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Choosing a starting Castle?
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"only XL-2"

Greetings to all fans of "XL" templates! This tournament is just for you:smile20:


I. Rules and Templates.

1. The rules are standard. The tournament will be held using the SoD 3.2 (4.0) + HD-mod version of the game.
2. XL templates: 8mm6a, 8хм12а, 6LM10a, 8xm8a, Spider.
3. Template selection is standard; Red starts first, with Blue making the final choice.
4. Castle selection is done by poll in a standard manner; Blue starts first. After restart, the color does not change (by mutual agreement, Random can be chosen, with resource selection and color swap).
5. Total number of restarts (113), i.e., 111+111+111, 111+112, 113
6. Time limit per turn with chess timer - 21:00+08:00+01:15
7. Roads are medium and fast
8. The time for one game is 2 weeks

II. Regulations

Stage 1 – Group Stage

16 groups of 6 players each. Two players from each group advance to the next stage, based on the highest score.
In case of equal scores, places are determined according to additional criteria (in order of priority):
1. Berger coefficient.
2. Head-to-head result.
3. Points scored in a game "weigh" more than technical defeats.
4. If it is impossible to determine who advances to the playoffs based on previous criteria, players will be offered a scheme for tiebreaker games. At this time, it is impossible to foresee all possible combinations of results. Therefore, the final scheme will be developed based on the situation that arises in the groups at the end of the stage.

Round 1: February 14 - February 27
Round 2: February 28 - March 13
Deadline for 2 games: March 15
Round 3: March 14 - March 27
Round 4: March 28 - April 10
Deadline for 4 games: April 12
Round 5: April 11 - April 24
Deadline for 5 games: April 26
RESERVE, voting for the playoff bracket: April 25 - April 28
Playoff draw: April 27 - April 28
Vacation: April 29 - May 8, CIS-2015

Attention!!! Failure to play the required number of games (report the played games) by the deadline results in disqualification, except for vacation or valid reasons, provided that you inform the organizers about the reason in advance.

In the group stage, each player can take a two-week break; notify the tournament organizers in advance (before the start of the round), with the obligation to play the games before the next deadline.

Victory – 3 points; defeat – 0; draw – 1 point (counted at Stage 211+ at the discretion of the organizers)

Players who have already advanced to the playoffs should send me two answers to the question in ICQ:
1. Template selection
a) Template selection is done in a standard manner.
b) Random template selection (specify preferences: coin toss once for template selection or every time after restart).
1. Castle Selection
a) Castle selection is done in a standard manner.
b) Castles are selected randomly, with color change after restart.
P.S. Please do not just write "1a 2b," but provide a complete answer. All voting results will be posted on the forum..

Stage 2 – Olympic Tournament

32 players, random distribution, 1st place and 2nd from the groups.
Changes to the rules based on the voting results:Random castle selection, with bonus selection and color swap.

Round 1 1/16 May 9 - May 22
Round 2 1/8 May 23 - June 5
Round 3 1/4 June 6 - June 19
Round 4 1/2 June 20 - July 3
Round 5 FINAL up to 2 wins July 4 - July 31; August 14

III. Organizational Issues

1. The tournament starts on February 13, 2015 (processing of the poll for castle selection, determination of the final regulations of the tournament, draw of groups)
2. The tournament is official
3. The tournament is held according to Rules for organizing, conducting, and participating in online HOMM3 tournaments
4. Tournament host, organizational issues – Scorpiona (ICQ 469326983), Nitro (ICQ 627769385) – organizational issues.
5. Tournament judge – Dirty_Player (ICQ 408722873)
6. Organizers reserve the right to refuse participation in the tournament to a user without publicly explaining the reasons.
7. The winner of the tournament will receive a medal under their avatar.
The winner of the previous tournament "only XL" AlexTheGreat[/B]
In reply to Stomper
11 years ago
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Stomper
Not much money at the starting location, but I found a bugged passage through the mine to the snowy area near the turquoise computer, where there was something to do at the beginning, although the computer itself was blocked. Thanks to this, I gradually started to develop. My opponent is completely losing, and he decides to surrender.
Thank you for the game!


