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Have you ever tried to think differently??? Ask yourself, "What if she really is bad, why do people think so???"
It's a good game, and we're not from Mars either (we're people too).:smile06:
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Have you ever tried to think differently? Ask yourself, "What if it's actually good? Why do people think it's bad?"
Believe me, I've asked myself this question many times, both on forums and in my own mind. First, many who dislike Heroes of Might and Magic IV simply say so because "everyone" dislikes it, and when you ask why, they respond like everyone else or spout nonsense.
Furthermore, unlike Alex_R, I actually agree with the positive aspects of Heroes of Might and Magic IV.
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Have you ever tried to think differently??? Ask yourself, "What if it really is bad, why do people think so???"
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What do I care about what others think? I have my own opinion and my own taste. I like this game, and I don't care what people say about it.
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Have you ever tried to think differently??? Ask yourself, "What if it's actually good, why do people think so?"
There are many people, and many opinions; some like it, some don't.
The fourth installment is undoubtedly a continuation of the Heroes series, a continuation with a lot of new ideas. Of course, it can be considered a separate game, but still,
thanks to the fourth game, in the fifth part, heroes also participate in battles, and, for example, you can only cast a spell during a hero's turn. Caravans and the accumulation of creatures in dwellings have also carried over from the fourth game to the fifth.
And all the claims from fans of the third game that the game is a waste of time... well, it's pointless to argue with them. :(
Besides, the topic here is "Problems of the Fourth Game," not something else, so let's not completely dismiss the game; that's not the goal. Those who don't like the game can find other topics, not just about the fourth game. And all the phrases that the fourth game is bad are getting tiresome:mad:

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Here's the main problem with the fourth game: the elf-negroes:D
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There are many people, and just as many opinions; some like it, some don't.
Part 4 is undoubtedly a continuation of the Heroes series, a continuation with a lot of new ideas. Of course, it can be considered a separate game, but still,
thanks to Part 4, in Part 5, heroes also participate in battles, and, for example, you can only cast a spell during a hero's turn. Caravans, the accumulation of creatures in dwellings, and many other things have been carried over from Part 4 to Part 5.
And all the claims from fans of Part 3 that the game is a waste of time... well, it's pointless to argue with them:.
Besides, the topic here is "Problems of Part 4," not something else, so let's not completely dismiss the game; that's not the goal. Those who don't like the game can find other topics, not just about Part 4. And all the phrases that Part 4 is already boring:mad:

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Here's the main problem with Part 4: it's the elf-negroes:D
You've named the positive aspects of Part 4. And you haven't touched on the core issue. The concept of the game itself has changed. Everything you mentioned above is a logical development, and I might add, a very pleasant one. The problem is that they changed the concept. Now, the Heroes series lives only thanks to its fans. This must be acknowledged. It has no future. Now is the time for other games. Faster games... More dynamic games... And NWC changed the concept in Part 4, thereby betraying the fans. My friends, rock is dying. New games are now made for commercial reasons. Heroes are also dying. There will be almost no new players, if there are any at all. They shouldn't have alienated the old audience. They should have made the same game. Yes, that would have been bad, but it was the only chance to save the series. Part 5 saved Heroes, but it ruined the series...:smile27:
Добро- Не цель, а средство, Зло- Дорога к цели...
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The 5th installment saved the heroes, but ruined the series...:smile27:
The 5th installment – yes, but not the 4th. In the 4th game, everything developed, perhaps too much in some areas, but there are reasons for that.
However, the 5th part, which logically should have gathered and perhaps developed all the ideas, turned out to be more like you correctly noted, more similar to the heroes, but lost the narrative thread. BUT this is not a flaw of the 4th game!
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LeSHiJ-MaX, if this bothered you so much, I apologize!
OptiMAL, it's great that you think so, but truth is born in debate. And if you behave like that, some people will lose the desire to discuss... take it easy.
ZYbr, sorry, I didn't try to put down your favorite game, I just tried to understand with Kenny why it's like that...
Uke-by_HoMM![Zavulon], it's probably true, but I'd like to believe otherwise...
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LeSHiJ-MaX, if this bothered you so much, I apologize!
Uke-by_HoMM![Zavulon], it’s probably true, but I’d like to believe otherwise...
I’ll repeat myself. I enjoy communicating with an intelligent person.:smile12: I was just upset about the 4 heroes:smile02:. So, hang in there:smile19:

P.S. I hope you don’t take offense:smile20:
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I'll repeat myself. I enjoy communicating with an intelligent person.:smile12: I was just upset about the 4 heroes:smile02:. So, hang in there:smile19:

P.S. I hope you don't take offense:smile20:
I hope so too....
are you going to fight?:smile27:
P.S. Thanks to everyone for your attention...

