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16 years ago
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Is it possible to win this mission without summoning the flying city of Zephyr? I don't see the point in summoning it yet – there are two dwarven cities underground, Wolfsten's primary city with the Tear of Ash, and a decent group of pink ghosts has joined Zephyr, along with about 30 rakshasas, 18 elders, and 10 sultans. Zephyr is level 29, and Wolfsten seems capable of defending himself:smile10: – he's level 27.
In theory, it's possible to do without it (I had 2 Tears of Ash, and Zephyr was level 30) – definitely in the last mission; maybe in this one too.
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16 years ago
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You can definitely do without summoning the flying city and save 20,000 experience points, although in the next mission, this amount will seem insignificant – summoning just 4 Thunderbirds requires 16,000 experience points, not 4,500 as with Rakshasas :eek: ! :smile13:

Defeating the dwarf before the portal was easy – I did it without the help of the Wolfenstein dwarves, but with the active participation of 93 summoned Rakshasas, 83 Spectres, 10 Djinns, and 18 Grand Mages. During the battle, the "Dominate" spell from the found tome of dark magic was very helpful – I cast it on the priests of Arkat and then removed the spell from 20 dragons to make it easier to defeat them. The Rakshasas performed EXCELLENTLY :smile49: in battle – I summoned their phantom once and then resurrected them each time. After the battle, 77 Rakshasas and 42 Spectres survived :smile16: :smile23: !
It's a pity that I couldn't bring Wolfenstein into the light – I really wanted to take him to the library and bypass the upgrades (crystal of knowledge, ring of magic), but he turned out to have a heightened sense of duty, saying that he needs to stay down and protect his brothers or something like that. In short, Zehir completed this mission at level 30, while Wolfenstein only reached level 26 :smile06: .
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16 years ago
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faj
It was easy to defeat the dwarf before the portal.

I'm a little embarrassed to ask - what difficulty level is this? For me, this is still one of the most difficult missions - I probably replayed the final battle about 10 times. That nasty Rolf, with an army that wasn't inferior to mine, kept casting "Enslave" on my Rakshasa! Of course, I also used dark magic, but there weren't many targets to cast it on - only the Jarls/Earls. But my Rakshasa managed to cut down half of the army. And when "Enslave" was reflected a couple of times by the magic mirror, it became easy to win.
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16 years ago
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faj
It's a pity that I couldn't bring Wulfsten to completion – I really wanted to take him to the library, bypass the upgrades (Crystal of Knowledge, Ring of Magic), but he turned out to have a heightened sense of duty, saying that he needs to stay down there and protect his brothers or something like that. In short, Zehir completed this mission at level 30, and Wulfsten only at level 26 :smile06:.
I should have taken Zehir to the underground to Wulfsten (using the "Portal").

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Divinora
I'm a little embarrassed to ask – what difficulty level is this? For me, it's still one of the most difficult missions – I probably replayed the final battle about 10 times. That nasty Rolf, with an army that wasn't inferior to mine, kept throwing spells of Subjugation at my Rakshasas! Of course, I also used Darkness, but there weren't many targets to cast it on – except for the Jarls/Earls. But my Rakshasas managed to cut down half of the army. And when Subjugation was deflected by the Magic Mirror a couple of times, it became easy to win.

The battle is difficult if you don't use the AI's well-known weakness – I only used Kshatriyas and cast "Vampirism" on them – all that remained was to choose the "fattest" attacks to restore maximum health (game difficulty – "Hero").
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16 years ago
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So, if we only have 1 stack of creatures, does the "subjugate" ability not apply to them? Why is it that when the AI has only one stack, the subjugation ability works perfectly?
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16 years ago
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Divinora
So, if we only have 1 stack of creatures, does the "Dominate" spell not work on them? Why is it that when the AI has only one stack, the "Dominate" spell works perfectly?
The issue isn't that we have only 1 unit (or stack, to use the proper term) – it's that after casting "Vampirism" on the Kshatriyas, they become undead, which has several consequences, and it will be impossible to dominate them without Sandro's cloak (Biara has this cloak in the final mission, so you need to be careful with her).
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16 years ago
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Divinora
I'm a little embarrassed to ask - what difficulty level is this?
I played on version 3.1, difficulty level - Warrior.
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16 years ago
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antonag07
The point isn't that we have only 1 unit (a stack, in other words), but that after applying "Vampirism" to the Kshatriyas, they become undead with all the consequences that entails, and it will be impossible to control them without Sandro's cloak (this cloak is possessed by Biara in the final mission, so you need to be careful with her).