Confirmed,
thank you for the game.
In reply to marajan
11 years ago
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marajan
the opponent had a double buff, but otherwise, everything seemed worse
we met in the center, the advantage in stats decided the outcome, although Tazara had slightly less attack power
thanks for the game


I confirm,
thank you for the game.
In reply to Akella
11 years ago
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Rich map for Griffin Conservatories, Dragon Fly Hives, and Dragon Utopias, but I couldn't find control for a long time, built only the 3rd guild. In the FB, spell power decided the outcome; I attacked without checking because my opponent offered to save at the end of this turn, and I felt like finishing it. If my opponent had had a Crimson Orb and Shackles of War, I would have lost.
My opponent's daddy was Crag Hack.
Thanks for the game.
Battle Report Accepted
Цитадель / Stronghold Faction Цитадель / Stronghold
Тираксор / Tyraxor Start Hero Тираксор / Tyraxor
Тираксор / Tyraxor Main Hero Тираксор / Tyraxor
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Mar
Синий / Blue
Замок / Castle Faction Замок / Castle
Валеска / Valeska Start Hero Валеска / Valeska
Валеска / Valeska Main Hero Валеска / Valeska
Map Template
8mm6a
Game Length
212 days
Game Date
2/15/2015
Reported
2/15/2015 9:02 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Dima Surmay 1737 1745 +8 ↑
Mar 1545 1537 -8 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/15/2015 9:28 PM

In reply to Akella
11 years ago
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The opponent offered a game with a random template. A couple of times it rolled something like H8, but it seems we ended up playing MM6. I started with cavalry and griffins in the citadel on the first week, captured an external dwelling of archers, and near the town there were two Trog Griffin Conservatories (one is a level 2). I gave Valka the Log, and she started to grow. I broke through to the pink underground dungeon and the purple castle, when a message came from the opponent - gg. Thanks for the game
Battle Report Accepted
Замок / Castle Faction Замок / Castle
Валеска / Valeska Start Hero Валеска / Valeska
Валеска / Valeska Main Hero Валеска / Valeska
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Сольмир / Solmyr Start Hero Сольмир / Solmyr
Сольмир / Solmyr Main Hero Сольмир / Solmyr
Map Template
Random
Game Length
125 days
Game Date
2/15/2015
Reported
2/15/2015 9:25 PM
Rating Impact Archived
rebellious 1679 1680 +1 ↑
Niemand 1195 1194 -1 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/15/2015 9:35 PM

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Got a good starting hand: Craig + 27 archers from the start, 3 cons and 2 Dragon Utopias at the respawn. Craig leveled up well, but the lack of money in the 2nd week prevented playing tempo. Therefore, I started taking cons from 127. At 135-136, I broke 2 own Dragon Utopias and ran into a dead-end treasure zone in search of happiness. There were a couple of hives and nothing else. Before the opponent arrived, I managed to pick up a 3rd Dragon Utopia in my home village; they gave wings, КЗ. Upgraded 13 angels out of 17 and met the opponent on defense.
Thanks for the game.
In reply to rebellious
11 years ago
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The opponent offered a game with a random map generator. A couple of times it rolled something like hm8, but we ended up playing something more like mm6. I opened with cavalry and griffins in the Citadel on the first week, took an external dwelling of archers, and there were two Griffin Conservatories near the town (one was upgraded). Valka was given Logistics, and she started to scale. I broke through to the pink underground dungeon and the purple castle, when a message came from the opponent - gg. Thanks for the game.
On the first map I lost half of the gremlins to four dozen dire wolves for a Teleport spell, and on the second I had a bad fight with the computer.
Thanks for the game!
In reply to Akella
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11 years ago
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OP picked Inferno, took it as a "personal insult", wants to humiliate me I think :D:D Turns out he just missed it.
At 111 I see the Griffin Conservatory and decide to play. Didn't have much gold.
The way I took the enemy can easily be written in the book of noobs. Chapter "Favorites". Losing 6 days with the main hero is complete idiocy.
To get the birds, I traded almost all resources. At the enemy's respawn, I revealed another Griffin Conservatory, fat 3-4. Dove into the underground, revealed the Boots of Speed. Next turn I take a Pandora's Box, idiotically lost the bird, thought the Pegasi of Mephala couldn't handle it, minus one, but the Air Elementals are intact! Gave 35 Fire Elementals. I run through with the main hero, open a lookout, glance, see red flags, and I don't even bring the meat. Well, I moved the army as far away as possible, bartered for ransom, thinking well goodbye boots from three hexes short. Crap, I think, now Inferno will punish me, and worst of all so stupidly... But OP attacked with the secondary hero, because the main couldn't reach. FB was a bit nerve-wracking for me. Had 10 mana, Blind costs 5 and Cure 6, needed 1 more. Morale kicked in a few times and OP writes GG.



