How can we save the "Heroes" theme? — The unified universe of Might and Magic.

Zybr

7/25/2007 10:16 AM UTC

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Night;104038

Guys, while it's all good that you care about the forum's fate, aren't you afraid that at some point, many users will simply abandon the portal because of its excessive seriousness and restrictions? After all, the people mentioned in the first post of this thread probably didn't leave because the forum started having more casual discussions...

Why go so deep into it?!
Here's an example: I'm on the Heroes IV forum, and most of the people there are those who like that game. There are some discussions, sometimes there's some off-topic stuff, but then someone comes along and writes that Heroes IV is :smile18:, and that's it, without any arguments, just because they feel like it. Then another user posts something similar, and so on. Who among the game's fans would like that?! And these posts just sit there, annoying everyone. Is that normal?! Or, there's a more or less constructive discussion about a topic, and then some "smart guy" suddenly wants to chime in, but he writes either a short or useless post in the middle of the discussion. Is that good?! That's what active moderators are needed for! Excessive seriousness and harshness aren't necessary, but no one is talking about that, but you also can't just ignore it, otherwise no one will want to write anything, and there will only be stupid and useless posts. We're not children who just saw a new toy!! And we shouldn't be. You can be silly and joke around once in a while, and it's better to do it in the chat. But it shouldn't become a habit....

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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Night

7/25/2007 10:38 AM UTC

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ZYbr;104044

Why go so deep into it?!
Here's an example: I'm on the forum for the 4th installment, and most people there are those who like this part. There are some discussions, sometimes there's some off-topic stuff, but then someone comes in and writes that the 4th installment:smile18: is bad, and that's it, without any arguments, just because they feel like it. Then another user posts something similar, and so on. Who among the game's fans would like that?! And these posts just sit there, annoying everyone. Is that normal?! Or, there's a more or less constructive discussion about some topic, and then some "smart guy" suddenly wants to write something too, but he writes either a short or useless post in the middle of the discussion. Is that good?! That's what active moderators are needed for! Excessive seriousness and harshness are not needed, but no one is writing about that, but you also shouldn't turn a blind eye, otherwise no one will want to write anymore, and there will only be stupid and useless posts. We're not children who have just seen a new toy!! And we shouldn't act like that. Once in a while, you can be silly, joke around, and it's better to do it in the chat. But it shouldn't become a habit....

You misunderstood me, or you just quoted me by accident. We weren't even talking about moderators. The issue of moderators is relevant now for one reason: many people have gone on vacation or somewhere else. There's no need to panic! Everything will fall into place; we just need to give it a little nudge, not push it...

Ann

7/26/2007 8:43 PM UTC

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I think we should leave everything as it is... some people just can't handle it... they want to feel important, I guess... they overdo things themselves... and then they get offended... like that well-known Tigrenok... everyone wants something that they don't even know or understand themselves...
I can say one thing: everything will resolve itself... we just need to wait.

сначала надо разобраться, а потом критику наводить

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Мавр

7/30/2007 3:44 PM UTC

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You’ll kill the forum with your inquisition, you really will… :smile34:

Без пафоса и найденых через поисковик цитат: Ухахахахаха...:smile40:

Андрей

7/30/2007 6:52 PM UTC

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Personally, I don't see any problem!! There isn't one!! To maintain the heroic theme, we need content for it. But there is no content!! How long can we discuss Necromancers and Wizards??!! You are all [moderator removed], if you see a problem in the absence (or small number) of posts about the game.

From the moderator: Don't insult anyone!

ДУРАКОВ ОЧЕНЬ МАЛО, НО ОНИ РАССТАВЛЕНЫ ТАК ГРАМОТНО, ЧТО ВСТРЕЧАЮТСЯ НА КАЖДОМ ШАГУ.
Прошу прощения у Arandor-а. Я слишком резко отреагировал. Просто очень люблю спорт. Извини...[/SIZE]

xSna1peRx

7/31/2007 1:05 PM UTC

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Well, excessive off-topic posts on this forum are indeed unnecessary; I suggest shortening all threads with off-topic content, BUT leaving the right to engage in off-topic conversations in the chat, as it doesn't bother anyone there and doesn't clutter the forum unnecessarily.

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Слоныш

7/31/2007 11:22 PM UTC

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xSna1peRx;104754

Well, excessive off-topic posts on this forum are unnecessary. I suggest shortening all threads with off-topic content, BUT leaving the right to engage in off-topic discussions in the chat, as it doesn't bother anyone there and doesn't clutter the forum unnecessarily.