:eek: That's exactly it – you live and learn. I'm hearing about this vampirism effect for the first time. Thanks, we'll keep that in mind;)
faj
I played on version 3.1, difficulty level - warrior.
Ah, that explains it. It seems the AI on "warrior" doesn't use high-level spells, making it easier to defeat)))
15 years ago
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This mission seemed difficult to me because of the yellow player, who kept coming through his portals onto my territory. At first, I defended myself against him, but then I gave up. I built up a town with Wolfstone, defended it when necessary. Zehir emerged on the surface and ran around. I just wanted to complete this mission as quickly as possible because you can't really develop your hero in it. I didn't touch the Erls guarding the entrance to the Dungeon. It's impossible to capture the second yellow Castle anyway because of Hangwul. Although, I heard that someone managed to send Zehir to the Castle. Is that even possible? I attacked Rolf in waves. The first time, I wiped out half of his army with a Berserker, Subjugation, and other spells. I attacked him just out of curiosity, knowing that I would lose. But after Zehir's defeat, he could be hired in Ilm-Hijra! I accumulated a week's worth of reinforcements and attacked Rolf again. I shortened his army again with dark spells. I lost. I hired Zehir again, gathered troops, and on the third attempt, I defeated Rolf. By the way, he's not very good as a hero. He cast Grief on Rakshasas like an idiot, and Zehir deflected it in 90% of cases. That's how it was.
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11 years ago
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antonag07
The point is not that we have 1 unit (a stack, in other words), but that after applying "Vampirism" to the Kshatriyas, they become undead with all the consequences that follow, and it will be impossible to control them without Sandro's cloak (this cloak is possessed by Biara in the last mission, so you need to be careful with her).

I also had Zehir gain Vampirism after replacing Luck with Darkness in the first game, and I tested it specifically on Rakshasas – it's very effective.:smile54:
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11 years ago
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For those who like to play it safe.
Trying to overwhelm the yellow heroes is pointless because they constantly reappear, like cockroaches, from two locations. Even if you kill one, they immediately reappear; it's always Ibba, Helmar, and Erling. You are only allowed to hire two of them. Therefore, after capturing the second Dwarven town and placing a second Ashu there, Zehir can go north to look for the red tent. More precisely, first, he needs to gather academic troops to break through the neutral creatures and guards along the way. Zehir can go down, but Wulfsten cannot go up, so in the end, when you transfer some of the artifacts to him, you can also take all the troops from the two Dwarven towns, and give Wulf all the academic troops, because the yellow heroes don't have the same troops as Rolf, and even Zehir. For example, during my second playthrough of this mission, Zehir couldn't defeat Rolf with academic troops, so I exchanged them for a guaranteed victory. Alternatively, instead of placing the second Ashu in the northern Dwarven town, you could place it in the Academy, which might lead to a different outcome, but I'll try that next time. And that's how I passed the mission, but in the end, Wulfsten didn't gain a single level during this mission, and it's hard to say if that will be enough for the end. (Zehir is level 28, Wulf is level 25)
11 years ago
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Why would Zehir need to build up his Academy forces when they bring in free cats every week, and there are enough of them to clear out any neutral creatures?
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11 years ago
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Vadimh
Why would Zehir need to amass Academy troops when they get free cats every week, which are enough to clear out any neutral creatures?

Personally, I feel bad about wasting so much experience on these "cats" for no real gain :p
11 years ago
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Where should I accumulate experience? By this point, I already have everything I need, but the requirement of 800,000 experience points is discouraging. About 10-20 units are enough to defeat all the neutral creatures.
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11 years ago
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Vadimh
Where should I accumulate experience? By this point, I already have everything I need, but the requirement of 800,000 experience is discouraging. About 10-20 units are enough to defeat all the neutrals.

Well, in the last mission, I have to spend 10,000 on Titans, and I constantly watch to make sure I don't lose any skills. :(

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