Is the Unified State Exam (USE) a good or bad thing? — Everything about everything.

Fireball

19 years ago

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The Unified State Exam (USE) MUST DIE. Definitely. People have already expressed their opinions about the humanities, and I'll talk about physics and math: to score 90 or higher, you only need basic knowledge and quick reflexes; thinking isn't necessary, and it's even counterproductive (you might run out of time).
Soon, they will introduce tests on vocabulary knowledge, like in the USA. If you know the meaning of the word "claustrophobia," you're a genius, and you can go to Harvard if your parents can afford it. :smile18:

Егор

19 years ago

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They will soon introduce tests on vocabulary knowledge, just like the Americans do. If you know the meaning of the word "claustrophobia," you're a genius and can go to Harvard, if your parents can afford it.

What about the USA? And what about "Harvard"? Did you use rabbit reflexes when writing this post?
P.S. And what do parents have to do with it?

Fireball

19 years ago

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Let me explain: in the USA, questions about the meaning of words that are familiar to any person with a normal vocabulary (NOT Ellocka Shchukina) are included in the final exams. Based on the results of such testing, students are admitted to universities; there are no entrance exams. However, education is still paid and expensive. Free education is rare, specifically if you receive a scholarship. So, you can't do without parents. "Rabbit reflexes" is a metaphor used to describe simple and well-rehearsed actions that are almost automatic for most people. The ability to read, write, and type on a keyboard undoubtedly falls into this category. Therefore, "rabbit reflexes" are used when writing any post.

Егор

19 years ago

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Let me explain: in the USA, questions about the meaning of words that are familiar to any person with a normal vocabulary (NOT Ellocka Shchukina) are included in the final exams. Based on the results of such testing, students are admitted to universities; there are no entrance exams.

Thank you for the explanation; it seems we live in parallel worlds... let's assume I have many colleagues and acquaintances from that country.

But education is still paid and expensive. Free education is rare, specifically if you receive a scholarship. So, you can't do without parents.

Who doesn't need parents? :) Does the USA not have free education? :) What do you mean by expensive? Do you really think that this country lives off its

Fireball

19 years ago

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Truth is multifaceted. I also have enough acquaintances who live permanently in the USA and those who lived (and attended school) there for several years

And what is the percentage of government-funded spots there?

For a while, everyone lives off their parents. But America itself lives off other countries.

I will express only my own opinion: I call education expensive when it is not accessible to practically anyone who wishes and is capable of learning.

Пандора

19 years ago

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The Unified State Exam is still a lottery, like any test. It doesn't always accurately reflect real knowledge. Moreover, the human factor has not been eliminated. And admitting students to universities based on the results of the Unified State Exam is complete nonsense. We need to look for not just a walking encyclopedia, but a thinking person.

AlexeyPunk, If a person is completely clueless, no exam will make them start thinking. Whether it's oral or a test.

And any exam is a lottery (even an oral one). Right now, I'm studying, but I'm thinking, it would be great if I got the question "The Agrarian Question in Russia in the late 19th and early 20th centuries," and not some revolutionary movement that I might not even have time to read about...

On the other hand, oral exams encourage the development of speaking skills.

Again... but aren't you asking too much from an oral exam? Or rather, who told you that it will definitely develop speaking skills? I (and anyone else), believe me, have seen many people taking oral exams, both in school and at university. So, if a person, let's just say, isn't brilliant and doesn't care about these exams at all... and he only uses two words in communication - then this is a hopeless case. No exams will help here. You need to learn to speak much earlier, not during the exam. And a lot depends on the person himself, and on the parents as well. School can't turn a complete idiot into a genius, but it still manages to help some of them... unfortunately.

Маэлгрим

19 years ago

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It's good to have an innate literacy in the Russian language... Fortunately, I do. Although I don't agree that it's innate: you need to read a lot, and everything is remembered purely automatically. As for knowledge: my main goal is to get into a good university on a scholarship spot, and the USE is my hope and support in this—especially since I am confident in my knowledge. The USE can help you get into a university, but after that... if you don't know something, those are your problems, so the ignorant get kicked out.
Regarding "rabbit reflexes." Straight-A students simply don't need to look for a triple bottom where there isn't one. That is exactly what is being tested. Failing students have an advantage in this sense, but they'll still be kicked out of university later anyway, so there's no need to be envious. There is plenty of time for everything, even though I am a known slow-poke plus I check everything three or four times.
Luck and intuition are big things. I'm a bit off own axis (the wheels have come off the track and rolled away with the roof :) ), so I always help myself with magic. It works! I always choose either the easiest option or what I know.

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SandroXXL

19 years ago

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{TO THE TOPIC AUTHOR}I took the USE last year. Math - 78, Russian - 72, physics - 77.

Wow! I took the USE this year, my same: Russian - 72, math - 78, but without physics. I'm almost zero there. If I had taken it, I would have gotten a maximum of 40-50 points.

Luck and intuition are a big deal. I've got a bit of a screw loose (the marbles rolled out and took the roof with them), so I always help myself with magic. It works! I always pick either the easiest one or what I know.

Just on topic. I took literature, studied ticket 12 perfectly. I go in about fifteenth, walk up to the table. Many tickets are gone, only a few left at the edges of the table and one right in the center. I take it - 12!!! I wanted an early answer, but had to wait for one person. Luck is a great thing!

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KRuGeR1991

19 years ago

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Do you really read books that don't have any punctuation marks?:confused:

Well, there is actually a system called "author's punctuation," so what the author does one way, someone else might cross out... Viktor Tsoi wrote all his poems and songs WITHOUT any punctuation marks (author's style).
As for luck, I don't even know how it is with me... I didn't learn one single ticket in physics, and that's the one I got... I answered it with a 5, only because my friends helped, so friends are also very useful.

Пандора

19 years ago

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Regarding knowledge: my main goal is to get into a good university on a state-funded basis, and the Unified State Exam (USE) is my hope and support in this, especially since I am confident in my knowledge. The USE can help you get into a university, and after that... if you don't know something, that's your problem, so those who lack knowledge are weeded out.

Exactly, I completely agree! And that's exactly what I'm saying.