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Toganash

11 years ago

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The first long-awaited tournament on mirror templates

Spirit and idea of the tournament

Since the times of VT, everyone has been expecting an adaptation of mirror templates for SoD. And now it has happened. Here there is minimum room for "luck" and maximum opportunity to demonstrate your "skill".
Forward!

The tournament prize pool is 15000р. For first place – 8000, second – 4000, third – 2000, and 1000 rubles will go as a people's choice award.

I. Registration and Regulations:
a) The tournament starts on July 17, 2015.
b) Registration is open until July 16, 18:00 MSK.
c) The tournament bracket and system of conduct will be determined after registration closes depending on the number of participants.
d) In the event of a large number of registrants, a bracket option will be chosen to conduct qualifying games in the shortest possible time and weed out most participants so that only truly experienced players participate in further struggles and the tournament does not stretch over time.
e) To participate in the tournament, it is necessary by the end of registration to have at least 5 played and confirmed games on ХВ. Also, recently registered ХВ members who do not meet the requirement for the number of played games may participate if they are sponsors of the tournament (contribution of at least 1000 rubles to the fund) and have no past violations of portal rules.
f) The group stage deadline is until 31.08.2015.
g)The upper and lower bracket finals are played bo3 (one match diamond + h3dm1, if a 3rd match is necessary, a coin toss).
The Grand Final is played bo5, with a score of 1-0 in favor of the player from the upper bracket.

II. Rules and Templates:
a) By default, games are on version HoTA (1.3.8)+HD-mod with the HW-Rules 1.34 patch connected; by agreement, opponents may play SoD.
b) Color and the right to choose a hero are negotiated (therefore red-rush is allowed). First, castles are determined (in the case of mirror templates, it is the same), then negotiations for color and hero follow alternately.
c) Each player has the right to cross out 1 undesirable castle, as well as 1 hero before the start of negotiation for them (may choose not to use this right), after which a ban on these castles is set in HW-Rulz mode and a random 1-castle generator is launched. The game will be played with this castle.
d) The template for the game is chosen from two existing "mirrors": "mir_Diamond", "mir_h3dm1" by agreement; if an agreement cannot be reached, the choice is made by a coin toss in hw-rulz. 1 - h3dm1, 0 - mir_Diamond.
e) "Hit-and-run" is prohibited.
f) There is 1 subjective restart and objective restarts (restart due to a block (inability to leave the castle) or a severe generation bug).
g) Roads are medium.
h) It is forbidden to steal anything other than resources and chests from guards that have been shifted, or to visit objects (except mills) that do not have their own internal guards.
i) The use of diplomacy is prohibited except for paying off enemies.
j) Game timer is chess: 21+8,30+1,15. Starting difficulty - 160%.
k) Use of in-game bugs described in the rules on ХВ and various kinds of cheat codes is prohibited.
l) The main rule is game ethics and a respectful attitude toward the opponent.
m) Everything that is not forbidden by the rules is allowed.
n) For SoD, any building is allowed; however, in captured villages and towns, building an additional necromancy amplifier is prohibited, except in the starting town.
o) ДД no more than 1 time per day regardless of the "Air" skill level.

III. Organizational Issues:
a) The tournament is unofficial.
b) The tournament is conducted according to the Rules for organizing, conducting, and participating in HOMM3 online tournaments.
c) Tournament leaders and judges – Redwhait HP (658339987), KobRa_RR (286406830), Toganash (564224919). Chief judge - Dirty_Player (ICQ 408722873).
d) Leaders have the right to make any changes to the regulations and rules during the tournament, as well as the right to refuse participation to any player without a public explanation of reasons.
e) For each played game, participants must submit a report and confirmation.
f) Saves of all games must be kept until the end of the tournament and presented upon the first request of the tournament leader or judge.
g) The judicial decision is made primarily based on the tournament rules. If the situation that arose is not regulated by the rules, judges are guided by basic logic and game ethics.
h) All tournament games go into the seasonal rating. Reports and confirmations are written in this thread and will be copied to the "Online game reports and their confirmations" thread.

Good luck, and may skill win!!!

In reply to Flash652

Toganash

11 years ago

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Flash652

Hello everyone!

"To participate in the tournament, you must have at least 5 played and confirmed matches by the end of the tournament registration period."

Sorry for the newbie question; as you can see from my profile, I'm new here. But how do I play and, most importantly, confirm my matches? Thank you!

You can find opponents here: /topic/10980/
And here: /topic/10877/ and here: /topic/11369/

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Toganash

11 years ago

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Please register me for the tournament.

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_XS!_

11 years ago

toganash :) a vot eto zabavnij post :) :smile19:

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=Lizard=

11 years ago

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Toganash

Please register me for the tournament.

Have you already played 5 games in the season? Have you written the reports?

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nik312

11 years ago

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Okay, before the tournament starts, I'll throw in one more thought about the hero trading system. :smile30: I played a bit of mirror matches with a full random setup... If we're talking about the overall experience: a mirror match should ideally be a place where you perfectly realize your potential, squeezing out everything possible from the situation (it's somewhat similar to offline play). If some castles are deprived of their main strengths, the gameplay becomes somewhat poorer, and the potential ceiling is lowered. You no longer have the feeling of amazing efficiency in everything you do because "Luna could have been better" or "if only it was Shakti...". Of course, in the case of trading, only one player gets the desired hero, but the other player, firstly, receives at least some compensation for it, and secondly, still gets a decent hero, not the worst one in the castle. If we look at it from a slightly stricter perspective: "imbalanced" heroes (heroes that significantly increase a player's potential tempo) are not limited to just those that are currently banned in mirror matches. Powerful mages (Luna, Solmyr, Tant) and, as far as I understand, unconventional specialists (Bron, Illor) are also not taken into account. This means that by default (with a probability noticeably greater than 50%), both players start with weak heroes, but with some equal probability, one player gets a one-sided imbalanced advantage. If you implement a trading system, one player is guaranteed to start with some advantage, and the other buys a better hero. But both players are guaranteed not to start with completely terrible heroes. In my opinion, this is a healthier situation. Well, okay, this is probably the last time I'll bring up this topic.

