Posts from Voting for the location of the CIS-2107 tournament. Auto-translated

A young communist... a law-abiding boy... everyone wants to perform with a tobo-o-o-oy...

If you sing this song in Queen, I'll pay you 3000 rubles). I'm ready to send the money tomorrow, Dirty can vouch for me).

If you sing this song in Korolev, I'll pay you 3000 rubles. I'm ready to send the money tomorrow. Dirty can vouch for me.

For 3000 rubles, half of Korolev will come to listen to you sing... Hopefully, they won't overwhelm you...

Good night, everyone. I want to say to those who think there's still plenty of time before the CIS 2017, believe me, it's not. We can't decide on the venue, catering, and accommodation quickly later on. We really need time and to understand where the event will take place so that we can organize and conduct it properly. With this approach, we'll be choosing until we're old and gray. For me, it doesn't matter if it's Yekaterinburg, Volgograd, or Moscow; I can just jump in the car and drive there.)))
I want to make one thing clear to everyone: in any case, wherever we go, it will cost a significant amount of money, comparable to a good vacation abroad or on our Black Sea coast. Therefore, we need to choose a place where we can all relax, enjoy the May holidays, and meet old/new friends, i.e., really have a good time, and not just get drunk daily in the conference hall and its surrounding areas.
To make all this happen, let's decide faster!)))

P.S. Another organization has already booked a cottage in Volgograd for the May holidays, so we have one less block of rooms available. I have a feeling that if you delay the decision for another week, Volgograd will simply be removed from the list of potential hosts for CIS 2017 due to the lack of available rooms.
All the best to everyone, good night, and sweet dreams!

Best wishes to everyone, good night, and sweet dreams!!!

Good health is the most important thing...

Added 14 minutes later
Well, while we have this break, I suggest we discuss the voting mechanism.
Although, in any case, there are no guarantees that this vote will be the final one (there may be a second round), and there may suddenly be more submissions, so we can't rule out that possibility either (and this is not trolling)...
Personally, I still suggest the point system that was used in the Vlg versus Ekb vote, as it most objectively reflects the opinion of the target audience in the CIS.

No need to rush things – let’s wait for Vigor to announce the price and then run a 3-5-7 day poll.

It is also necessary to provide grounds for victory in the first round, whether based on a points system or any other scoring method. Let's say, 50%+ of the votes. And what should be done if all three submissions receive approximately the same result (which is a very likely scenario)?

let the organizers choose the voting system themselves; they'll have enough time for that in 2 days – and after that, go ahead and organize ticket sales, carpooling, or whatever else you need to do.

Points are, of course, a good thing, but if DD and Oxy want to come to Volgograd again to join Alex, and Merlin joins them, along with the desired Alex, they'll need 20 Togans to outvote them... the number of Buchey or Sanyin is simply unrealistic – 66 individuals. Also, the reverse calculation is just as "fair" – 1 asm = 5 Amster's :D
After all, these people will be participating in the championship, so perhaps we need to come up with some other way to count, and here I agree with Kirill – the sooner, the better.
If we're going to use points, maybe we should count them differently?
For example, 3 or more CIS players – 3 points, 2 – 2 points, 1 – 1 point, and 0.5 points if they haven't participated in any. This would at least reduce the gap and possibly attract new faces who would see that their vote means something.

introduce a limit on the maximum number of points for a single vote – 2 (it was 2 or more in version 2).

3 or more CIS-3 points, 2-2, 1-1, haven't been to any - 0.5. This at least won't create such a large gap and may provide an influx of new people who will see that their voice means something.

At first glance, this scheme is more interesting. Abstractly, the idea of fitting all possible weight values within the range of 1 to 7 has a better chance of working.
Romantik has a weight range of 6 (from 0.5 to 3), Merlin had a range of 20 (from 0.3 to 6).
And if anyone isn't lazy, they can look at how this will work with specific examples.

I confirm that Roma's calculation is more balanced, naturally with the inclusion of a restriction on registering new participants and providing complete information about themselves (name, surname, contact phone number, city of residence, and how likely they are to attend based on the vote) for those whom we have never seen before (so to speak, to register their 0.5 points of votes).

Let's not mess things up – let's wait for Vego to announce the price and then run a 3-5-7 day poll.

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Enough with the negativity towards Mordovia!
No need for insults.
Why even bother with points?
One is 40, another is 35, and the third is 30. So what? Will one vote for Trump, another for Clinton, and the third for a libertarian? Should each candidate have a different weight in the votes?
Trump, Clinton, and the libertarian all want the same thing, but they belong to different parties (and the difference between the parties is essentially just in the names).
So, why even use weighted votes or points or any other nonsense?
The main thing is that a president is chosen, otherwise it will be like in the USA: almost half the population is unhappy, and we have an event like the CIS at stake :eek:

There is no guarantee that those who had 3 or 2 points will even come... :smile20:
Or, figuratively speaking: should we do it like applying for a Schengen visa? Require them to present a hotel booking and round-trip tickets?! Then we definitely won't get a decision on where to hold the CIS.
Within a maximum of 3 days, we determine the number of applications (applications received later will not be accepted), and then launch a poll for a maximum of 3 days.
In the end, in a week, each of us can buy tickets to wherever the simple majority wants to go.
And please, PLEASE:smile41: don't come up with all sorts of voting systems; we'll just waste time, and we might even lose the CIS...

... why even have points at all! ...

as they say, "everything can be explained, but not to everyone." :rolleyes:

p.s.
and this is already outrageous.

Sorry, KillAndAction - moderator/administrator, you are not allowed to ignore him/her.

It would be better to calculate the points as follows:
No visits – 1 point
One visit – 3 points
2 – 4
3 – 5
4 – 6
5 – 7
6 – 8
7 – 9

And if you are Merlin, then 35 points (!just kidding!)

So, the idea is:
- if you are not a virtual participant, you get 3 points immediately
- you need 3 virtual participants to equal one real person; virtual participants get 1 point each (this is like Merlin’s system, and it’s fair)
- since we start with 3 points, and each subsequent visit gives 1 point, the second visit doesn’t make the vote twice as important. That is, if you have visited at least 4 times, only then does your vote weigh twice as much as someone who visited once.
- someone who visited all the CIS countries gets 9 points, which is 3 times more than one visit. In Merlin’s system, such a person had a sevenfold advantage.

And in all voting options, provide the average budget for the event.

There also needs to be an option to vote for multiple options.
With the current budgets, I would give my vote to Korolev and Yekaterinburg