there are periodic imbalances in separate regions). As a rule, new versions live as long as the developers support the game and there is a link with the Community. Plus, while the version of the game is still being developed and changed, you constantly have to keep track of innovations and adapt your play every time. Some find this interesting, while others have neither the time nor the desire.

Classic—it was, is, and will be the only globally recognized official version of the game by the developers (at least that's how it seems at the moment). Therefore, organizing some huge international tournament (even inter-portal) is much more likely on classic. Besides everything else, we know different versions of rules in the world (as well as games without rules) for our favorite game—which also divides opinions on this matter.

The most "amusing" part begins when, during the height of another tournament, the developers release a new version or update that is completely incompatible with old versions or saves!! And half the people manage to Download it... and they (the devs) couldn't care less about your (our) tournaments

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I'm not even talking about balance changes or new objects that you have to adapt to on the fly, and again, nobody asked your opinion about it. The audience is supposedly different... only a person with very little self-respect could accept this and continue praising this product. NNL (nothing personal) I just DISAGREE with such a state of affairs. Why do I continue playing it? I don't know myself; every time I hesitate and hesitate, but the gamer in me wins :D ("The mice cried, they pricked themselves, but they continued to eat the cactus") (c)


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Well, if it's a league, there are home games and away games, meaning you play against SOD/HotA. When playing away, the opponent chooses the version; that would be fair. Both HotA players and SOD players would learn both versions. You could also make paid and free leagues as an option; whichever is less popular would eventually die out. To avoid rescheduling games and other issues, have a specific schedule, for example, a week (or two) to play against a specific opponent. Odd by default is Saturday-Sunday at 2:00 PM; if you don't show up, you lose points and wait for the next game week (allow players to play rounds earlier by mutual agreement). If a player misses more than 3 games, they are disqualified and moved to the lowest league, for example, with -30 points. Yes, you can come up with all sorts of things))).
Everyone played SOD, but many didn't even install HotA, and it would turn out that playing away is like playing soccer on sand; some trained to play that way, while others only saw how it is to run on sand, and most likely the game will be lost.
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Without real sponsorship, these are just pipe dreams that will end after the third round.
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SOD was played by everyone, but many didn't even install HOTU, and as a result, playing away is like playing soccer on sand. There are those who trained to play that way, and there are those who only saw how it is to run on sand, and most likely the game will be lost.
As practice has shown, skill cannot be ignored; successful players play very well in both SOD and HOTU. There are opportunities, but it's up to the organizer. (I personally don't play HOTU much, and I've never played for the Cove, but the general concept is clear).
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In my opinion, the league should be organized with mandatory contributions from participants (a portion of the fund goes to the organizer/coordinator of the league), and another portion goes to the top three winners. Those who simply drop out should be excluded, and technical defeats should be awarded to their opponents, with the technical points being equal to the actual points. Something like that.
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I agree that it can be a bit boring sometimes... but in SoD, you often search for these hives/cons, while in HotA, you don't even need to look for them!
Sorry, but you're wrong here. Often, it's easier to assemble a viable starting army in SoD, even considering the significant difference in the power of the initial forces.
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Anarchy isn't played in HotA, so I'm for SoD :D

As for the subject, the idea is too utopian. If someone can organize it, honor and praise to them, but there are too many problems and pitfalls.
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Sorry, but you're wrong here. It's often easier to assemble a working stack in SoD, even despite the significant difference in the power of the starting army.

I wasn't talking about one working (strike) stack, for example, fifty ducks, but about quantity, about kilotons of different high-level meat from objects. And in the end, there will be more strike stacks.

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Anarchy isn't playable in HotA, so I'm for SoD :D

No wonder, the Grail in Conflux got nerfed in HotA ;)


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In the current situation, a long tournament format turns into a game of "who will drop out later."

If there's a desire to establish some kind of tournament hierarchy, it would be better to hold an annual All-Stars event, where the winners of tournaments from the past year are invited.
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Cobra wrote "simplifying the game, like in VT" or am I dreaming? VT is a simplified SoD??? Ueeeeeeeeeee...
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If there's a desire to establish some kind of tournament hierarchy, it would be better to hold an annual AllStars tournament, where the winners of tournaments from the past year are invited.
Such a tournament has been held for a long time, it's just called FB.
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Such a tournament has been held for a long time, but it's called FB.
FB doesn't quite fit this description. A couple of years ago, "Champions League" was held according to this scheme by The_, but then the author disappeared, and there was no continuation.
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In the current situation, a long group stage is a game of "who will drop out later."

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Yes, I agree. I really like the idea of the league, but I don't think it's feasible in practice. I really hope I'm wrong.
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Yes, I agree. I really like the idea of the league, but I don't think it's feasible in practice. I really hope I'm wrong.

I think it's easy to create a league from hardcore players, because that's their thing, not the average Heroes player.
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Could you add a poll with the question "Will you play?" and three options: SoD, SoD/HotA, HotA?
Мой любимьій размер - тройка. Будь то конса, утопа или сиськи
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