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#5906
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I still believe that having one topic for Mafia-related discussions is better than having seven separate topics for each game, as is done on other forums. That's just absurd and ruins the overall aesthetic.
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#5907
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Well, 7 topics are enough, and there’s no need to just hang them in the important “Poll” section. Instead, you can add the name of the faction and sort them by day. When this game is over, you just write the name of the next one, and there will be no problems or clutter.
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#5908
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Silent Flower

I haven't watched it yet, so I'm afraid of spoilers.
watch the videos, it's a game based on "Higurashi: When They Cry".
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#5909
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Someone who hasn't watched Higurashi,
Will never know,
That Hanyu can be ~~
Held firmly by the horns!
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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#5910
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Mika, you figured out the clue easily because you knew who it referred to. And remember how it was practically attributed to almost all the players.
А, вот почему.

??+⛓️♿=?
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#5911
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Drakkosha
Mika, you solved the clue easily because you knew who it referred to. But remember how it was practically attributed to almost all the players.
feedback, though ))) attributing it, yes, but there was no feedback, and here there was
dark fantasy-fantasy-books fantasy-mirror trianon
trianon zarzalie-fantasy-dark fantasy
although, yes, the GM doesn't always use feedback
Kosh, I'm not saying that you couldn't guess, but I'm saying that the second hint would have been fatal for me.
so, I chose a thematic quest in the cicadas (actually, when I was working on the quest here, I chose it as a weapon, and decided to choose it in the cicadas as well, in the theme of the hints being weapons)
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%EF%E0%F1%ED%E0%FF_%E1%F0%E8%F2%E2%E0
there are many facts, I don't want to make them up, whether it's 1 hint or 10.
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#5912
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Siverfale
If you haven't watched Higurashi,
You'll never know,
That Hanyu can be
Held firmly by the horns!
concerned!!
Mika, I actually have two strong objections to voting in a separate thread: 1) The GM will have to read "all this mountain of fluff" every time they enter the thread, and in the process, they may note changes in the votes and post "the latest rankings of candidates as of." And you will only have to scroll through the thread from the end to the GM's post with the results.

2) "Mafia-style manipulations" are much easier to disguise. Ask a player why they voted to execute X, and they'll say, "I don't remember, I justified my vote - look for it yourself."
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#5913
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oven666
Obsessed!!
Mika, I actually have two strong objections to voting in a separate thread: 1) The GM will have to read "all this mountain of chatter" every time they enter the thread, and in the process, they may note changes in the votes and post "the latest rankings of candidates as of." And you will only have to scroll through the thread from the end to the GM's post with the results.

2) "Mafia-related manipulations" are much easier to disguise this way. If you ask a player why they voted to execute X, and they say, "I don't remember, I explained my vote – you can find it yourself," that's...
What kind of nonsense is this? What does "I don't remember" mean? If you don't remember, hang yourself.... That's it. A peaceful player always remembers their reasons for voting. I haven't heard a more mafia-like answer yet. I'm voting for elimination just for that.

Oven, it's not about the results; they can be in any random order. It's about the time when someone voted. Later, you can analyze the thread and see what was happening at that moment, go through the players (for example, if Mika said throughout the game that he doesn't believe Oven, but suddenly voted for Kosh without explanation, then Mika will become a suspect). If you don't remember what was in the thread, you can simply look at the voting pattern. I found half of the mafia players by looking at the votes without newspapers in the game we just played. Again, it's important who started the leak, who added to it, when. Who switched sides when. The GM's results are just a line of statistics showing the votes for each candidate, and that's it.
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#5914
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mika
figured out the hint about himself pretty quickly
Yeah, and everyone else figured it out just as quickly, which is why they strung you up on your own gate on the third day. By order of the king. The very next day.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
mika
If all your newspapers are so obvious that even a Shaman could see through them
Yes, yes, so obvious that Koshu-mafa was immediately identified as a guaranteed mafia member...:D Where's the "obviousness" there? Witch's tea doesn't count. That really was a fail.:(

