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Hi everyone! Yesterday, I played on the Mysterious Valley map, on Veteran difficulty, as Ossir against Vaishan in a one-on-one match. It wasn't easy, but I won. It's quite a rush map, with weak monsters guarding the passages to each other, and the main challenge for me was to defend without significant losses in the second week. That's exactly what happened. In the second week, I captured the neighboring Undead Castle and suddenly saw Vaishan emerging from the darkness with his Griffins. I couldn't afford to lose the second Castle and its resources, so I approached the flag and attacked. I had 26 Forest Archers (split into 2 stacks of 13), 67 Faeries (also split into stacks), and 20 Dancers. He had 70 Griffins and 20 Fury units. He divided all the Griffins into 2 main stacks and the rest into single units. I got lucky because my Archers moved before his Griffins' main stacks and, with some luck, killed them!))) And the Faeries quickly found and eliminated the hidden single units. His hero managed to kill 10 of my Archers, then realized that his troops wouldn't last until the 2nd round and fled. He cursed a lot in the chat afterward, asking why the Griffins with an initiative of 12 moved after my Archers with an initiative of 11.))) Randomness!)) I was lucky, of course. Otherwise, he could have either won or severely damaged me. After that, I defeated the mages near the shop, captured 2 gold mines, and then calmly built up my city and eventually won. I later found the Unicorn Bow in the center and specifically bought 2 Gnome Artifacts in the shop for 40% magic resistance. But I don't know if he had a skill that bypassed magic resistance; would my 40% have been useless? Or was it still worth buying the 2 Gnome Artifacts? It was funny in the end because he assembled a decent army, but he didn't have any Griffins (Assassins) in that army, which means Vaishan's specialization was useless.)) And my Archers under Ossir were devastating.))

And what does this have to do with this specific subtopic (elves-Necropolis)? In my opinion, it would be better to create a new subtopic rather than lump everything together (which we often see in neighboring topics)...

Which elf lord would you be more afraid of, one aligned with light or one aligned with chaos?

Actually, an elf aligned with chaos is much more dangerous. Not so long ago, Mishgan and I already tested this. True, the Necropolis has one small trick that allows them to avoid taking critical losses, but I won't say what it is. But without it, the Necropolis units die like flies, and the damage is much greater than from ordinary damage, even with luck against enchanted creatures. Friends and gentlemen who say that light is overpowered for the Necropolis simply don't know much.:p You can take light, but you definitely need chaos as well. I completely agree with Mishgan on this.

Apparently, a TERRIBLE secret is hidden behind this trick:eek: (Necropolis against Chaos faction)... It's hard for Haven to guess :smile26:

Elf against Necropolis is definitely LIGHT!

And if we know about Lordesat's trick (and we do know it - but we won't tell anyone about the TERRIBLE secret;)), then why bother with Chaos?!

Another argument against Chaos. Knowing that all spells depend on the magic parameter (and it doesn't really increase for the elf and depends on the number of elder druids), how will we cast Chaos spells with weak magic if the Necropolis sends our druids to the afterlife?

Therefore, LIGHT!

I hope no offense is taken. :o

Another argument against Chaos. Knowing that all spells depend on the magic parameter (and for elves, it hardly increases and depends on the number of elder druids), how will we cast Chaos spells with weak magic if the Necromancer sends our druids to the afterlife?

It's simple here. Take Wing and Sharp Mind. Or you can do without Sharp Mind, but the main thing is that the druids at least go once. Necromancers, as a rule, don't have time to kill them with liches on the first try. But if the druids manage to create a channel, then all the undead are likely doomed. And magic can be easily gained through artifacts, and there's also education.
In general, I'm a bit strange in this topic; I'm more interested in how to kill elves with necromancers, hehe.

Listen, if the Druids get overwhelmed, it won't be the Necropolis that suffers, but the Elven faction...

Listen, if the Druids are defeated, it won't be the Necropolis that's done for, but the Elf...

The Druids might be defeated, but if they manage to create a portal, that's it. Am I writing something wrong, or are you not reading it correctly? I'm tired of writing the same thing in every post. Besides, the Elf also has spells and luck, so who's really in trouble is a big question.

Druids might overwhelm them, but if they manage to create a channel, that's it. Am I writing something wrong, or are you not reading correctly? I'm tired of writing the same thing in posts. Besides, Elves also have spells with luck, so who will be defeated is a big question.

Well, they managed to open a channel, they were killed - the channel closed. What's next - do we open a second one?

I don't know what you're trying to prove, Lordset, but there are some very useful perks against Chaos that allow you to not be afraid of Chaos + artifacts (aren't we going to find artifacts with magic resistance? we'll definitely find at least one)...
better share your Necromancer build against Elves that used Chaos, and we'll definitely find out how you were defeated.

Well, they managed to open a channel, and then they were killed – the channel closed. What’s next – do we open a second channel?

If they managed to open a channel, then before they get killed, the elf will be able to destroy half of the Necropolis army...

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Better share the build for a Necromancer against an elf who used Chaos magic, and we’ll definitely find out how you got destroyed)))

Hehe, you’re sly, Ereb. I won’t share the build, simply because elves won’t destroy me with it – neither with Light nor with Chaos.

Can you at least tell me what levels were involved? It's not that important anyway... the problem is probably this: if the Elf has enough initiative, he will definitely have time to create the portal... waiting for an answer.

Well, what did you expect? Of course, if you take Wing at level 35, the Necromancer also has level 35, but their stats will be lower accordingly.

If they managed to open the channel before they are killed, the elf will be able to destroy half of the Necropolis army.

I initially wanted to refute your praises with mathematics, but it's pointless. Post a replay where the elf, using an open energy channel, destroys the Necromancer's army – then there might be something to discuss.

It seems you're not very good at math. Calculate the damage that will be dealt with a spell of 60, combined with Meteor Shower boots and Skilled Chaos, targeting 4 enemies. I'll post the replay later. But if you're interested, you can ask Mishgan in a private message; we've already lost this battle.

It seems you're not very good at math. Calculate the damage that will be dealt with 60 points of magic, Meteor Shower boots, and Expert Chaos against 4 cursed units. I'll post the replay later. But if you're interested, you can ask Mishgan in a private message; we've already lost this battle.

Well, if I'm weak in math, then I'll leave the calculations of the damage dealt by a Light Elf with 60 points of magic to you – but after you deign to post the replay. And you won't get away with just providing links to Mishgan; as they say in such cases, "replay, please!" :smile09:

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P.S. Don't forget that, in contrast to the "Emerald Boots," the opponent may have the "Cloak of Silanna," not to mention some other artifacts that I listed in answer #18 in the "Necropolis vs. Academy" topic, as well as abilities that affect the reduction of magic damage...