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Good faction, the paladins, inquisitors, and knights are great!:smile20:
They just need to buff the Inquisitors, they're a bit weak...
Although, there's a downside... ALL level 1 units are TERRIBLE:mad: :smile48:

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6/23/2007 5:48 PM UTC

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The entire level 1 exists solely to allow you to progress to level 2, level 3, and so on; this is a characteristic of Haven, so it's more of a plus. And honestly, it would be great if there were Crusaders...
P.S. You have a great signature – HoMM, sweet HoMM!

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6/26/2007 6:22 AM UTC

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The difficulty lies in the fact that in versions 1.5 and 2.1, training should be overseen by an experienced commander with a fully upgraded counterattack skill. Otherwise, there won't be enough money to train high-level units.

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The difficulty lies in the fact that in versions 1.5 and 2.1, training should be handled by an experienced commander with a fully upgraded counterattack skill. Otherwise, there won't be enough money to train high-level units.

Yes, it's a bit expensive when you don't have an "experienced commander"... but there should be enough money, because you can only convert 20 monsters per week!!!
P.S. What should I do with the peasants now? Their growth rate is 49 per week, but you can only convert 20

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Good race, the armored knights, inquisitors, and paladins are great!:smile20:
They just need to buff the Incas, they are too weak...
Although there is a downside... ALL level 1 units are TERRIBLE:mad: :smile48:

Are you talking only about the peasants, or also about the Archers?
If you're talking about the archers, then that's a mistake!!! In my opinion, with Dugald, they are so strong that I divide them into two groups, and they still destroy anyone!!!

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Are you only talking about peasants, or also about Archers?
If you're talking about Archers, then that's a mistake! In my opinion, Dugald's Archers are so strong that I divide them into two groups, and they still take down anyone!

I said the first level, not the second! And it's not Archers that are needed, but Crossbowmen. ;)

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In version 1.5, on a large map, I get more Inquisitors than Archers. I split them into 2 stacks. From the very beginning, I upgrade the main trainer, and when he becomes an experienced commander with a skilled counterattack skill, I give the troops to the main hero.

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In version 1.5, on a large map, I recruit more Inquisitors than Archers. I divide them into 2 stacks. From the very beginning, I upgrade the main trainer, and when he becomes an experienced commander with a skilled counter-attack skill, I transfer the troops to the main hero.

But what's the point?! ... IMHO, Inquisitors are terrible archers....
But this tactic is only good for fun...

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6/27/2007 12:57 PM UTC

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This... well... Haven rules!

And Inquisitors are only weak at long range, but when the enemy gets close... they're actually quite good in melee combat (unlike most ranged units). That's how it is!
And they also have spells, so even if only 1 (one) Inquisitor remains on the battlefield, they'll still be useful!

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When playing against the AI, you often have to storm cities. Paladins aren't very useful in these situations. Perhaps paladins are more useful when playing against another player, but they are more expensive. When training Inquisitors, you might have enough money left over for Archangels as well. Until the last patch, I usually didn't have enough money for them – it all went to Crossbowmen.

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and they also have spells, so even if only 1 (one) Inquisitor remains on the battlefield, he will still be useful!

What... is he even more useful than other units of the same rank?
For example, is an Archlich worse than an Inquisitor?
even a Hell Steed, War Unicorn, or Hydra?
In my opinion, the Inquisitor is only better than a Djinn!

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What... even more so than other units of the same rank?
For example, what's wrong with an Archlich compared to an Inquisitor?
Even a Hell Steed, a War Unicorn, or a Hydra?
In my opinion, the Inquisitor is only better than a Djinn!

I'm not sure about the Djinn, but you're wrong about the Hydra! The Inquisitor not only shoots, moves frequently, but also casts spells and is quite strong in melee combat! :p

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I'm not sure about the Djinn, but you're wrong about the Hydra! Not only do they shoot, but they also move frequently, cast spells, and are quite strong in melee combat! :p

I disagree with that... firstly, the Inquisitor doesn't move very often (average initiative)... and regarding the fact that they shoot, I said they are "terrible" shooters!!!
The Hydra will move even less often than the Inquisitor, but that won't stop it from "taking down" the Inquisitor, whether it's one-on-one or in an army versus army battle!!!:smile19:

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Night Nazgul;99179

I'm not sure about the Djinn, but you're wrong about the Hydra! The Incas not only shoot, they move frequently, and they also cast spells and are quite strong in melee combat! :p

I disagree, even though Humans are my favorite race, I like the Incas the least. Sorry, but they:smile48: Cool Crossbowmen.

Эльф Даниель-сила,безстрашие,честь.

Прикольный хитрый влюблённый рыцарь-арбуз который поднимает настроение и стоит на стороне эльфов=)

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Crossbowmen are effective when there are many of them. Not just many, but a lot. However, after patches 2.1 and 1.5, you can't have too many of them. In version 1.41, I could recruit almost as many as the Necropolis archers. Especially if there was a peasant hut and a gold mine nearby. Therefore, in the patched version, it is more advantageous to train high-level units – Inquisitors or Paladins.