P.S. I remembered that in Mafia 55, besides me, two other guys from the same forum also showed up for ХВ. I stayed, but those two said that ХВ is :smile18:, there's no point in killing because opening Wikipedia and figuring out who the mafia is doesn't require much intelligence, blah blah blah...:mad: And all because the GM turned out to be Pobeditel, giving too easy clues. At the same time, they didn't even bother playing games with other GMs to adequately assess the level of clues. You have something similar going on, only in terms of newspaper clues.
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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Evil Lizard
At the same time, they didn't even bother to play games with other GMs to adequately assess the level of evidence.
Sorry, but the Shaman has a terrible reputation in the newspapers. And Drakkosha wasn't registered as Mafia only because she's an old-timer. There's no merit to the newspaper here. I've already said this, and I said it in the thread that the Leshy, who blocked himself at the end of the game, is nonsense. But some people, I won't point fingers, happily latched onto this version, saying, "Well... there are THREE!!! peaceful roles on her, even if she's not the Leshy." It's pointless to even try to refute such nonsense. And there's no need to deny that a newbie will be believed last. This is the case not only here, but everywhere.
And yes, Sesam, I read your legendary taboo. But I don't understand why you posted it. Because the posts in the thread somehow reek of double standards.
Quid legent hosce versu, mature censunto
Profanum vulgus et inscium ne attrectato:
Omnesque Astrologi Blenni, Barbari procul sunto
Qui aliter facit, is rite sacer esto
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Vall d'Emeroll
Sorry, but the Shaman has terrible leaks in the newspapers.
Please point it out. I can't see it at all.:confused: Besides tea, of course. But that was an oversight, not a "deliberate leak."
Vall d'Emeroll
And Drakkosha wasn't labeled as Mafia only because she's an old-timer.
Drakkosha wasn't labeled as Mafia because she was "blocked by the Mafia," and the Master who redirected her to himself was in the grave and couldn't say anything. In fact, when he crawled out of there, he was immediately labeled.:p And the fact that she wasn't immediately hanged... Well, they were looking for a maniac...:smile32:
Vall d'Emeroll
And there's no need to deny that a newcomer will be believed last. This, by the way, is not only the case here. It's like this everywhere.
I, for example, don't believe anyone. Neither newcomers nor "old-timers." Especially Tox. More precisely, I believe, but only those whose words don't contradict the facts. And "age" has nothing to do with it.:p
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Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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#5917
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Yashur, you seem to be writing everything correctly, expressing your opinion, etc. I agree with your arguments as a response to the dissenting posts of outsiders. After all, you shouldn't impose your own rules on someone else's territory, right? But! You shouldn't be too conservative. You need to be able to listen to criticism. Your own words: "...they didn't bother to play..." Here, Mika invited people to play on our forum. Isn't that a good option to try it out and then explain what is right/wrong, what you liked/didn't like?

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It's a different matter if a person doesn't want to hear anything and stubbornly sticks to their own opinion. Well... there's no arguing with that... Nothing can be done. And I told both Mika and Ovn that I am against pointless arguments for the sake of arguing.
Quid legent hosce versu, mature censunto
Profanum vulgus et inscium ne attrectato:
Omnesque Astrologi Blenni, Barbari procul sunto
Qui aliter facit, is rite sacer esto
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#5918
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Vall d'Emeroll
Sorry, but the Shaman has terrible performance in the newspapers. And Drakkosha wasn't included in the mafia only because she's an old-timer. There's no merit from the newspaper here. I've already said this, as I said in the thread, that Leshy, who blocked himself at the end of the game, is nonsense. But some people, I won't point fingers, happily latched onto this version, saying, "Well... there are THREE peaceful roles on her, even if she's not Leshy." It's pointless to even try to refute such nonsense. And don't deny that a newbie will be believed last. This is not just the case here; it's everywhere.
And yes, Sesam, I read your legendary tabu. But I didn't understand why you posted it. Because the posts in the thread somehow reek of double standards.
They didn't suspect it because she was an old-timer, but because the probability was low, less than yours of being a Fire Elemental. There's no need to make things up here; I'm only playing my second game, and I only had the GM as "my own."
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Vall d'Emeroll
It's a different matter when someone doesn't want to listen and stubbornly sticks to their own opinion.
Well... I think I already said why I don't like your suggestions... You say that "the newspapers are too obvious." You never explained what makes them "obvious." The examples from Miki's mod show that blind games are common there. And this is one of the two things I strongly disapprove of (the second is randomness). Hence the criticism and the unwillingness to "try," because I already know that I won't like it. Regarding talking at night and quests: if the GM will post quests, why not try; if you suggest ways to balance the set, taking into account talking at night, other than the "blind game" option, that's also worth a try. But I would like to note that clues on a profile are a perfectly normal thing, and the fact that Miki "easily guessed" himself doesn't mean anything. Others guess much less often, especially the person the clue is about.;) That's why I don't see the point in any quests.:smile32: As for talking at night... Sometimes you need to rest, otherwise you can go crazy from playing games. Night is a good time to rest.:)
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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#5920
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I'm also a newbie here. The first game was challenging, but I enjoyed it. After getting beaten by a troll, I immediately wanted to start creating settings ;). Unfortunately, there were some mistakes, but now I have experience. I'll try to create a better workflow next time so that everything looks good.

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