P.S. so as not to spam.... Optimal:) THANK YOU, I know;)(next post)
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LeSHiJ-MaX, if this bothered you so much, I apologize!
OptiMAL, it’s great that you think so, but truth is born in debate. And if you behave like that, some people will lose the desire to discuss... take it easy.
ZYbr, sorry, I didn't try to belittle your favorite game, I just tried to understand with Kenny why it's like that...
Uke-by_HoMM![Zavulon], most likely it is, but I would like to believe otherwise...
Heh... Botinki, you have a talent for sparking arguments :)
P.S.: Not all debates lead to truth... unfortunately :)
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You mentioned the positive aspects of the fourth installment. But you didn't touch upon the core issue. The very concept of the game has changed. Everything you mentioned above is a logical development, and I must say, a rather pleasant one. The problem is that they changed the concept. Now, the Heroes series survives only thanks to its fans. This must be acknowledged. It has no future. Now is the time for other games. Faster ones... More dynamic ones... And NWC changed the concept in the fourth installment, thereby betraying the fans. My friends, rock is dying. New games are now made for commercial reasons. Heroes are also dying. There will be almost no new players, if there are any at all. They shouldn't have alienated the old audience. They should have made the same game. Yes, it would have been bad, but it was the only chance to save the series. The fifth installment saved Heroes, but it ruined the series...
No, the series has occupied a good niche, and it will never be without new players. Maybe in the third, and especially the fourth, only fans will play, but the fifth has a chance to revive the entire series. And I don't agree that now is the time for dynamic games; there are still people who love games like Heroes (Disciples, Civilization). Another problem is the flood of consoles on the Russian market; this could really kill Heroes. But even if Heroes dies, there will be Disciples or some other TPS. A niche will never remain empty
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The thing is, Disciples and Civilization aren't as interesting... Heroes offers much more variety... more units (compared to Disciples), and a more engaging gameplay... Heroes was, is, and will be (and this also applies to Heroes 4), but gradually everything will become outdated and lose its appeal... and not enough is being done to develop Heroes 4... if this isn't the case, please correct me.
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It's not necessary at all; many old games are making a comeback because new ones only have beautiful visuals, and you end up thinking about the gameplay: "I've seen this somewhere before." But old games have an interesting plot, and sometimes the gameplay is even better; the graphics are just worse, and frankly, not everyone has a computer powerful enough to play the latest games on maximum settings, so you can't always enjoy the graphics.
Don't you sometimes just want to take those old Heroes 2 discs off the shelf and remember how it was...?
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It's not necessary at all; many old games are making a comeback because new ones only have a beautiful shell, and you think about the game: "I've seen this somewhere before." But old games have an interesting plot, and sometimes the gameplay is better; the graphics are just worse, and besides, not everyone has computers powerful enough to play new games on maximum settings, so you can't always enjoy the graphics.
Don't you sometimes want to take a time-worn disc of those old Heroes games and remember how it was...?
You're probably right, but what's your take on the 3rd and 5th installments?
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When the 4th part came out, I think I was 18. Girls didn't love me, beer made me bloat, and I had no Internet access. Therefore, I had plenty of free time and nowhere to find out that "fourth G" was a thing.

But playing it wasn't interesting to me. I don't know why. Something was missing. Even though the gaming magazines described it as an immortal masterpiece. I was used to Heroes having upgrades, four characteristics, and many different creatures. And they suddenly just took those away.

Yes, there are maniacs in Russian settlements who deeply regret that the 5th part didn't become a continuation of the fourth. But you can't do that, gentlemen! With the same success, you could take away the lightsabers from the Jedi and give them plastic bottles (:D ), saying "This is a revolution! And anyone who doesn't get it is a dunce!"
Подмосковный рейнджер, не ведающий стаха
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