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While playing, I overheard opponents saying that the Conflux castle is overpowered and that restrictions are being introduced on its upgrades (levels 1, 6, and 7). QUESTION: Why? And also... please provide a clear definition of what constitutes cheating!
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While playing, I heard from opponents that the Conflux castle is overpowered and that restrictions are being introduced on its upgrades (levels 1, 6, and 7). QUESTION: Why?
And also... please provide a clear definition of what constitutes cheating!
Fairies - their growth rate is higher than that of Necropolis skeletons, they fly across the entire battlefield and attack without retaliation. Psychic Elementals - they attack multiple units at once without retaliation and also have immunity to mind control magic. Phoenixes - growth rate for level 7 is 4 creatures, which is 2 more than the rest, fire breath, immunity to fire magic, and resurrection.
I don't think I missed anything.
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Fairies – their growth rate is higher than that of Necropolis skeletons; they fly across the entire battlefield and attack without retaliation. Psychic Elementals – they attack several units at once without retaliation and are also immune to mind control magic. Phoenixes – their growth rate for level 7 is 4 creatures, which is 2 more than the others; they have fire breath, immunity to fire magic, and can be resurrected.
I don't think I missed anything.

Fortunately, I know the characteristics... 4 Phoenixes – but they have few hit points and are easy to destroy...
I think they created this castle to add variety to the game! What's the point of introducing another castle that is almost the same as the 9th one? It wouldn't be interesting, but the Conflux added some novelty...
P.S. Alex Ghost, this is not a reason to call the castle "cheesy"! If it was created this way, it means that this option was also considered, and the balance was taken into account.

That's why it's "CHEESY," and what is "CHEESY" anyway?
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So, that's why it's considered CHEATING, and what exactly is CHEATING?
Then I don't know, but if they call it that, there must be a reason.
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If you build a Grail in the Conflux, all spells will become available. Heroes from this Castle have one of the following primary skills: Air, Earth, Fire, or Water. And perhaps that's why it's called overpowered.
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If you build a Grail in the Conflux, all spells will become available. Heroes from this Castle have one of the following primary skills: Air, Earth, Fire, or Water. And perhaps that's why it's called overpowered.

Jae, I don't know... It's an interesting thought, but IMHO, it doesn't contain a particularly strong argument about it being overpowered...
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Then I don’t know.
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In my opinion, cheating involves entering codes or using special programs that disrupt the gameplay... I don't see anything like that happening with Conflux.

P.S. Alex Ghost and "1", thank you for your opinion!
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While playing, I heard from opponents that the Conflux castle is overpowered and that restrictions are being introduced on its upgrades (levels 1, 6, and 7). QUESTION: Why?
And also... please provide a clear definition of what constitutes cheating!

This castle is called overpowered because you can build the Grail and obtain all the spells in the game: "Portal," "Fly," and "Dimension Door" make the game very fast, taking only 2-3 turns.
In reality, the castle is not as overpowered as your opponents claim, because:

Cheating is the use of any codes or programs that alter the game's structure during a clean playthrough, as well as the use
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No – it’s just that Conflux is disproportionately strong. It’s overpowered, even… Immune to many spells. Grail. Phoenixes and fairies. These are the main reasons… And it’s considered “cheesy” because it’s imbalanced.
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This Castle is often called "cheesy" because you can build the Grail and gain access to absolutely all spells in the game: "Portal," "Flight," and "Dimension Door" make the game winnable in just 2-3 turns.
In reality, this Castle isn't as overpowered as your opponents claim, because:

Cheating is when a player uses any codes or programs that alter the game's structure, or uses forbidden creatures, in a playthrough.

Sincerely, VDV_forever

By the time you build this Grail, you might already have lost... and the Grail in the Tower also gives a significant advantage, but for some reason, it's not considered bad. By the way, it's not that difficult to counter – either build the Grail yourself or acquire the same spells.
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No – it's just that the Conflux is disproportionately strong. It's almost an overpowered faction... Immunity to many spells. The Grail. Phoenixes and fairies. These are the main reasons... And "cheesy" means imbalanced.

You're not the first to say that the Conflux is a strong Castle. I think it's not that strong, but rather quite mediocre. Immunity to spells? Only psychic creatures are completely immune; other types are still very vulnerable to other kinds of spells. Fairies and Phoenixes aren't that strong either...

Thank you for the explanation!
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Something isn't clear. Is the Conflux really the strongest castle in Heroes? I've always considered it the weakest; almost all of its units are inferior to any units of the same level, and I've checked it myself. The immunity to magic is definitely a plus, which might be why it's considered strong. But the unit growth rate definitely doesn't compensate for its weaknesses.
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I am also surprised by this news. I always thought that Conflux was an interesting, but somewhat weak, Castle. It can't compete with Haven or Dungeon.
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I am also surprised by such news. I always considered the Conflux an interesting, but somewhat weak castle. It cannot compete with humans or warlocks.

I think you are confusing online and offline...

In online, the Conflux is a fast-developing castle, which creates an imbalance AT THE START of the game. The growth of +4 phoenixes is very important in the beginning... Later, as the game progresses, this is neutralized. Otherwise — fast, untouchable butterflies, the strongest second-tier ranged units in their class, fire immunity, the fastest accelerating heroes (Moner and Pasis)... Plus four phoenixes (or rather five, since 20% are reborn) — all of this provides a very significant advantage.

In offline, everything is much simpler.
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In online play, Conflux is a fast-developing castle, which creates an imbalance at the START of the game. The +4 Phoenix increase is very important at the beginning... Later, as the game progresses, this is offset. But overall - fast, unpunished Phoenixes, the strongest ranged units of their class at level 2, fire immunity, the fastest heroes for acceleration (Moner and Pasis)... Plus four Phoenixes (or rather - five, because 20% are reborn) - all this gives a very significant advantage.

In offline play, everything is much simpler.
But other castles have their own balancing nuances... Moner is not the best sprinter (Gunnar, Kirr, Dassa)... Phoenixes are only reborn after their final death in their group...
In my opinion, Conflux is overrated!
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