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Who is to blame, and what should we do?
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Multiple choice Public votes Closed 2016-06-15
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Nobody
11.1% 10 votes
Lizard, because I bought the game
37.8% 34 votes
Redwhite, because he sold the game
34.4% 31 votes
Dirty, because he accepted the result of the game
18.9% 17 votes
All others who knew but did not prevent it
18.9% 17 votes
Ayeve, because he DIDN’T sell the game to Hell to restore balance and justice
11.1% 10 votes
Do nothing
12.2% 11 votes
Deprive Lizard of his title
18.9% 17 votes
Ban Redwait from the AK
36.7% 33 votes
Include in the CIS regulations a ban on match-fixing and create a mechanism to monitor this
44.4% 40 votes
Don’t pair winners with losers
13.3% 12 votes
I don’t have an opinion; I want to see the voting results.
15.6% 14 votes
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Offline Redwhait
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Yura, you're great, you know how to stir things up :smile20:
It's been a while since we had some good quality trash talk in Hv :D
For those who haven't been to the CIS scene and only heard about the situation through the grapevine, please continue to stoop to the level of VKL. I think you're not only making me laugh, but also many others :smile12:
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Did the moderators give the green light? ))) He'll troll anyone – just give him a reason, who's going to stop him?

The council members can't even handle cleaning up the mess, but we'll make another subtle "troll" to stir things up, we'll fan the flames so that everyone gets involved and it takes a long time to clean up! Bravo! :smile12: :D

The catchphrase: "We're in the sh*t" will become a sensation of the year! :D
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I'm a simple person; I see the correct answer, so I vote for it.
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I wasn't sure, but I suspected.
Kostya, what are you defending yourself for?! Even if you knew, you definitely couldn't have done anything, the game was played, and whether it was in the middle, end, or beginning of the game doesn't matter anymore. Redwait surrendered, lost, or whatever he did... you definitely couldn't have had any grounds to award a different result.

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Not very good. Here's how it could be: "Aive Hella won - Lizards bought everything!"
Sanin, my friend, the game you're referring to was in the 2nd round, if I'm not mistaken. To win the tournament, that's not enough. Besides, as I already mentioned, there were no grounds for a technical decision either. Redwait went, let's say, and killed himself against a Guardian, for example...

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Kostya, why are you defending yourself?! Even if you knew, you definitely couldn't have done anything; the game was played, and whether it was in the middle, end, or beginning of the game doesn't matter anymore. Redwhite surrendered, lost, or whatever else he did... you definitely couldn't have had any grounds to award a different result...

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Sanin, buddy, the match you're talking about was in the 2nd round, if I'm not mistaken. It's not enough to win the tournament, and as I already mentioned, there were no grounds for a technical win either. Redwhite, let's say, went for it and got destroyed by the Guardian, for example...
It's not about whether it was enough, but about the fact that you can't win the tournament without that match, and stop talking about a random loss in the second round. You know perfectly well that it was completely different. Ed, don't ruin the show. As for whether Dirty could or couldn't have influenced the outcome, he definitely could have. There's no need to go to a fortune teller; it would just require the desire. But he doesn't object to match-fixing; it's a normal thing. Just agree not to play.
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Sanin, buddy, the match you're talking about was in the 2nd round, if I'm not mistaken. To win the tournament, that's not enough. Besides, as I already mentioned, there were no grounds for a technical decision either. Redwhite went in, so to speak, and lost to GO, for example...

I'm just trying to put myself in the shoes of both players, and I can't imagine that I would think to buy or sell a victory in the most prestigious tournament™.
And apparently, I'm not the only one, since Hell and Ive didn't think of it either.

Now, of course, it's pointless to do anything, so I voted for the option "do nothing." It's quite enough that the situation has become public and everyone can draw their own conclusions.
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Out of curiosity, how much money did Redwaight raise?
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I didn't vote, but if I had been at that event, I would have told everyone to

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go to hell
and I wouldn't come back again.
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I didn't vote, but if I were at that event, I would tell everyone to go to hell and never come back.
Good for you. And don't come back. Let's have us come to you instead. Let's organize a CIS event next year.
We don't have a queue of people wanting to be Organizers. Because the Organizer has to spend not only their time but also their money.
There is also no unified system of organization, no single regulatory body, because everything is done on sheer enthusiasm and as free time allows. Now, I hope, we will still develop a unified Regulation.

Regarding the topic - I don't see the point in voting, since I have already stated all my considerations in my initial topic.
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

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Good for you. And don't come. Let's have us come to you instead. Organize your CIS event next year.
We don't have a queue of people wanting to be Organizers. Because the Organizer has to spend not only their time but also their money.
There is also no unified system of organization, no single regulatory body, because everything is done on pure enthusiasm and as free time allows. Now, I hope, we will still develop a unified Regulation.

Regarding the topic - I don't see the point in voting, since I have already outlined all considerations in my initial topic.
Please note that I did not criticize anyone, and simply described my actions (albeit hypothetical). As for the regulations, well, that's just like spitting in the face (sorry for the rudeness) - don't forget to add a clause that it is forbidden to threaten the health and life of any participant, just in case someone comes who is broke or something. IMHO.
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The voting inspired...
The European Broadcasting Union will consider a petition regarding the results of Eurovision.


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don't forget to add a clause that it is forbidden to threaten the health and life of any participant, because who knows what might happen, someone might come without money or something else. IMHO
What was that even about? What money are we talking about? The money for accommodation and participation? Those who don't have money just don't come, or they find a way...
As for threats to life and health, there's no need to mix things up. There's a Criminal Code for that, if anything happens.
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

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What was that all about just now? What money are we talking about?
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You don't know the whole situation; you don't know that the person came to the CIS region in debt. He had certain financial difficulties, and someone helped him resolve them.
MerlinTheMagician
they are looking for options...
Precisely because I wasn't at the event, I'm not so harsh in my statements, and I don't even resort to personal attacks; I'm just expressing my opinion, being someone
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who wasn't at the CIS event and only heard about the situation through three people.
And it's just surprising that you need some kind of regulation, without which the whole mess of the situation is clear, and this is exactly what my comparison is related to
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rubbish-on-a-fence
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and it’s simply surprising that you need some kind of regulations, without which the whole mess of the situation is clear, and this is exactly what my comparison is related to
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Read the first topic in the adjacent thread. In general, any tournament claiming to be a competition should have rules. This year, a precedent was created that had not existed before. Or rather, a series of precedents. These include the amount of alcohol in the hall, the presence of random people who are not related to anyone among the participants or guests of the event, the fact that there wasn't a single Organizer who didn't play in the tournament, and an unusual game situation with a fixed match... And therefore, opinions are being exchanged. So that when SUBSTANTIAL opinions accumulate, that is, the opinions of participants from all years of events, a common document can be developed, which everyone signs before going to the CIS.

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By the way… where is the option – Merlin is to blame for everything, because by the way…? Yura, add it to the list of points.
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