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=Lizard=

10 years ago

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Decided to try out an old WT tournament format on HotA. The tournament is, of course, unofficial, but possibly has a prize pool (see below).

Game version: HoTA 1.4.2 (latest version, download link: http://download.h3hota.com/HotA_full_setup), HD-mode 4.100 RC5, HW-rulez 1.38.

Template: jebus cross, simultaneous turns until turn 117 inclusive.

Game timer: 8+4+1 (in case of mutual transfer - 8+5+1). Can only be changed to a lower value, otherwise the point of the idea is lost.

Game format: bidding for color, after which blue first chooses any Castle and any hero. Red can take the same Castle, but a different hero.

Restarts: 1 restart on day 111. After finishing turn 111, the red player must write to blue: "taking restart" or "not taking restart", after which blue decides whether to take their own restart.

Redraw: allowed.

Using scrolls without building a Mage Guild: allowed.

Sod's restrictions on Necros, Conflux, etc.: cancelled. In particular, you can upgrade Vampires, Firebirds, etc.

Organizers: =Lizard=

Tournament system: Swiss with elimination after 2 losses.

The tournament is unofficial. Creating reports via the button for results to count towards the rating is NOT mandatory. You can just use text, like in the "Fo-Fan games" thread.

Good luck to everyone in the battles!

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StickyFingaz

10 years ago

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Why give 3 weeks for a single game that lasts 2-3 hours?

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Wicc

10 years ago

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Yeah, I don't know... it's just the way it's done... and Lizard gave the same amount.

But generally, yes, you can give less, like 2 weeks, for example. I'll probably do that in the next round.

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HellLighT

10 years ago

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Wicc

I don't know... it's just the established practice... and Lizard gave the same amount of time.

But generally, yes, you can give less time, like 2 weeks. I'll probably do that in the next round.

Kostya gave that much time only for the first round because he was going on vacation or a business trip. In general, the standard time for a round is 2 weeks, and this is a blitz, so a week is more than enough. A game takes 3-4 hours, if not less, and our community of slow players will always drag it out until the last moment; if you give them 3 weeks, they'll play on the fourth Monday.

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twaryna

10 years ago

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Wicc

happy orange - twaryna ???

The opponent couldn't play, so they forfeited the match.

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KobRa_RR

10 years ago

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I joined the game very early, as early as turn 132! But with 14 Archangels and all stats at 16. I managed to regain control, thanks for the game!

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KobRa_RR

Faction Замок / Castle

Start Hero Валеска / Valeska

Main Hero Гундула / Gundula

Победа / Def

yarik1987

Faction Оплот / Rampart

Start Hero Кайри / Kyrre

Main Hero Ивор / Ivor

Map Template: Jebus Cross
Game Length: 137 days
Game Date: 2/1/2016
Reported: 2/1/2016 8:26 PM

KobRa_RR 1880 → 1881 +1 ↑

yarik1987 1430 → 1429 -1 ↓

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/7/2016 6:12 PM

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aka.Ward3n

10 years ago

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02.02.2016 aka.Ward3n(red,Fort,Drakon,Tazar) lose Rep1sk (blue,Cove,Anabel) JC 122
What can I say. HotA is crap. Especially on Jebus. The respawn is just insane. One Dragon Fly Hive, 2 Griffin Conservatories, piles of new junk, like resource silos. Tazar grabs air and 37 archers, 15 ducks, 4 angels and 70 gnolls are clearly not enough for GO from hydras. Thanks for the game.
P.S. The opponent's respawn is also pretty crappy.
P.P.S. Until the game is brought to a somewhat playable state, instead of adding a ton of unnecessary garbage, I'm definitely never touching HotA again

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Rep1sk

10 years ago

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aka.Ward3n

02.02.2016 aka.Ward3n(red,Fort,Drakon,Tazar) lose Rep1sk (blue,Cove,Anabel) JC 122
What can I say. HotA - crap. Especially on Jebus. The respawn is just insane. One Dragon Fly Hive, 2 Griffin Conservatories, tons of new junk, like resource depots. Tazar grabs air and 37 archers, 15 ducks, 4 angels, and 70 gnolls are clearly not enough for GO from hydras. Thanks for the game.
P.S. Opp's respawn is some crap too.
P.P.S. Until the game is brought to a more or less playable state, instead of adding a bunch of unnecessary crap, I'm definitely not touching HotA again.

Agreed. Too many new objects, 1 Dragon Fly Hive, 1 Griffin Conservatory, both minimums. And that's it )). Opp surrendered before me at GO.
Thanks for the game

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Wicc

10 years ago

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aka.Ward3n

The respawn is just awesome. One Dragon Fly Hive, 2 Griffin Conservatories

You're reasoning as if such generations never happen in SoD :rolleyes:

I actually have a statistics file for 8mm6a, 100 generations analyzed, with the following results:

SoD:
Griffin Conservatories - 17.35
Dragon Fly Hives - 29.37

HotA:
Griffin Conservatories - 15.49 (89% of SoD)
Dragon Fly Hives - 24.9 (85% of SoD)

This is for HotA version 1.3.4; since then the number of new objects has increased slightly, but only slightly.

Jebus Cross wasn't analyzed, but I think the picture there is roughly the same.

And taking into account Workshops and Zeppelin Huts (their frequencies were adjusted for rough parity with Griffin Conservatories and Dragon Fly Hives), the total volume of canned meat is 50-70% higher than in SoD.

But in any case, players are on equal footing; nobody promised the ability to break through the ГО on day 122 from any starting position. Cobra, for example, reached day 132 as mentioned above.