Thanks for the game!
Battle Report Accepted
Сопряжение / Conflux Faction Сопряжение / Conflux
Random Start Hero Random
Мефала / Mephala Main Hero Мефала / Mephala
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Инферно / Inferno Faction Инферно / Inferno
Мариусса / Marius Start Hero Мариусса / Marius
Мариусса / Marius Main Hero Мариусса / Marius
Map Template
8mm6a
Game Length
125 days
Game Date
2/15/2015
Reported
2/15/2015 9:58 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Lider1 1635 1645 +10 ↑
Fidesxfx 1500 1490 -10 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/15/2015 10:05 PM

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OP took Inferno, took it as a "personal insult", wants to humiliate I think :D:D Turns out he just missed it.
At 111 I see the Griffin Conservatory and decide to play. Money wasn't great.
The way I took the computer could easily be written into a noob book. Chapter "Favorites". Losing 6 days with the main hero is complete idiocy.
Traded almost all resources for the birds to be summoned. On the computer's respawn, I revealed another Griffin Conservatory, a fat level 3-4. Dove into the underground, revealed some boots. Next turn I take a Pandora's box, idiotically lost the bird, thought the pegasi at Mephala wouldn't handle it, minus one, but the air elementals are intact! Got 35 fire elementals. I run through with the main, open up a view, look, see red flags, and I'm not even bringing the meat. Well, I moved the army as far away as I could, traded for a ransom, thinking well that's it, goodbye boots, three hexes short. I think damn, now I'm going to be punished by Inferno, and most importantly so stupidly... But OP attacked with a lesser hero, since the main one was short on movement. FB was a bit nerve-wracking for me. Had 10 mana, Bless costs 5 and Cure costs 6, needed one more. A few luck/morale procs went off and OP writes GG.



Thanks for the game!
A bugged respawn didn't allow for a proper game, maybe it was a mistake to attack with a lesser hero, but there was no point in waiting either. Be that as it may, I didn't expect OP's arrival from the side of the village area).
Thanks for the game.
In reply to Akella
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11 years ago
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Thank you for playing!
Battle Report Accepted
Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Кайри / Kyrre Start Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Кайри / Kyrre Main Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Замок / Castle Faction Замок / Castle
Кейтлин / Caitlin Start Hero Кейтлин / Caitlin
Видомина / Vidomina Main Hero Видомина / Vidomina
Map Template
8xm12a
Game Length
132 days
Game Date
2/16/2015
Reported
2/16/2015 2:22 AM
Rating Impact Archived
BISHOP 1837 1847 +10 ↑
The_ 1708 1698 -10 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/16/2015 9:55 AM

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BISHOP
Thanks for the game!
We picked all the rest and off we went..
To tell the truth, it's a pity to lose games where you did everything you could and did quite well. By the start of the second month, I killed two computers; by the second month, I built a level 5 mage guild (got Fire Shield + Clone + Fire Elementals), deep in the respawn area I took two Griffin Conservatories 2+2, necromanced 300 skeletons, but Bishop by week 1 day 2 3 had 9 angels, 30 grand elves, 20 dendroids, and 3.9k MP on Kyrre (boots + stables) and quickly found a path to me. He ran around for three days, I tried to hide somewhere, but Kyrre simply crossed the entire area in three days and took all the castles I had been scouting for two weeks.
Luck favors those who are lucky, thanks for the game!
In reply to Wicc
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11 years ago
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Wicc
And by the way, yes - why isn't Nostalgia mentioned?
Scorpiona
Because it's a restrictive archetype, with the presence of GO (Guard of Order), just like, for example, Jebus, it requires a different, non-contact tactic. In general, it's an archetype with a different psychology, something like that.
I wonder, does Scorpiona have a lot of experience playing against Nostalgia? :)

I've played a total of 15-20 games, 5-7 of which were in tournaments, and I dare say that the tactic and psychology there are typical for other XL archetypes. At least, it's less similar to Jeb or CM (Chaos Magic) Nostalgia. Perhaps a little like Mini-Nostalgia, but only partially.
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11 years ago
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Thank you for playing.
Battle Report Accepted
Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Аин / Aine Start Hero Аин / Aine
Аин / Aine Main Hero Аин / Aine
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Цитадель / Stronghold Faction Цитадель / Stronghold
Крег Хак / Crag Hack Start Hero Крег Хак / Crag Hack
Крег Хак / Crag Hack Main Hero Крег Хак / Crag Hack
Map Template
8xm12a
Game Length
141 days
Game Date
2/16/2015
Reported
2/16/2015 11:09 AM
Rating Impact Archived
BillyBons 1461 1485 +24 ↑
rebellious 1705 1681 -24 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/16/2015 4:11 PM

