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Is Conflux a broken castle?

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Offline BotINKi
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Everything is explained clearly; it's just that due to the sudden warming, Ley has developed a habit of picking out individual phrases and not really paying attention to what is written. :)
apparently, I also overheated, that's why I made a correction:)
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the presence of cheating heroes!!!
:eek: :eek: what, are all the heroes cheaters???:eek: :eek:
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Of course, you can win, but if heroes from other factions are banned, why not ban the Conflux as well!?
there, it's just the heroes... but here, you want to ban the entire Conflux...
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Everything has been explained clearly; it's just that due to the sudden warming, Ley has developed a habit of picking out individual phrases and not really delving into what was written :)
The Conflux is considered cheesy not only because of what you mentioned... after all, there is some advantage in rapid development.. cheap rank 7 buildings... the quantity and strength of individual ranks... the presence of Cheesy heroes!!!
Of course it's possible to win, but if heroes from other castles are banned, why not ban the Conflux too!?

Generally, keep your opinion about "sudden warming" to yourself...
I simply didn't notice the correction :(, and the meaning of BotINKi's words at the beginning was exactly such that I became interested in whether he had made a mistake...
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Guys, even the updated fakes are the weakest units in the game. They have one use: to block enemy archers for a few turns or to chase a slow zombie around the battlefield, exposing it to archers and ballistas. As for phoenixes, I haven't seen more bot-like creatures. They are only twice as strong as thunderbirds, but their growth rate is higher, and they are much cheaper. By the time four phoenixes appear in a Conflux castle, there are already more than twenty thunderbirds in a Stronghold castle. Do you think 20 thunderbirds will lose even one bird on their first turn against four phoenixes? :) And if the thunderbirds also deal lightning damage? =)
And you still have to survive until you reach the Grail and the University!
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Guys, even the updated "Fakes" are the weakest units in the game. They have one use: to block enemy archers for a few turns or to chase a slow zombie around the battlefield, exposing it to archers and ballistas.
As for Phoenixes, I haven't seen more bot-like creatures. They are only twice as strong as Thunderbirds, but their growth rate is 6, which is higher, and they are much cheaper. By the time four Phoenixes are left in the Conflux castle, there are already more than twenty Thunderbirds in the Citadel castle. Do you think 20 Thunderbirds will lose even one bird in their first turn against four Phoenixes? :) And what if the Thunderbirds also deal lightning damage? =)
And you still have to survive until the Grail and the University!

Yes, dude, your love for the Barbarians is evident not only in your "face." You can defeat almost the entire first level with "Fakes," and even the second level quite well...
But you are also wrong about Phoenixes: of course, under different circumstances (defense, artifacts, magic, and much more), but if we talk about their actual parameters, then a Phoenix will definitely take down a couple of your beloved birds from the Barbarian castle. "And what if the Thunderbirds also deal lightning damage?" - well, let's see... And what if the Phoenixes are resurrected?
Their growth rate fully justifies their strength...
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Guys, even the updated Fakes are the weakest units in the game. They have only one use: to block enemy archers for a few turns or to chase a slow zombie around the battlefield, exposing it to archers and ballistas.
As for Phoenixes, I haven't seen more bot-like creatures. They are only twice as strong as Thunderbirds, but their growth is 6, which is higher, and they are much cheaper. By the time four Phoenixes are left in the Conflux castle, there are already more than twenty Thunderbirds in the Citadel castle. Do you think 20 Thunderbirds will lose even one bird in their first turn against four Phoenixes? :) And what if they also deal lightning damage for free? =)
And you still have to survive until the Grail and the University!
That's right, Pirren, that's how it is with the Conflux: :smile18: Conflux.
But honestly, you're exaggerating about the one-to-two ratio, chasing zombies around the map, and blocking archers. By the eighth day, there can be five birds, against nine (maximum) Thunderbirds.

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The presence of cheating heroes!
Of course, you can win, but if heroes from other castles are banned, why not ban the Conflux too!?
Isn't this Grindan, or maybe Luna:D
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How do you like the second-level unit from this Castle? It has 25 health points, and if you upgrade them... it will hurt.
I think that among the second-level units, the Elementalists are the strongest.
In my opinion, once I found a hero from this Castle in the tavern and decided to take him for an experiment. The experiment was successful: 25 Fae + 6 Elementalists + a magic archer (with magic skill 4 or 5 at that time... I don't remember) easily defeated 150 upgraded Barbarian level 1 units... that's what a middle-tier Castle can do.

