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Should we wait for you?
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Definitely will
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I’ll probably be there, but I can’t say for sure yet
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I won't
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Offline Dust_HL
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I understand that, in your opinion, it would be better if people stayed at home, watched streams of the main event, and just wished they could be there? My main reason is that even those with financial difficulties wouldn't feel left out.
No, I think I explained my point in detail. "Our way" means having ONE Main Event during the May holidays, and no one detracts from its attendance, so that EVERYONE comes. And on other dates, you can organize gatherings every month, please.
Тот, кто борется - может проиграть, кто нет - проиграл уже (с)
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Dustik, we all understand – we’ve repented and won’t do it again. We’ll go to the dacha for the May holidays to dig up potatoes if we can’t go anywhere else.
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Alex_nv - draw - Vovan112013 летос 236

alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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Dustik, we understand – we've repented and won't do it again. We'll go to the dacha for the May holidays to dig up potatoes if we can't go anywhere else.
Sanya, what do you have to do with this? ;) Are you quietly organizing your own tournament for May Day, but haven't announced it yet?
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Why haven't I posted it? There's a discussion on the forum about organizing a small-scale Heroes of Might and Magic V competition in Yekaterinburg.
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ru.twitch.tv/noom11

Alex_nv - draw - Vovan112013 летос 236

alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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лiл :smile54:
Тот, кто борется - может проиграть, кто нет - проиграл уже (с)
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Honestly, I can't imagine how long it would take to play a tournament with 50 players in today's world. At least a week, if you play one round a day in an Olympic-style format.

That's a good question. First of all, you won't gather 50 players. In Krasnodar Chaos, many players came from the Chaos League, about 13-14 people. Now, Moscow won't be able to gather that many, even if they wanted to. Plus, people will leave for Volgograd. Realistically, about 20 people, maybe 25, or even 32 at most.
Let's calculate: Day 1 - 1/16, Day 2 - 1/8, Day 3 - 1/4, Day 4 - 1/2, Day 5 - final. That's 5 days in total.

I'll say more, at the peak of the Heroes wave in the early 2000s, about 30 participants gathered in Michurinsk, and two tournaments were organized: the main Olympic-style tournament and a second-chance tournament with a losers' bracket. Unlike the Chaos League, which is based on the Warcraft-style bracket system with a losers' final and a best-of-two final, we played it simpler: the losers play until the end of the main tournament, and the losers' final coincides with the main final. That is, the players who took 3rd and 4th place decide for themselves whether to stay for another day or simply split the prize money. I forgot to add that I provided a prize fund for 3rd and 4th place.
Considering that there will probably be no more than 32 participants, and not all of the losers will want to continue playing, some will leave earlier, the losers' tournament may end even before the main final.
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No, I think I explained my thought in detail.
I think I did too :) Will you give 33,000 for Volgograd? ;)
Nagan-4
About 20 people can work really well, maybe 25, let's say even 32.
Tomorrow I'll be passing through Michurinsk and I will definitely stop and pay homage to the land that gave birth to and raised such an incorrigible optimist :)
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I think I am too :) Will you give me 33,000 for Volgograd? ;)

Tomorrow I will be passing through Michurinsk and I will definitely stop and pay tribute to the land that gave birth to and raised such an incorrigible optimist :)

I hypothetically stated 32. And regarding 20 - yes, it is quite realistic, the main thing is to try to come to an agreement with Vik. And don't slam doors, but be able to listen and reach a mutual compromise. It all depends on the two of you.
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Kirill, could you provide a link to the comparative analysis in your posts?
Alexander, what do you need that for? Are we starting a civil lawsuit? I haven't filed any claims.
If you have something to say to me personally, write to me in a private message.
That CIS-2015 tournament is memorable for me in a good way. I have nothing against you personally. I'm just not happy with the price in Volgograd, that's why I'm not going there.
I'm not going to write anymore about CIS in Volgograd: everything is clear anyway.
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The price for attending in Volgograd this year is indeed quite high. It's exactly the same as it was last year in St. Petersburg.
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

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The price in Volgograd this year is indeed high. It's exactly the same as it was in St. Petersburg last year.
As far as I remember, 8850 was the price for accommodation for the entire period in a standard room for 2 or 4 people, which was even cheaper, and about 1.5k for the hall... I think St. Petersburg was a little cheaper.
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I hypothetically mentioned 32. As for 20, it's quite realistic; the main thing is to try and come to an agreement with Vik. And don't slam doors, but be able to listen and reach a mutual compromise. It all depends on the two of you.
Last year, 21 people participated in the Heroes tournament in St. Petersburg. And that was with everything happening in one place. I can't imagine where to find 20 people today. You listed the names of players who supposedly will participate, but they were all in St. Petersburg last year, but only Bayazet played.
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No, I think I explained my thought in detail. "In our way," means that for the May holidays, there should be ONE Main Event, and no one should undermine its attendance, where EVERYONE comes together. And you can organize gatherings on other dates, even every month, if you like.
Lexa, it's a pity that only you and I understand this. It all started with some people saying: "no matter what happens, I'm definitely buying tickets to Volgograd." It's not surprising that others did the same in response. In this situation, I understand the players who prefer Heroes 5 the most; they could really organize a great (by the standards of Heroes 5) tournament in Yekaterinburg.

I repeat that in the current situation, there were only two options:
1) The organizers agree among themselves, leaving only one city.
2) Everyone goes where they want (meaning we turn the CIS into a fishing trip in different places)
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It all started when some people said: "no matter what happens, I'm definitely getting tickets to Volgograd."
Kostya, it all started after the first won vote – Korolev submitted his application.
Коротко о себе: спесивый сноб
Чуть длиннее: Фонд Дендроидов
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На ощупь пьют эльфийские стрелки!
Нам это идеально подходит (c)
Это вам не шутки - нажрался Дуст в маршрутке! (с)
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Kostya, it all started after the first won vote – Korolev submitted his application.
No, Dima. It all started with the CIS being on the verge of collapse, EKB appeared, and only then did Volgograd burst in. The first vote already launched a process that could not be stopped. And I don't even want to talk about Sir Vigo's spectacular entry. And then the "wishes" of certain individuals burned all bridges to compromise.
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And again about "just to spite"... My tournament is for those who CANNOT come to this CIS event for some reason, but still want to spend a few days among their own.
But it will also attract those who COULD go to VLG. But why go there when everything will be in St. Petersburg/Moscow?
(this is not a protest, I see what is happening as a natural stage in the community's development, I am even glad that it has become so large that we can afford to consider options to split up, I just hope that then the spiral of development will again turn towards rethinking/unification).
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