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I entered with 31 archers, Shiva, and a cons, decided to play. Very little money, the road to the teleport turned out to be long, but there's a very good junction leading to the center and my teammate (though it's blocked by a chord of gr. pegasi).
In the end, on turn 1 I went toward the purple bot, who turned out to be Inferno; I land on 117 in Castle, everything there is set up for ifrits, so I plug them in instead of horses.
Army is very small, home cons turned out to be 3+, masslow isn't leveled up, so I decide to start with the hives, take two - 6+6 and plan to break back home. Meanwhile, Tiris pops out of the teleport with decent stats and an army of 5-9 angels, 1-4 fire birds, 5-9 psychos, and a zoo with good combat stats. Great :(
I break into Castle with underleveled earth and prepare to lose in a max cons, but the last battle finally gives the coveted skill and the three lands are set without any issues.
Meanwhile Tiris, without a book (as the autopsy showed), got scared and broke back home :p
My Shiva flies toward two scouted cons and a Dragon Utopia with 3400 mp, picking up money banks along the way. But the cons turned out to be ones and there's nothing to do in a Dragon Utopia with such a set.
Plan changes - on Inferno there is another cons and a Dragon Utopia near the far corner village; eventually I break Shiva into Inferno, but I make a mistake by overestimating the army and rushing into a cons without checking it first as a zero-luck pawn. Naturally, it's a max one, the bot on quick loses without killing even half :D
With a heavy heart, I start fighting back and barely pull through, losing everything except 7 ruhs and 4 angels.
The mother gets some power delivered and dives into a two-star Dragon Utopia. They give her royal treatment: +2 all and КЗ :smile03:
But the opponent still has much more power; the plan is to demonize everything possible and field a hundred demons and archs on week 4.
Shiva runs to another corner village with 8 angels while the rest of the crew powers up demons in another corner of the map. In the corner, I found a one-star Dragon Utopia with a crown +4+4, which isn't too bad overall.
I TP home and with those same 8 angels run toward 2 more spotted Dragon Utopias (in the very back of a huge respawn).
In the first Dragon Utopia, jackpot on stats: +6 and +3 all and a sword +12 (there was no sword or pendant before this at all). In the end, the stats are already cosmic compared to the opponent's weak main.
The second Dragon Utopia gives an even more valuable air book + 2 two-star cons and an external dwelling of angels nearby.
In the end, on 145 we have Shiva 39 28 with 14 archs, 97 demons, 14 ruhs, 3 bears, and one-star sultans with full control and maximum movement allowance. :smile10:
I go visit the opponent; there's no one to meet me, the whole crew is wandering around the orange and purple respawn, no chains or control.
And on the next move, an unexpected finale happened:
My level 1 Eleshar with an arrow and 1+1+1+1+1+1+8 buddies against
level 1 Aeris with lightning and 4+4+4+3+3+3+3 fairies.
Completely unexpectedly, I managed to carry. Having lost a key hero and most of the army, the opponent surrenders! :smile03:
Thanks for the game!
Battle Report Accepted
Замок / Castle Faction Замок / Castle
Валеска / Valeska Start Hero Валеска / Valeska
Шива / Shiva Main Hero Шива / Shiva
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Сопряжение / Conflux Faction Сопряжение / Conflux
Random Start Hero Random
Тирис / Tyris Main Hero Тирис / Tyris
Map Template
8mm6a
Game Length
211 days
Game Date
2/16/2015
Reported
2/16/2015 11:49 AM
Rating Impact Archived
LeBron 1688 1706 +18 ↑
Palach HP 1764 1746 -18 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/23/2015 3:36 PM

In reply to Wicc
11 years ago
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Because it’s a deterrent template, with the presence of ranged units, just like, for example, Jebus, it requires a different, non-contact tactic.
And since when has “contact” become an attribute of HL+U? It always seemed to me that it was the opposite. Of course, when the layout and skill allow you to start clashing on turn 12, that’s cool, but if that’s the main goal, then take Jebus and L-Ks. By the way, on Nostalgia, control and FB are often found on turn 2.
Wicc

I have a total of 15-20 games, 5-7 of which are tournaments, and I dare say that the tactics-psychology there is typical for other XL units. At least, it is less similar to Jeb or Nost CM. Perhaps only to Mini-Nost, but even then, only partially.
And I don’t agree with that either. If there are no DD/flyers on turn 2, the game can start on turn 13. My sample, however, is about 5 games, but I have no doubt about the conclusions – few spawns and a lot of space lead to a long game.
But is it really necessary to reduce HL+U to the tempo of L?
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Wicc
I've played a total of 15-20 games, 5-7 of which were in tournaments, and I dare say that the tactics and psychology are typical for other XL maps. At least, it's less similar to Jeb or the CM map of Nost. Perhaps a bit like Mini-Nost, but only partially.
I think that on Big Nostalgia, it performs worse on roads compared to all other XL+U maps. When there was the last tournament on Nostalgia in OFB, people were really frustrated with it.

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