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I don't know. According to my records, a Knight cannot be a Warlord. But if, by some chance, he is, then the suicide of the Priest because of him will be on his conscience (for not warning him).

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Drakkosha
I don't care which of these two to hang. There are also some random, silent newbies running around, right? I can't keep track of them anymore.
No, it seems like Nefela is running around now.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
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Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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On the second night, the werewolf killed Naira with the help of the Guardian, and Ment was robbed. So, he is unlikely to be the werewolf, but there is a possibility that the Guardian swapped Ment and Naira.
I was thinking... This scenario is impossible because, in the case of a swap, the theft would also have been attributed to Naira. So:
1. Ment was not robbed.
2. He was redirected by the Wizard after the theft.
3. Ment is actually a peaceful character.:D
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

(Закон сохранения).
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This night was full of events.

but poor in corpses )))

The Voivode slept soundly all night, keeping his sword near his bed to be ready to repel any attack. But to his surprise, he wasn't the one who was attacked. Hearing a suspicious sound, he jumped out of bed and, grabbing his sword, rushed outside. Looking around, he saw that the Knight, who was bravely guarding the Master, had unexpectedly become the victim of an attack. A nondescript-looking man ran out of an alleyway and, at a run, plunged a dagger into his side, after which he disappeared. Fortunately, the blow hit a link of the chainmail, not reaching its target.
possibly, a clue is the chainmail link or the nondescript appearance
Alexeagle decided to visit the witch. She didn't refuse him a cup of tea.
The witch's apprentice had been collecting rare herbs for a long time. Having collected them, she threw them into the fire. The flame flared up with a green flash. "I wish to know the truth deeply, to dispel lies with the fire of illusions, tell me your truth and tell me about Mente!" she exclaimed. After her words, the smoke from the fire thickened and formed into words:
1. Is there mental magic? No. it can't be a lie because otherwise it's a paradox, a peaceful mafia
2. Are you peaceful? Yes. if it's a lie, then only a werewolf
3. Are you mafia? Yes.
After that, she wanted to do something else, but she was distracted by a charming melody. In the night silence, a minstrel was playing, and the smooth transitions of his guitar captivated the ear. Only closer to morning, he got tired of playing and left the village.
this is unclear (( if the bard was blocking her, she couldn't have conducted a poll or a double night kill. The tea from the witch gives the opportunity to create a shadow clone, like in Naruto, and while the bard is singing a serenade, the clone conducts the poll, and the real apprentice does her own thing?? Then it's cool! Then the mafia blockers are in Aetherion!!!!
Drakkosha was walking carelessly in the night silence. Suddenly, her attention was drawn to a mysterious glow from the forest. Out of curiosity, she went towards it and didn't notice how she got lost in the swamp. She wandered around it for a long time and almost drowned. Fortunately, the Witch found her and brought her home.
this is clear - the light was blocking her))) so Kosha is not from the mafia!!
For the first time in a while, an article appeared in the newspaper "Herald of Starolesye" on beech boards, it was scratched:
"Trust Mente! Always trust Mente!"
Santa Claus.
Boo-ga-ga
The herbalist spent the whole night in the forest collecting rare herbs; she took a great risk, but her risk was rewarded; she found many rare ingredients and happily returned home.
With that, the night's events ended. A tired owl met the sunrise with a sleepy gaze.
I don't understand what this is? An unsuccessful assassination attempt?
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It's clear – her "spark" was blocking him))) so Kosha isn't one of the Mafia!
She could very well be a Bard.

In short, execute the Heroes player instead of the Mentalist.
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

(Закон сохранения).
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There is no healing for the Shaman.
He most likely banished the disease.
But the interview (I note, it was a structured interview, so you can't nitpick the meaning of the questions) proved that Ment is not Mafia.
Shall we hang Yashur for his brazen and stupid attack? There's nothing else to do anyway.
Now, for me, Snowman can only be a Mafia partner to Ment... Fire Elemental or Bard?

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oven666Snowman, you're acting suspiciously again: Tox can't be Mafia, at least because Bard tried to persuade him to join the "good guys" on the first night!

But the fact that you suggested it first, doesn't that mean anything? Or was it not you, I don't remember anymore.
I suggested the opposite, that Tox is peaceful because he was urgently replaced with a Guardian, while a Mafia member could have been left unchanged - his night actions might be directed towards his teammates. But then you started arguing that "he wasn't replaced so urgently." In short, lies and distortions are a sign of Mafia!!
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In short, execute the Heroes player instead of Ment.
Forget about this Heroes player. Okay, I'll support the idea of executing the Heroes player for now.
Although, I'm more interested in learning about Olam's role.

By the way, I also don't understand why there's a paragraph about the Herbalist in the newspaper. If she was at home and didn't use any non-deterministic actions, why describe it in the newspaper?
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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It's clear - her "fire" was blocking him))) so Kosha isn't one of the Mafia!
She could very well be a Bard.

