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Posts from Final vote for the location of the CIS-2017 tournament.
Let me tell you about the dendroid club myself, because it seems you've forgotten what happened in Krasnodar in 2004. Alan organized a welcome banquet, a poker game, and excursions. So, is Andre also a pseudo-champion?
And the fact that you won't be going has been clear for a long time.
Do you want to compare Andre to the current champion? I can't imagine Andre telling Flam or Lord Dim in Krasnodar, "Let me win, and I'll give you money." And Alan Prost managed to arrange things with all the strongest players of that time – Chaos, Bishop, Andre, Phil, Joker, Pes, Antal, Dim, Fedor, Vasya, the Belarusian brothers DDD with WWW, they all came. Stinger hadn't yet become a father, and Bayazet and AlexGreat also rose to prominence later. He gathered all the best players in the country because they knew he would organize not only leisure activities but also a top-level tournament.
P.S. I will definitely go to Korolev, even if it's in 2018.
Do you want to compare Andre to the current champion? I can't imagine Andre telling Flam or Lord Dim in Krasnodar, "Let me win, and I'll give you money." And Alan Prost managed to arrange for all the strongest players of that time to participate – Chaos, Bishop, Andre, Phil, Joker, Pes, Antal, Dim, Fedor, Vasya, the Belarusian brothers DDD with WWW, they all came. Stinger hadn't become a father yet, and Bayazet and AlexGreat also rose to prominence later. He gathered all the best players in the country because they knew that he would not only organize a fun event but also a tournament at the highest level.
Erik, champions should be compared in the game.
You wrote that there will be "a good table, drinks, a buffet with songs, and a great poker game, everything will be great," and that's exactly why you won't go. To watch a pseudo-championship. I gave you an example. You're talking about a whole group of players from past years (What? Why?).
Eric, you're stuck in 2004. You need to understand that back then, there wasn't really any online play. So, gathering players for tournaments wasn't a problem. Now it's 2017, 13 years have passed. People have already played against each other online, everyone knows each other. Now it's very difficult to make people come somewhere "just to play Heroes." There aren't huge prizes in Heroes tournaments, nothing that would make it worth traveling for. Now, people who spend money want to get something more out of it than just sitting in front of a computer and playing Heroes, while others are doing the same at home. Before, some people would travel to watch top players play live, but now there's no need for that either; everything is available on streams. But you probably don't understand that, because it was so cool in 2004...
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P.S. I will definitely go to Королев, even if it's in 2018.
You definitely already went to St. Petersburg. :rolleyes:
I may not be familiar with all the players, but I'd still like to say something. I get the impression that the organizers don't want to popularize this wonderful game, but rather want to gather a group of 10 people at a base and get drunk. And, frankly, after reading your forum, I can imagine you all beating each other up after 5 shots. I didn't expect this, and you all seemed like serious people. You've made a mess of this event. :confused:
Eric, you're stuck in 2004. You need to understand that back then, there wasn't online play as we know it. So, gathering players for tournaments wasn't a problem. Now it's 2017, 13 years have passed. People have already played against each other online, everyone knows each other. Now it's very difficult to make people come somewhere "just to play Heroes." There aren't huge prizes in Heroes tournaments, just for the sake of which people would travel. Now, people who spend money want to get something more out of it than just sitting in front of a computer and playing Heroes, while others do the same at home. Before, some people would travel to watch top players play live, but now there's no need for that either; everything is available on streams. But you apparently don't understand that, because it was so cool in 2004...
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You definitely went to St. Petersburg. :rolleyes:
M-m-m, I don't catch the irony. In 2015, I was invited to St. Petersburg for the championship, and I even remember being happy about it, I arranged accommodation, promised to bring my wife, and then I was surprised to learn that the "Community" had already played everything, and the championship was moved to Volgograd. But since I couldn't reschedule, I promised different people, so I went to St. Petersburg and had a very good time. In 2016, I didn't promise anyone anything and didn't come. I will come to Korolev because it's nearby, only about three hours away, and that's already a reason. Regarding the fact that people don't want to play Heroes, let this statement remain on your conscience; I can't imagine how a moderator of the Heroes community could write such a thing. Well, you write that people now want something more than just sitting in front of a computer and playing Heroes. And I'm writing the same thing, that the people who will come to Volgograd don't have the goal of just sitting in front of a computer and playing Heroes. :smile38:
Here we have reached an agreement, and on this optimistic note, I will allow myself to say goodbye, as I have already written enough.
