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Group stage tables.
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When will the group stage end?

Regarding draw results, either they need to be allowed, in which case I would like it if a draw awarded 1 point, and a win awarded 3, or they should be officially prohibited, and even if someone later tries to arrange a draw, they should know that they are playing unfairly.
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In all competitive sports, head-to-head results are prioritized when point totals are equal.
Can you provide examples of such disciplines? Specifically, those with a group stage. And why is it "in all" of them? In chess, the Buchholz score is used, and in football, the goal difference is considered, which is again a coefficient, not a head-to-head result.
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Dirty_Player
Can you give examples of such disciplines? Specifically, where there is a group stage. And why exactly in all of them? In chess, they use the Buchholz system, and in football, they consider the difference between goals scored and conceded, which is again a coefficient, not a head-to-head record.

In football, almost everywhere, head-to-head records are now prioritized over the goal difference. The same applies to handball, basketball, water polo, and so on. Regarding chess, I agree – if that's our benchmark, then there are no questions. In principle, it's logical. Heroes are closer to chess than to football ;)
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Thank you for playing.
Battle Report Accepted
Некрополь / Necropolis Faction Некрополь / Necropolis
Галтран / Galthran Start Hero Галтран / Galthran
Галтран / Galthran Main Hero Галтран / Galthran
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Крепость / Fortress Faction Крепость / Fortress
Тазар / Tazar Start Hero Тазар / Tazar
Тазар / Tazar Main Hero Тазар / Tazar
Map Template
Jebus Cross
Game Length
123 days
Game Date
1/26/2015
Reported
1/26/2015 2:19 PM
Rating Impact Archived
bubuch 1559 1581 +22 ↑
Dark 1753 1731 -22 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 1/28/2015 1:00 PM

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Every major tournament sparks a debate about this, and it seems like it's time to create a poll. The solution seems to be strict deadlines for each round, and in the final round, draws should only be decided by a judge's decision. Pit is too lenient; it's been a long time since everyone should have been given 0 points, or points should be awarded based on who initiated the save.
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I completely agree; moreover, it should be specified in the tournament rules who should play against whom, and this should be the default setting. Indeed, there have been many more people wanting to play in recent days; there was no opportunity for 3 months, but then it appeared on the last day. The situation with the "Fortress" is really funny; the person didn't find time to play their own games, and ironically, they are still advancing. Why even participate in the tournament if there isn't time to play those 5 games in 3 months??? (of course, if someone ended up in the hospital or had other life problems, then there are no complaints).
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skd
Group stages of all tournaments should be organized with a schedule for each round and results recorded after each round (as is done on Facebook), to avoid situations where one player has played all 5 matches, while another has played only one match, and can then calculate whether a draw with any of the other players is acceptable.

Exactly. Thanks to Romantic, all games are played on time, and there are no delays, even by a day, in 99.9% of cases.


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=Lizard=
In football, almost everywhere, head-to-head results are now prioritized over goals scored/conceded. As is the case in handball, basketball, water polo, etc. Regarding chess, I agree – if that's our benchmark, then there are no questions. In principle, it's logical. Heroes is closer to chess than to football ;)

Well, in that case, pre-arranged draws should be commonplace, and there would be nothing to discuss.
KobRa_RR
Exactly. Thanks to Romantic, all, absolutely all games are played on time, and there are no delays, not even by a day, in 99.9% of cases.
But here, thanks to Pete, some kind of chaos is happening.
Dirty_Player

In this tournament, there is only one administrator – Pete for LM, and he doesn't have much time right now to answer all the questions; I think he will update the tables tomorrow.
Tomorrow, Pete has already promised to announce the playoff draw.

And in general, if he doesn't have time, why not delegate authority to other members of the organizing committee? Dagr and Sam, unlike Pete, haven't disappeared; they have been responding to me. However, Sam said that he has no authority and cannot help me in any way. He can't set up tech support, he can't appoint a match administrator, he doesn't know when the round ends. It's some kind of nonsense.

P.S. Why am I the only one bothered by the lack of regulations?
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skd
Group stages of all tournaments should be organized with a schedule for each round and results recorded after each round (as is done on Facebook), so that there is no situation where one player has played all 5 matches, while the second player has played only one match, and then can calculate whether a draw with any of the players is acceptable or not.
KobRa_RR
Exactly. Thanks to Roman, all games are played on time, and there are no delays, even by a day, in 99.9% of cases.
Sanin

But here, thanks to Pete, some kind of chaos is happening.

It seems to me that the difference is this: Facebook is just one group, not 16 at the same time, so the workload is very different... Here, there was simply a slight overlap, so that towards the end of the tournament, the organizer was busy and couldn't focus on following up... :smile51:


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FB consists of 2 groups of 12 people, but here we have 16 groups of 96 people! That's 8 times more, which means we definitely need 8 responsible assistants with authority, but I think 4 people can also handle it if each takes 4 groups under their personal supervision. 64 people advance to the playoffs, so in principle, we also need a couple of people to keep things moving so that the other, more responsible people don't suffer!)


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skd
Group stages of all tournaments should be conducted with a schedule for each round and results recorded after each round (as is done on Facebook).
I think that group stages should be held in a double round-robin format.
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Why even participate in a tournament if you don't have time to play a measly 5 games in 3 months??? (of course, if someone ended up in the hospital or had other life problems, then there are no complaints).
I agree with this. I withdrew from the OFB because I couldn't play in the tournament due to defending my thesis; I was busy for 3 weeks.
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The following "favorites" need to be tested in a Swiss-system tournament "hosted by Vik"...
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I understand that I'm a newcomer and not even participating in the tournament. But why not make the top seed in the group responsible for running the rounds within that group? This person is usually well-respected, and everyone listens to them. And only if a very controversial situation arises should you contact the organizer.
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Does he even need it?

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