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Posts from Peter Offline 2017, May 6-9. Auto-translated

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Should we wait for you?
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Definitely will
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I’ll probably be there, but I can’t say for sure yet
27.8% 10 votes
I won't
63.9% 23 votes
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Dirty_Player
Lexa, it's a pity that this is all we understand. It all started when some people said, "No matter what happens, I'm definitely getting tickets to Volgograd." It's not surprising that others responded by doing the same. In this situation, I sympathize most with the players who could have organized a great tournament (by the standards of Heroes 5) in Yekaterinburg.
I repeat that in the current situation, there were only two options:
1) The organizers agree among themselves, leaving only one city.
2) Everyone goes where they want (meaning, we turn the CIS into a gathering for fishing in different places).
That's exactly what happened: there were two of us, then somehow four. And now we've lost the opportunity to play Heroes 5 with 6-7 players while simultaneously enjoying the main event: the CIS tournament for Heroes 3 and meeting with a great group of people.
Dirty_Player
No, Dima. It all started with the CIS tournament being at risk of cancellation, then Yekaterinburg appeared, and only then did Volgograd jump in. The first vote already started a process that couldn't be stopped. And I don't even want to talk about Sir Vigo's spectacular entrance. And then the "wishes" of individual people burned all bridges to compromise.
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and that's exactly the order in which it happened...
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Al Feyn
But the result will be that he will also take with him those who COULD have gone to the WLC. But why go there when everything will be in St. Petersburg/Moscow?
(this is not a protest, I see what is happening as a natural stage in the development of the community, I am even glad that it has become so large that we can afford to consider options for splitting up, I just hope that then the spiral of development will turn again towards rethinking/unification)
Could you at least name a couple of people who changed their minds for this reason?
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Let's wait for the events and see. I wrote a "sports prediction." Predictions are verified after the event has occurred.
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Dust_HL
Why ruin wonderful traditions and disrupt our established holiday!?
merlina ask
pushing your own solution with a dismissive attitude towards the opinion of the majority inevitably leads to something like this.
"...the personal strengths and weaknesses of a leader are no true indication of the merits of his cause"

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#66
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The topic is turning into another pointless discussion, so I'll close it for a day to let everyone cool down. If you have any questions, please contact me via ICQ or private message.
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Весна 2012.
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Dave, Jaris, and I are planning to go to St. Petersburg. We have early May holidays, so it might be possible to visit St. Petersburg, but it's practically impossible to go to Volgograd, although we'd really like to. Maybe other people feel the same way.

This is just an example – it means there might be more people like us. I can go to St. Petersburg for 4 days, but a week in Volgograd is unrealistic.
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They asked me to open it, but I will be monitoring the amount of spam and trolling.
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Dust_HL

It loses its original meaning and the global nature of the event! What prevents you from holding your own off-site events for those who cannot afford to attend the CIS event on other dates? Hold your own M-200 event in March, and that's it; it's the same thing, but only those people who have already bought tickets for the CIS event will be able to come to you if they wish. By setting the same dates, you are simply splitting the audience and undermining the Main Event, and you are also ruining your own attendance!

Roman, you could have added a little and, instead of this "Petersburg" event, you could have gone to the CIS event in Volgograd; it's not that far for you, not for the entire duration, but just for a few days. I don't know what your reasons are, but it used to be different! There were no alternatives; everyone went to the one Main Event, and if they couldn't afford it, they "made do" with gatherings in their local community, but on different dates.
Bravo, Lyosha! While reading, I had a similar thought, but I didn't feel the need to write it. +1!
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...People simply don't have the money... My tournament is for those who CANNOT come to this CIS event for some reason, but still want to spend a few days among their friends.
Rom, people find out about a large, general event, which the CIS event still is, 3-4 months in advance. In my opinion, that's plenty of time to prepare. When the CIS event was held in Kyiv, I really wanted to go, but it didn't work out because of money, so I didn't start a thread in the neighboring forum saying "let's organize a CIS event in Moscow," but I stayed home and watched online what the guys were doing. If you don't have money, earn it, save up. If you're too lazy to earn it, then yes, stay home and watch the stream. Nothing personal, it's just my opinion on the subject. Peace to all.

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=St_Klaus It's easier to be lazy and not earn anything – just stay home and watch a stream.
I was especially pleased because practically no one is interested in streaming from the CIS region, and, as practice shows, not many people even watch it.
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I would also like to attend this event, but the coinciding dates with the CIS event are quite disappointing.
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To everyone who can go to the CIS tournament, I advise you to go – it’s great there!
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Dust_HL
The worst part is that the organizers suddenly decided to hold their events on the same dates, seemingly to spite each other.
Not out of spite, but because the dates are just too good – 4 consecutive days off. For many in the CIS region, taking one or two days off is not a problem, but attending smaller tournaments is.
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Wicc
Not out of spite, but because the dates are just too good – 4 consecutive days off. For the CIS region, taking one or two days off is not a problem for many, but participating in smaller tournaments is.
I can suggest a few good dates in the year if you're having trouble choosing, where there are several consecutive days off for organizing a local offline event.
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Dust_HL
I can suggest a few good dates throughout the year if you're having trouble choosing a time with several consecutive days off to organize a local offline event.
What prevents you from just naming them?
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Dust_HL
I can suggest a few good dates throughout the year if you're having trouble choosing a time with several consecutive days off to organize a local offline event.
Please note that I haven't traveled anywhere since 2013 due to personal reasons. A possibility arose a few days ago to do this during the May holidays. I don't know when such an opportunity will arise again. For example, I definitely won't be able to travel during the New Year holidays.