It feels like you haven't read the "off-topic" section... It's not just nonsense, but also discussions about society, art, politics, and more (ugh!)...
In general, they should rename the section, as "OFF-TOPIC" sounds rather crude... Off-topic is nonsense, not out-of-theme conversations! Out-of-theme conversations are just that - out-of-theme.:mad:

Machete

8/1/2007 9:36 AM UTC

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Sorry for writing from a different profile, this is Tengro.
The main problem with the forum is the chat, as strange as it may sound.
Instead of discussing something on the forum pages, forum members hang out in the chat, chat aimlessly, and joke around.
Verdict: remove the chat completely! And introduce stricter rules.
Sincerely, Tengro.

I've got a hole in my pocket!
© Ринго Старр

Saruman

8/1/2007 9:47 AM UTC

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I wouldn't say there's a problem at all. We need to review the moderation team – that's it. Everyone agrees with this, and that's the decision. Further discussion is pointless; I suggest closing the thread. P.S. I sent you a PM on the RPG Zone.

Machete

8/2/2007 10:57 AM UTC

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Personally, I think removing the chat is not the best idea. The forum will certainly get rid of some of the spam, but at a significant cost in terms of users. And besides, not all chat is spam. It also has its good sides.

I've got a hole in my pocket!
© Ринго Старр

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LeSHiJ-MaX

8/2/2007 11:44 AM UTC

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Machete;104886

Pardon me for writing from a different profile, this is Tengro
The whole trouble with the forum is the chat, as strange as that may seem.
Instead of discussing things on the forum pages, the forum members sit in the chat, flood it and joke around.
Verdict — get rid of the chat for good! And introduce stricter rules.
Respectfully, Tengro.That's exactly the point, dear Tengro, that if they remove the Chat, the People will flock to the forum just to chatter. Imagine how many messages go through the chat in a day, and now throw 1/20 of them into the forum. What WILL happen there. Just a pile of windows labeled OFFTOP
HAVE MERCY ON THE MODERATORS
PS And where will all this lead?

С самого начала позаботься о своем месте в жизни, чтобы не уподобиться маятнику. /Херберт. Ф./
Клан: "Смертельный Альянс" - "Mortal Alliance"

Night

8/2/2007 11:49 AM UTC

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One time you complain about the huge amount of off-topic posts, and the next time you complain about its lack... Bravo, Forum, we've reached a dead end.:smile12:

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Alex_R

8/2/2007 12:09 PM UTC

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Night;105102

You complain about the huge amount of off-topic posts, then you complain about its lack... Bravo, Forum, we've reached a dead end.:smile12:

THAT'S IT! QUIET!!! Nothing like that is happening... the forum is thriving!:D

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Machete

8/2/2007 2:30 PM UTC

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LeSHiJ-MaX;105101

That's exactly the point, dear Tengro. If they remove the chat, people will flock to the forum to chat. Imagine how many messages go through the chat in a day, and now imagine 1/20 of them being posted on the forum. What will happen there? Just a bunch of windows with the inscription "OFFTOPIC."
PLEASE HAVE MERCY ON THE MODERATORS
P.S. And what will all this lead to?

I agree! The chat also bears some responsibility – it attracts off-topic conversations. Leshiy Max is right.

Tengro

8/6/2007 8:48 AM UTC

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That’s exactly the point, dear Tengro: if you remove the chat, people will flock to the forum to chat. Imagine how many messages go through the chat in a day, and now take 1/20 of them and put them in the forum. What will happen there? Just a bunch of windows with the inscription OFF-TOPIC.
HAVE MERCY ON THE MODERATORS.
P.S. And what will all this lead to?

Hmm... there won't be a bunch. There will be one topic... Just one. And it's easier to moderate one topic:)
And, by the way, didn't we live without a chat before? But now the chat is driving everything to the point of absurdity... 1 post on the forum and 1900 in the chat – is that normal?
And what does that mean? It means that the forum is just an appendage, an appendix, and the chat – yes, the chat is a cult, the main thing, and everything else!
Isn't that nonsense? IMHO – it is.
So...
But – forget about the chat. Everyone will defend it anyway. Introduce Dogmas. And that's it. And the flood will quietly die out.
And to avoid suspicion, I will be the first to relinquish my powers.

"Мы не герои. Мы сильны. Мы упрямы. Мы стараемся соблюдать условия контракта. Но мы не умираем за проигравших." Костоправ

"Мы не поклонники честной игры, если ее можно избежать. Девиз Отряда – максимальная эффективность при минимальном риске." Костоправ

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