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And if you upgrade both of them... your 25 skeletons will fall, but the number of Fae will remain at 50.
Upgraded Fae are unmatched among the first-level units; the only thing that can destroy them is gold (Gremlins, level 1 Tower, where the Titans are), and even then, I doubt it... you can just experiment with that.
Well, I agree that the second-level unit is strong.
But the rest leave much to be desired.

By the way, in a battle of 100 vs. 100, the Energy Elementalists lose to Cerberuses!!! Which are level 3!!
You can check it yourself.
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Conflux – a cheater castle? No way... There are no cheater castles; there are just good and bad players. If we consider Conflux as a castle, then the good magic of this castle is compensated by its weak units. I don't see anything strong in the fairies – they die like flies. Storm elementals – yes, they are the strongest creatures of level 2, but they only rule at the beginning of the game, and besides, they are vulnerable to lightning, which can help a lot. For example, archers from the Castle can perform just as well, in my opinion. Firebirds and Phoenixes rely on quantity and speed; this is basically a strong point of the Conflux, but there are also effective ways to fight them. After all, in terms of quality, they are inferior to all creatures of level 7. And they can also be taken down with magic... Although the Grail's effect is the best in this castle, I doubt that it is found very often. The University is a good building, but again, it doesn't give any super advantages. But I didn't understand anything about the cheater heroes at all; why are they cheater heroes? For me, the heroes of the Necropolis with the Necromancy specialization are much more cheater-like. Therefore, from everything said above, it follows that the Conflux is not a cheater castle at all. I repeat, there are good and bad players, and in most cases, the outcome will depend on the level of skill, the correct tactics, etc.
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Fakes are very effective at the beginning because there are many of them, and they attack without taking damage. Archers are weak because they don't deal damage if they haven't been upgraded. But the Psionicists are good – they are powerful units. Phoenixes aren't impressive, but there are many of them, and they are fast. It's a disadvantage that you need to build everything. Overall, the city is very good, and it's especially effective against Necropolis.
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I don't know why everyone says that the Castle faction is overpowered. Maybe I'm just not playing well and don't understand... Oh well... In my opinion, their units are a bit expensive at the beginning. The 7th level unit is weak. However, the Psionicists are really powerful, and the 5th level unit is also good – a tanky unit. I like the 4th level unit only because it's fire-based. The Fairies are good at the beginning, I admit. The 2nd and 3rd levels are good as starting units, like archers, but then they become quite weak.
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With the right tactics, this castle is very good.
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I agree that Conflux is an overpowered castle. And if you learn to play it well, it becomes one of the strongest castles. The main thing is to master the Axiom and use the strengths of the creatures. That's all there is to it, and each creature has plenty of strengths. The only problem is that they almost have no opportunity to maneuver tactically during combat, although maybe that's for the best – there's no need to look for the best option for each turn.
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And what makes the creatures of this Castle so incredibly powerful that no one can stand against them? Maybe you can explain!!!!
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Regarding the Conflux, I'd like to point out a few things:
1) In the first week, 50 butterflies can endlessly break through a line of units with a speed of 4-5, of course, without shooting.
2) The second-level unit has stats similar to the fourth-level unit from other castles, and together with the butterflies, they can simply conquer the entire map.
3) Phoenixes can be built easily in the second or third week, and with a speed of 21, they can do whatever they want with all creatures, not to mention their fire resistance + hero. These are just the most basic overpowered aspects of the Conflux. In my opinion, this castle is OP by 100%!
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And I'm on the first week, building Rock Golems and Ogres in my Stronghold, and it's already week 3, and all my units are level 50? How is that possible when they start at 200%?
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So, you're a noob, and you should read everything carefully! If you're building a level 7 structure at 200% efficiency, it's either an easy map or you're just a noob! I play on maps where all my money in the first week is 2-3 treasure chests and 2-3 resource piles, not 2 treasure chests a day, and not always enough stone and wood mines to build structures and creatures, not to mention 10 crystals!
Let's play a 1v1 Citadel mirror match, and I'll show you what's what!
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