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Amiloo

11 years ago

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I don't understand, is Darkello skipping or is he sick? The atmosphere isn't the same anymore. I'll stand in for him.
Organizers!!! Where is the draw?? It's been half a day, and I'm sure everyone (and this isn't just my opinion) is tired of waiting! Can you speed up the process somehow???

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Diabler

11 years ago

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Amiloo

I don't understand, is Darkello skipping or is he sick? The atmosphere isn't the same anymore. I'll take his place.
Organizers!!! Where is the draw?? It's been half a day, and I'm sure everyone (and this isn't just my opinion) is tired of waiting! Can you somehow speed up the process???

Hold on, they still need to determine the tournament system:smile30:

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Redwhait

11 years ago

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The draw will be held on my channel at 18:30 Moscow time.
http://www.twitch.tv/redwhait
8 groups, with 7 participants each.
1st and 2nd place advance to the upper bracket.
3rd and 4th place go to the lower bracket.
The group stage will last until the end of August!
In the playoffs, all matches are best-of-1. The finals of the upper and lower brackets are best-of-3. The grand final is best-of-5, with a 1-0 advantage for the winner.

Those who didn't find themselves on the list of participants will be placed on the reserve list.

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Dirty_Player

11 years ago

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Isn't one week too short for a tour?

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Redwhait

11 years ago

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I think everyone has read the first post. g) If there are a large number of registered players, a bracket system will be chosen to conduct qualifying matches in the shortest possible time and eliminate most of the participants, so that only truly experienced players participate in the further competition, and the tournament does not drag on in terms of time. In the playoffs, there will be more time per game.

Added 2 hours 14 minutes ago
http://www.twitch.tv/redwhait We are starting.

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Toganash

11 years ago

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nik312

Okay, before the tournament starts, I'll share my thoughts on the hero trading system one more time. :smile30: I played a bit of mirror matches with full random...

If we talk about the feeling: a mirror match should be a place where you can perfectly realize your potential, get the most out of the situation, and push the limits (it's somewhat similar to offline play). If some factions are deprived of their main strengths, the gameplay becomes somewhat poorer, and the potential decreases, and you no longer have the feeling of amazing efficiency in everything you do, because "the Moon faction could have been better" or "if only there was Shakti...". Of course, in the case of trading, only one player gets the desired hero, but the other player, firstly, receives at least some compensation for it, and secondly, gets not complete garbage, but the second-best hero in that faction.

If we look at it from a slightly stricter perspective: "imbalanced" heroes (heroes that significantly increase a player's potential tempo) are not limited to those that are currently banned in mirror matches. Powerful mages (Moon, Solmyr, Tant) and, as far as I understand, unconventional specialists (Bron, Illor) are also not taken into account. As a result, by default (with a probability noticeably greater than 50%), both players start with weak heroes, but with some equal probability, one player gets a one-sided imbalanced advantage. If we introduce trading, then one player is guaranteed to start with some advantage, and the other buys a better hero. But both players are guaranteed not to play with completely useless heroes. In my opinion, this is a healthier situation.

Well, okay, this is probably the last time I'll talk about this.

I'm more likely to agree with you than disagree. We won't change anything on the fly right now. We can create a poll among those who make it out of the group stage and remain in the double-elimination bracket after the first group stage to get their opinion on this.

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Redwhait

11 years ago

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The draw for the second stage!
You need to play at least 2 games by August 3rd. All the remaining games must be played by the 31st.

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Javdet

11 years ago

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In our group, Alena will replace him, as he withdrew his application.

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=Lizard=

11 years ago

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nik312

Okay, before the tournament starts, I’ll throw in my two cents about the hero trading system. :smile30: I played a bit of mirror match with a full random setup...

If we talk about the feeling: a mirror match should be a place where you perfectly realize your potential, extract everything possible from the situation, and even things that might not be there (it's somewhat similar to offline play). If some factions are deprived of their main strengths, the gameplay becomes somewhat poorer, and the potential bar is lowered, and you no longer have the feeling of amazing efficiency in everything you do because "Luna could have been better" or "if only it was Shakti...". Of course, in the case of trading, only one player gets the perk, but the other player, firstly, at least receives some compensation for it, and secondly, still gets not complete garbage, but the second-best hero in the faction.

If we look at it from a slightly stricter perspective: "imbalanced" heroes (heroes that significantly increase the player's potential tempo) are not limited to those that are currently banned in mirror matches by the program. Cool mages (Luna, Solmyr, Tant) and, as far as I understand, unconventional specialists (Bron, Illor) are also not taken into account. As a result, by default (with a probability noticeably greater than 50%), both players start with something mediocre, but with some equal probability, one of them gets a one-sided imbalanced advantage. If you do trading, then one player is guaranteed to start with some advantage, and the other buys a better hero. But both are guaranteed not to play with complete garbage. In my opinion, this is a healthier situation.

Well, okay, this is probably the last time I'll talk about this.

+1. This person is really making a good point. This isn't just a random thought; it's something that needs to be done.

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Toganash

11 years ago

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=Lizard=

+1. This person is actually making a valid point. This isn't just random chatter; it's something that needs to be done.

Until the end of the group stage, I suggest not changing anything. If there's a desire to negotiate, agree on it with your opponent, and it will become clear how much support there is for it. I even recommend indicating in the reports at the beginning whether there was a trade for a hero or not, which will provide a picture for the next stage.