Appeals Committee. Disputed situations in tournaments. — Tournament Committee

shpilenger

1/24/2016 6:51 AM UTC

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Antoshka

watched the end of this stream.
Of course, after a 10-hour marathon, mistakes and other things start to happen.
Especially when the spellbook doesn't open at such a crucial moment, right before the timer runs out.

But, to be fair, after watching this episode several times, I've come to the conclusion that it's a bug with Hell, not with the software.
The spellbook should open when the mouse button is released, not when it's pressed.
In the stream, it's clearly visible that Hell presses the mouse button and then quickly moves the mouse away, meaning there's no release of the button. Then he starts to panic and holds the mouse button down and manages to move the mouse again before releasing it. And only on the third attempt does he fulfill the condition for the spellbook to activate: pressing and releasing the mouse button on the spellbook, and then the desired action occurs.

It's understandable, but I don't see any reason to replay anything.

P.S. As an alternative, this action could be attributed to the mouse sticking.

If this is Hell's bug, then anyone can repeat this trick with the mouse. Can you record a video, because I can't seem to make it work?);)

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Sanin

1/24/2016 7:33 AM UTC

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shpilenger

If this is a bug in Hell, then anyone can reproduce this mouse trick. Can you record a video, because I can't seem to make it work?);)

I can't record a video, but I managed to reproduce it, even on Soda. It's worth noting that at the moment the bug occurs, the cursor itself doesn't freeze; you can still control it, and the timer doesn't freeze either, meaning the gameplay is fine. However, the animation of objects stops. How to reproduce: click on the book and, without releasing the button, move the cursor. The animation will freeze until the button is released, and the timer will continue to run. After that, you can move the cursor over the book as many times as you want; the animation of the click will trigger, but the book won't open until you release the button, the timer will continue to run, and the animation of the map objects will stop.

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Antoshka

1/24/2016 7:33 AM UTC

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shpilenger

If this is a bug in Heroes, then anyone can reproduce this mouse-related issue. Could you record a video of it? I can't seem to make it happen.;)

If someone teaches me how to record videos and upload them...
I can connect remotely (using TeamViewer or similar) and demonstrate it.

.... шло время, а ситуация не менялась. Мясо продолжало визжать и пищать и главное НИЧЕГО не делать!!!

HellLighT

1/24/2016 7:55 AM UTC

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Antoshka, are you saying that I'm so hopeless that I couldn't manage to click the mouse button twice, even in a panic?

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Antoshka

1/24/2016 8:15 AM UTC

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HellLighT

Antoshka, are you saying that I'm so incompetent that I couldn't click the mouse button twice in a panic?

I choose my words carefully and am not so categorical ;).
But honestly, the entire last turn was a series of failures and wasted time. It's obvious that by that point you were already tired, and the tension of the game was taking its toll.
The first click - you did everything quickly, in your usual rhythm. - after the click, the mouse cursor is in the center of the screen. This leads us to believe that the hypothesis is correct.
Then comes the panic...
The second time, it's clearly visible that you "hold" the cursor "pressed" for about a second without ever "releasing" it - which again leads us to believe that the hypothesis is confirmed.

And the third time - you just "clicked" as you should, and lo and behold! the book opened.
But 7 seconds of panic passed... and a lot of emotions. As a result, this topic arose.

Again, let the judges decide how much my assumption resembles the truth.

.... шло время, а ситуация не менялась. Мясо продолжало визжать и пищать и главное НИЧЕГО не делать!!!

HellLighT

1/24/2016 9:27 AM UTC

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I can only interpret your words as the ravings of a madman. I've played over 2,000 games and nothing like this has ever happened, and now I'm supposed to panic and start mashing the mouse button?

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KobRa_RR

1/24/2016 11:11 AM UTC

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if you were playing the latest version, then it's not surprising that such a bug could have occurred /topic/at/873903/

HellLighT

1/24/2016 11:15 AM UTC

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Well, the HD mod was the last one, and I suspected it was the cause for the past couple of days, even during games with Grizzwald on anarchy, with occasional brief freezes.

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Antoshka

1/24/2016 11:19 AM UTC

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HellLighT

I can only interpret your words as the ravings of a madman. So, I've played around 2,000+ games where nothing like this ever happened, and now I'm suddenly panicking and mashing the mouse button.

Are you saying that in the video, you were calm, your actions were precise, well-thought-out, and calculated?
The nervousness and panic in your actions, resulting from fatigue, led to the outcome you see. This is clearly confirmed by the stream video.
Or do you have other explanations for all the actions in the last few turns?
Then why do you think you couldn't have made just one more "mistake"?

There were quite a few mistakes made, which you would never have allowed in a normal state. I don't want to discuss this here until the game is finished, so as not to reveal any "secrets."

Regarding "nothing like this has ever happened" - I can say that the algorithm for clicking icons in the game hasn't changed in the last 19 years.

.... шло время, а ситуация не менялась. Мясо продолжало визжать и пищать и главное НИЧЕГО не делать!!!

HellLighT

1/24/2016 11:55 AM UTC

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only someone unfamiliar with competitive gaming could write such nonsense; holding down a mouse button for 7 seconds isn't a mistake, it's something an autistic person would do. And to accuse serious players of something like that is not much better... I ask you to leave this topic and go somewhere else, as you clearly have nothing to contribute to the discussion.

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Antoshka

1/24/2016 12:07 PM UTC

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HellLighT

Only someone not very familiar with competitive gaming could write such nonsense. Holding down a mouse button for 7 seconds isn't a mistake; it means you have to be autistic to do that. And to accuse serious players of something like that is not much better... I ask you to leave this topic and go somewhere else, as you have nothing to do with the process.

If you don't like the only logical explanation offered for your actions, that doesn't mean it's nonsense.
However, it wouldn't hurt you to behave more adequately.
Don't try to twist things.
There are videos, even two. I recommend you calm down and watch them with a clear head.

Let's assume that my assumption is incorrect. Then how do you explain that in the first two cases, you sharply moved the mouse, and the book didn't open, but when you released the button on the icon, it worked?
I'm ready to listen to your arguments, because it won't be nonsense :).

.... шло время, а ситуация не менялась. Мясо продолжало визжать и пищать и главное НИЧЕГО не делать!!!

HellLighT

1/24/2016 12:17 PM UTC

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I don't want to talk to you. I've already provided all the necessary information. You are nobody, and I don't need to address you by name or explain anything to you.

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Antoshka

1/24/2016 12:21 PM UTC

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Okay. You chose to adopt an ostrich-like stance.

.... шло время, а ситуация не менялась. Мясо продолжало визжать и пищать и главное НИЧЕГО не делать!!!

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ДаУ

1/24/2016 12:37 PM UTC

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HellLighT

I don't want to talk to you. I've already provided all the necessary information. You're nobody, I don't need to address you by name, and I'm not going to explain anything to you.

I didn't read everything, but maybe his hand was shaking and he wasn't aiming properly?

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Тут делимся книгами /topic/at/1139927/

cost

1/24/2016 1:36 PM UTC

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I think that if such click-throughs happened to other players as well, and the HD mod is to blame, then considering the game's size, it would be possible to allow the hero to stand on the desired cell, without the ability to change artifacts (if such a need exists), although who cares about my opinion).

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