I understand that I'm not familiar with most of the players, but I'll still chime in. I get the impression that the organizers don't want to popularize this wonderful game, but rather want to gather in a group of 10 people at a base and get drunk. And, frankly, after reading your forum, I imagine you all beating each other up during a face-to-face meeting after a few shots. I didn't expect that, and everyone seemed like serious people. You've made a MESS out of this event.:confused:
First of all, I want to thank the moderators, there are many of them, but they acted passively and didn't stop the spam and chaos in the early stages, when it was easy to shut down the troublemaker and prevent all the CIS-related threads from turning into a platform for negativity. But now, yes, I'm sure that many unfamiliar, and even familiar, people have been left with a bad aftertaste...
In reality, kabzonn, all the "inadequate people who could have met and beaten each other up" will most likely simply not be able to gather together in one place in real life, so don't worry! And in the end, Alexxl will try to turn this event into something good, I hope it will be at least as good as it was in 2015!!
First of all, I need to thank the moderators, there are many of them, but they were passive and didn't stop the spam and chaos in the early stages, when it was easy to shut down the troublemaker and prevent all the threads about the CIS region from turning into a platform for expressing opinions.
If people are arguing with each other in a civilized manner, it's not appropriate for a moderator to delete their posts. During the entire period of discussions, Dirty and I deleted maybe 20 posts – those containing unfiltered insults; everything else was within the limits of censorship.
Actually, kabzonn, all those "inadequate people who could meet and beat each other up" probably just won't be able to gather in one place in real life, so don't worry! And as a result, Alexxl will try to make something good out of the event; I hope it will be no worse than what he managed to do in 2015!!
As far as I know, I've never seen anyone start fighting each other when I've been there. I repeat that most people are only heroes online. And those who might get into trouble (for example, VLK777) won't even risk coming.
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If people argue with each other in a civilized manner, it's not right for the moderator to delete their posts. Over the entire period of discussions, Dirty and I have deleted maybe 20 posts – where there was unfiltered swearing, the rest was quite within the limits of censorship.
Guys, how is the accommodation planned? It's really expensive to pay for a 3-4 person room alone, or are there plans to rent larger cabins and transfer the money in advance? And in general, how does this usually happen?
Guys, how are you planning on arranging accommodation? It's really expensive to pay for a room that fits 3-4 people alone, or do you plan to rent larger cabins and transfer the money in advance? And generally, how does it usually work?
Just write in the thread about registering for the tournament what conditions you are willing to accept regarding accommodation. The organizers will arrange everything and find roommates if needed.
Hey guys, how are you planning to arrange accommodation? It's really expensive to pay for a 3-4 person room alone, or are there plans to rent larger cabins and transfer the money in advance? And in general, how does it usually work?
You definitely won't be living alone. There are always many single people who come, and they can be grouped together. Everyone wants to save money. You can contact the organizer (ICQ, Skype, VK, private message) and ask any questions.
It was amusing to see screenshots from my stream. This is a classic case of taking quotes out of context. I was discussing the CIS region with Vitya, with our guys, and I'm personally ready to come to Kyiv, even if not for the entire tournament, but definitely for a few days. Yes, I have plans for May, and they've been in the works for a while; they're family-related. So, from my side, it was a vote for what's convenient for me. In particular, I really wanted to see Oxygen. There's no need to try to put on a sour face when the game isn't going well.
P.S. Good luck to everyone at the CIS tournament! Peace.
It was amusing to see screenshots from my stream. This is a classic case of taking quotes out of context. I later discussed the CIS region with Vitya, with our people, and I am personally ready to come to Kyiv, even if not for the entire tournament, but for a few days for sure. Yes, I have plans for May, and they have been in the works for a long time, family plans. So, from my side, it was a vote for what is convenient for me. There is no need to try to put on a sour face when the game is bad.
P.S. Good luck to everyone in the CIS! Peace.
not funny that's a diagnosis absolutely conscious and cynical distortion in the performance of the magician* and the same methods are used in all other votes however, whoever sowed more, reaped the result they desired, amen ______ *) the magician can also be translated as a conjurer.