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nik312

10 years ago

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I analyzed Jebus Cross a couple of versions ago as well. And yes, the picture was roughly the same. There are 30% fewer hives and cans, but combined with everything else, there is more meat.

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Falcone

10 years ago

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Great respawn with an angel portal and a solid trio. 3 external dwellings of monks, mana well is gathered, Pandora for the whole fifth [day] behind a hundred colorful pirates. Valya with logy, armor, tactics. Skipped a couple of days because of the timer, and reached 125 with 7 archs, 30 zealots, 40 marks. Immediately took the kettle and jumped to a visible Dragon Utopia—a hundred scorpicor guards for a couple of bags of gold and a necklace+3 all. They beat me up quite a bit with their paralyzes; on top of that, the timer ran out and the necklace was stolen from under my nose. But stats were already decent, next turn I captured the center Tower, and another turn later I covered Kirry. Stats are equal, but there's little army and no mana. I blow up the ducks, Kirry kills the ones and pays off, and on the next turn surrenders. Thanks for the game!

Falcone

Faction Замок / Castle

Start Hero Валеска / Valeska

Main Hero Валеска / Valeska

Победа / Def

Redwhait

Faction Оплот / Rampart

Start Hero Кайри / Kyrre

Main Hero Кайри / Kyrre

Map Template: Jebus Cross
Game Length: 132 days
Game Date: 2/5/2016
Reported: 2/5/2016 3:55 PM

Falcone 1714 → 1733 +19 ↑

Redwhait 1817 → 1798 -19 ↓

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/5/2016 4:19 PM

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Redwhait

10 years ago

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Falcone

Excellent respawn with an angel portal and a solid top three. 3 external dwellings of monks, mana well is set up, Pandora for the entire fifth [day] behind a hundred colorful pirates. Valya has logo, armor, tactics. Skipped a couple of days because of the timer, and came out on day 125 with 7 archangels, 30 zealots, 40 marksmen. Immediately took the kettle and jumped to a visible Dragon Utopia—a hundred scorpicorns guarding a couple of bags of gold and a necklace+3 all. They beat me up quite a bit with their paralyses, and then the timer ran out and the necklace was stolen from under my nose. But stats were already decent; next turn I captured the center Tower, and another turn later I crushed Kirry. Stats are equal, but there's little army and no mana there. I blow up the utopians, Kirry kills the ones and pays to retreat, and on the next turn surrenders. Thanks for the game!

Kirry without land, lost half her troops by the time she reached the center. In the center there are only utopians and nothing else to do. You can't push against 10 archangels.
Thanks for the game.

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StickyFingaz

10 years ago

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socola, get in touch.

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Silence-

10 years ago

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The roads are terrible; I spent 3.5 turns just to get to the location – poor progress due to the small amount of gold on the ground. I found one angel stash, but I couldn't take it on the first attempt – it was guarded by 50+ monks and 4 zealots. Valeska leveled up well, captured the ground, and gained stats. Due to the timer, I made mistakes, so I could only exit on turn 125, and I hadn't seen the Guardian of the Oasis (GO) before because of the blocks. The GO turned out to be archdevils. There was no strategy; the battle was sad. I left with about 19 cyclops, sacrificing the angels and all the meat. Then, I put Valeska in the central town to replenish mana, and sent the meat to the center to take a couple of hives to get something. In the end, Crag with better stats and significantly more power covered Valeska. I played for another 2 days hoping for a miracle, but there was no point in playing without a main hero. Thanks for the game.

Silence-

Faction Замок / Castle

Start Hero Валеска / Valeska

Main Hero Валеска / Valeska

Поражение / Lose

Toganash

Faction Цитадель / Stronghold

Start Hero Крег Хак / Crag Hack

Main Hero Крег Хак / Crag Hack

Map Template: Jebus Cross
Game Length: 132 days
Game Date: 2/6/2016
Reported: 2/6/2016 11:22 AM

Silence- 1515 → 1506 -9 ↓

Toganash 1667 → 1676 +9 ↑

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/7/2016 8:14 PM

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Izgoy

10 years ago

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Started playing because of 3 Zeffirs and Kirr, but literally immediately caught Gunnar too. Respecced. On 112, trained 10 experience behind a crowd of ogres. Gunnar caught the ground, then two more boxes for 10k experience. Burned a cudgel for +5 and a hat for all 6. Colored the external dwelling of angels on 114. Nothing much interesting after that except the Griffin Conservatory of 3 kits with oil on 117. Cleave setup right under ГО on 121. On 122, broke ГО easily under oil. Then until 131, ate everything I could. Opponent came out on the third week with upgraded birds. I upgraded 11 angels to archangels before the finale. Attacked with Bracers and КШ. gg came through. Thanks for the game.

Izgoy

Faction Замок / Castle

Start Hero Валеска / Valeska

Main Hero Гуннар / Gunnar

Победа / Def

The_

Faction Сопряжение / Conflux

Start Hero Монер / Monere

Main Hero Монер / Monere

Map Template: Jebus Cross
Game Length: 134 days
Game Date: 2/6/2016
Reported: 2/6/2016 9:34 PM

Izgoy 1453 → 1479 +26 ↑

The_ 1744 → 1718 -26 ↓

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 5/28/2016 5:53 AM

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Iamsamstan

10 years ago

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Iamsamstan (red, flux, Luna, Luna) lose to Blitz (blue, castle, Valeska, Valeska) JC, 122
You need to learn the basics so you don't try to use Luna on an angel in the dungeon, hoping to find raiders there))) Thanks for the game!