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Posts from Post-tournament analysis and discussion of the CIS Tournament Regulations.
No lower than yours (because that's impossible) and that's fine:).
Are you still celebrating that great victory?) I didn't buy the game, I wasn't suspected of cheating, I didn't use 231 re-rolls, and I didn't sleep during the games. I have an impeccable reputation.
Added after 31 seconds =Lizard=
And regarding the game - there was no problem at all: the opponent's units were standing in battle and doing nothing while being shot at by marksmen. My win. There's no problem at all, but the public is like that - full of envious and dissatisfied people.
Before criticizing and mocking, you should first achieve something yourselves, and then you can offer your opinions. Right? Well, there's not much else to add. "Everything is clear." Sportsmanship comes first; online games are secondary.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/ За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
Publicity – yes, it’s bad, but it was done entirely on my own initiative.
As for the game – there’s no problem at all: the opponent’s units were standing in battle and doing nothing while being shot at by marksmen. My win. There’s no problem at all, but the public is like that – full of envious and dissatisfied people.
Now, there’s some kind of complete shift in concepts. Kostya, just answer the question: why didn’t you suggest to Reddit beforehand, even before the game, to let you win as a friend and neighbor who is no longer competing for 1st place? The answer is simple: you wanted to win... but you lost, and that fact cannot be changed... In general, I agree that changing the results after the fact is stupid. It should have been done either immediately or not at all. In principle, most people saw everything perfectly well themselves, and those who didn’t see it personally found out on the same day.
Artem, I'm sorry, but it's not up to you alone to decide. Merlin did the right thing by raising this issue. It would be half the problem if the person who was cheated didn't make it to the prizes. But if someone who shouldn't be in the prizes is there, then we should at least discuss it. P.S. I'm a bit shocked right now because I just found out about the situation.
Sergey, no problem, I haven't forgotten that there are three other organizers + the head judge. I've expressed my opinion, and it won't change. What happened at the CIS tournament should stay there. It's not within the jurisdiction of the AK/KS or any other bodies. It's up to the people who were there and participated.
Added 2 minutes later LuckyF
In principle, most people saw everything clearly, and those who didn't see it personally found out on the same day.
I found out about this almost by chance the next day. A frustrating match against Hell drained all my morale, and I didn't have time for other games that day. =( Dirty Kostyan also found out later
Added 2 minutes later By the way, Lizard should have been tested for meldonium)) He gave me some pills, supposedly for a headache)))
Sergey, no problem, I haven't forgotten that there are three other organizers + the head judge. I've expressed my opinion and it won't change. What happened at the CIS should stay there. This is not under the jurisdiction of the AC/KS or any other bodies. This is the business of those people who were there and participated.
The tournament is held under the auspices of HeroesWorld, the games count towards the official rating, and ultimately the winner proudly wears a medal under their avatar for winning this tournament. So I think the portal (represented by the AC) has a voice in this.
The tournament is held under the auspices of HW, the games count towards the official ranking, and ultimately, the winner proudly displays a medal for winning this tournament next to their avatar. So, I think the portal (in the person of AK) has its say.
No, it doesn't.
You can only appeal to AK regarding games from official HW tournaments. That is, tournaments where the first post clearly states "official tournament." Or where it says something like "in disputed situations, players have the right to appeal to AK." All other tournaments are considered unofficial, and the word of AK in them carries weight only with the permission of the organizer.
However, in this case, AK will still issue a decision of "results will not be reviewed," so there's no need to waste your time typing.
I specifically reviewed it: there is nothing about this in the regulations. Besides, the CIS existed long before HW =) Nitro
the games are counted in the official ranking, and in the end, the winner proudly wears a medal under their avatar for winning this tournament. So I think the portal (in the person of AK)has its say.
Say in what? No one has forbidden discussing the situation, it seems)) How to prevent a recurrence in the future is a good question, there is something to think about.
It's starting to feel like a complete misrepresentation of what happened. Kostya, just answer this: why didn't you suggest to Reddit beforehand, before the game, that he lose to you, as a friend and neighbor who is no longer competing for 1st place? The answer is simple: you wanted to win... but you lost, and that's a fact that can't be changed... In general, I agree that changing the results after the fact is pointless. It should have been done either immediately or not at all. In principle, most people saw everything themselves, and those who didn't see it in person found out on the same day.
Zhenya, the thing is that there was a preliminary agreement before the game. Accusing me or Lizard of deciding to let my backer go through is just absurd. Yes, you can say it's dirty:D, because because of me, your odds were lower, but team tactics exist in many sports:rolleyes:
Zhen, the point is that there was a preliminary agreement even before the game. Accusing me or Lizard of the fact that I decided to let someone else pass further, essentially because of my backer status, seems absurd. Yes, you can say it's unfair:D, because because of me, your odds were lower, but team tactics exist in many sports:rolleyes:
I remember in Formula 1, Rubens Barrichello deliberately slowed down at the finish line to let Schumacher take first place, and he wasn't penalized for it.
I don't blame Lizard at all in this matter, because the person strives for victory, and he proved it in the qualifying rounds, and secondly, he didn't accidentally win 3 more games.
The fact that Redwhait was ready to lose in advance, because he lost in the first round, is the main problem with the tournament regulations.
Long before the CIS tournament, I repeatedly asked on streams, "Are you developing the regulations?". To which Num, Redwhait, Cobra, and other future CIS participants stated that "We'll figure it out on the spot."
In reality: The organizers of the CIS tournament do not know how many participants there will be in the tournament until it starts, which results in an odd number of players and immediately creates tension for the draw.
First suggestion: CIS participants register for the tournament in advance, transfer the entry fee to the account of the chief judge - who is Dirty Player at the moment. It is also stipulated that this must be done N days before the start of the tournament.
Second suggestion: the regulations are developed based on the registered participants in advance. This format, in which a player who loses one match no longer has a chance to win the tournament, has lost its relevance.
Of course, you can argue that the Swiss system is the best because the tournament time is limited. But in reality, in 6 days, you can play a mini group stage + an Olympic-style playoff with a full final. And the tournament will only benefit from this. You can even play 2 games a day.
Please note that in my CIS region, there were no problems with the regulations!
P.S. Two games a day on XL for all participants is pure fantasy or something only Jebus could achieve. This is only possible on m200.
The pool of templates is a separate topic. That's why it's necessary to develop the regulations in advance. It's not necessary to add m-200. But, for example, adding a fixed template in the group stage, where the game doesn't take much time, is quite realistic. For example, a regulation that eliminates subjective restarts saves time. For example, a maximum of 112 restarts, and you pay 500 gold for a restart per day. And so on, planning everything in advance to reduce the chance of problems is not such a bad thing.
And even better, have a calendar for the tournament days and plan all the time, both in-game and out-of-game.
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