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SVAROG

1/22/2015 10:31 AM UTC

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Lim4

Between Defiant and PutinKing, there's an important match that will determine which players advance from the group – take it seriously. :)

I'm betting on a draw; it's just too tempting in this situation.

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Егор Коробейников

1/22/2015 12:41 PM UTC

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Graf_Bananov

I want to play all the games, but for some reason, the opponents from the group aren't very interested in that. I'm ready to play every day from 6:00 PM Kyiv time, and on weekends, we can arrange a time!

Okay, I'm also ready to play today. I messaged you the day before yesterday, but you were offline.

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_NEO_

1/22/2015 2:06 PM UTC

Due to a lack of free time, I won't be able to continue with the tournament!
Good luck to all the advancing players!

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Dark30

1/22/2015 2:35 PM UTC

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I've been observing, and tournaments seem like an interesting thing! At first, you refuse everyone's requests to play... then, you appear 2 days before the deadline, loudly announce that you're ready to play with everyone, and of course, everyone has their own things to do, technical times are set, and you're left waiting. How do you like this strategy? Perhaps the organizers need to describe the deadlines for intermediate games more specifically, because it really turns into a mess.

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Lim4

1/22/2015 4:19 PM UTC

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Dark30

I've noticed that tournaments are quite interesting! At first, you refuse everyone's requests to play... then, two days before the deadline, you start announcing that you're ready to play with everyone. Of course, everyone has their own things to do, technical times are set, and you're left waiting. How do you like this strategy? Perhaps the organizers need to describe the deadlines for intermediate games more clearly, because it really leads to nonsense.

It's easy to prove that you only started playing two days before the deadline, so it won't work. You'll have logs showing that you were offering to play, and the opponent was constantly refusing, even though they "woke up" two days before the end.

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And let's not forget that those who need it can request an ODD (Odd Day Delay). It's a convenient feature that helps avoid unnecessary stress.

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Niemand

1/22/2015 4:25 PM UTC

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In my opinion, it's easier to give 3-4 weeks for the tournament, and then, without reminders or other unnecessary things, set the tech choices. Provided that you don't forget about the tournament yourself...

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Graf_Bananov

1/22/2015 5:09 PM UTC

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Yegor Korobeynikov

Okay, I'm ready today too. I messaged you the day before yesterday, but you were offline.

Hi. I didn't receive your message; there might be something wrong with ICQ.

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I ask the group members to write on the forum or when they are online in ICQ.

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Palach HP

1/22/2015 7:29 PM UTC

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Again, regarding our situation in the group. I believe the judges are mistaken and demand a review of the situation. I will provide a couple of excerpts from the correspondence with the tournament arbitrator: 426409548 (22:23:21 14/01/2015) Hello, player cost, as I understand it, he doesn't intend to finish the stage. We made arrangements a couple of times, but he wasn't there, and he's generally a rare guest on ICQ. Pit (22:24:39 14/01/2015) Hello, I understood that. After that, player cost receives a win for free. I think he doesn't even know about it. But now, thanks to him (this single win), he will advance to the next stage. Having lost 2 matches and ignoring the tournament. Player Vinceras, having lost 4 matches, completed them a long time ago and within the deadline, but still cannot play against player cost because he is not available, and now, even if he beats him, he still won't be able to advance. Yes, he lost all his matches, but he deserves a chance, just like a mediocre student in school, and he deserves to play in the quarterfinals more than cost. But the judges are somehow rewarding the absentee. Now, regarding the situation, don't involve Berger in it. Most of the games have ended. And the places in the group should be determined as follows: 1 The, 2 Kashei, 3 my place, and 4 Vinceras, according to common sense, or a match between the absentee and him. Diablera's games are moved to the seasonal rating, and there can be no technical result. This is simply a mockery by the judges, giving technical wins in such a case.

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KobRa_RR

1/22/2015 7:57 PM UTC

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Ideally, if a player withdraws from a tournament, all their results should be annulled and set to zero; otherwise, we would be encouraging players who don't play until the very end, including those hoping for easy wins. And please, let's not use other sports as examples; we shouldn't be basing our decisions on anything other than common sense and fairness, otherwise, we might end up with the same circus as in one for aLL...).

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Lim4

1/22/2015 10:34 PM UTC

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Palach HP

Again, regarding our situation in the group. I believe the judges are mistaken and demand a review of the situation.
I will provide a couple of excerpts from the correspondence with the tournament arbitrator:
426409548 (22:23:21 14/01/2015)
Hello, player cost, as I understand it, he is not going to finish the stage, we agreed a couple of times - he was absent, and in general, he is a very rare guest on ICQ.
Pit (22:24:39 14/01/2015)
hello, I understood that

So, cost is already guilty just because third parties suspected him, and he is rarely on ICQ? What about the presumption of innocence?
It was Diabler who received the technical defeat because he had time for one more game, but he withdrew. Cost was just lucky that this game was against him. We cannot insist that he did not want to play a game with Diabler and, based on this, assign him 0 points, unless he admits it himself.

Palach HP

After that, player cost receives a win for free. I think he doesn't even know about it. But now, thanks to him (this one point), he will advance to the next stage, having lost 2 matches and giving up on the tournament.

How will he do that if he is disqualified? The remaining opponents will prove to the judges (not on the forum) that the player avoided games with them, and that's it.

Palach HP

Now, regarding the situation, do not associate Berger with it. Most of the games have ended. And the places in the group should be determined as follows: 1 The, 2 Kashei, 3 my place, and 4 Vinceras, judging by common sense, or a match between the absentee and them.

It is Berger and the points, because when Diabler's results are nulled (although it is strange to null 4 fully played games out of 5 possible), and, as you yourself suspect, all of Cost's results are nulled, three players in your group will immediately have 3 points and 4 KBs. This is unfair to those who have actually already played for 4 points.
Most likely, the places will be as they are (unless Cost suddenly reincarnates and makes adjustments), so there is no need to argue or worry.

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Dirty_Player

1/23/2015 1:44 PM UTC

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KobRa_RR

Ideally, if a player withdraws from a tournament, all their results should be annulled and set to zero; otherwise, we would be encouraging players who don't play until the very end, including those hoping for easy wins. And please, let's not use other sports games as examples; we shouldn't be guided by anything other than common sense and fairness; otherwise, we might end up with the same circus as in one for aLL...

Imagine this situation: Alex signed up for a tournament, won 3 games, and lost 1 to you, after which he withdrew. Would it be fair to annul all his results in this case? To prevent people from thinking and guessing about what is right and what is fair, there is a rule: If a withdrawing player has played less than 50%, they are excluded, and their results are annulled. If a withdrawing player has played 50% or more of the games, all results are preserved, and they receive technical losses for the games they did not play. We have been playing this way for years.