In short, execute the "Heroes" player instead of the "Mentalist".
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Three ha-has! The Bard blocked the journalist today - which means no one redirected or blocked him, but Kosha was blocked by "fire," the third Mafia member - a werewolf - was fighting a knight in front of the warlord. Conclusion: Kosha isn't Mafia, but you and the snowman are, it seems.

I understand - you're barking for show so people don't think you're on the same team, but at the same time, you're trying to confuse the town... You could come up with something smarter - it's too obvious!! The overly zealous defenses are prompting me to overlook the lack of evidence and declare "Death to the Mentalist!"
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1. Is there mental magic? No.
2. Are you a peaceful player? Yes.
3. Are you Mafia? Yes.
But why wouldn't a peaceful Mental Priest (Warlord) answer yes-yes-no? With such answers, he wouldn't have any Mafia role candidates. It's all strange...

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Owen, read the Night Phase rules. The Bard could have blocked Alex and gone to the swamp.
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

(Закон сохранения).
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Three ha-has! The Bard blocked the journalist today – which means no one redirected or blocked him, but Kosha blocked Ogonёk, and the third Mafia member – the Werewolf – fought with the Knight in front of the Warlord. Conclusion: Kosha is not Mafia, but you and the Snowman are, apparently.
Your strange conclusions probably mean that you didn't understand the sequence of actions. It's a pity, but just in case, I recommend reading it again. At least points 14 and 16, to understand what Zlobny is talking about.
Sequence of actions:
0. 3rd activation of the Berserk Night Defense of the Warlord.
1. Vigilance check. (Displayed if the block is removed) Potion of protection against blocking - Herbalist. (displayed)
2. Night Defense of the Librarian.
3. Sleepiness of the Witch Apprentice. (Displayed if successful)
4. Night Defense of the Sorcerer. (Displayed nicely)
5. Night Defense of the Leshy (displayed nicely) \ Night Defense of the Mystic Swamp.
6. Night Defense of the Scribe.
7. Bereginya - swap places.
8. Night Defense of the Warlord (displayed if activated) \ Night Defense of the Knight.
9. Cause Confusion - Witch. (Displayed)
10. Authority of the Priest (not displayed) \ Write an article in the newspaper.
11. Domovoy - isolation. (Displayed)
12. Cast Fog - Volkhv. (Not displayed)
13. Redirect the Sorcerer (Not displayed)
14. Charm the Bard. (displayed)
15. Block - Leshy. (displayed if successful)
16. Hypnotize Ogonёk. (Displayed if successful)
17. Protect the Leshy from the plague (Not displayed) \ Protect the Knight (displayed if successful) \ Protect the Bereginya from magic. (displayed if successful)
18. Banish the disease - Volkhv. (Displayed if successful) \ Potion of the Herbalist - Cure the disease. (Displayed)
19. Discover the secret.
20. Voice theft by the Mermaid. \ Night Defense of the Mermaid
21. Warlord – Berserk. (displayed in any case) \ Tea from the Witch. (Displayed)
22. Infect the Knight. (Not displayed)
23. Cast Beast from the Sorcerer. \ Werewolf - any Night Defense
24. Domovoy - Sense. (Not displayed)
25. Perun's Priest - attack.
26. Activate the Knight's infection. (Displayed)
27. Lure into the Abyss - Mermaid. \ Lure into the Swamp - Ogonёk.
28. Invigorating Rhythm of the Bard (not displayed) \ Magical attack of the Bard.
29. Night Defense of the Witch. (Not displayed) \ Healing of the Volkhv. (displayed if successful) \ Healing Potion - Herbalist (displayed) \ Seal of the Sorcerer. (displayed if successful)
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Unfortunately, according to my list, I have quite a few candidates for the werewolf role, but considering their "psychology," I've narrowed it down to two most likely candidates: Nefela and Olam Havel.
Awesome! I haven't written a single message, and they've already figured me out! I want that too! Teach me how...
But, to be honest, I don't have anything to say right now. I haven't fully grasped the setting yet, and I don't really have a table yet, and my chat buddies aren't sharing theirs ((
Каждому будет дано по его вере

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This night was full of events. The Warlord slept soundly all night, keeping his sword near his bed to be ready to repel any attack. But to his surprise, the attack wasn't directed at him. Hearing a suspicious sound, he jumped out of bed, grabbed his sword, and rushed outside. Looking around, he saw that the Knight, who was bravely guarding the Master, had unexpectedly become the victim of an attack. A man of unremarkable appearance ran out of an alleyway and, at full speed, plunged a dagger into his side, then disappeared. Fortunately, the blow hit a link in the chainmail, not reaching its target.
Can someone explain why the Shaman burned the Mafia's role as the attacked and how the Warlord is involved in the attack, considering that, according to the beginning of the description, he used his night defense on himself?

There might not be a part of the night defense because the Bard used his ultimate ability.

Regarding the executions - if I understood the newspaper correctly, the Heroist shouldn't be executed at all.
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But why wouldn't a peaceful Ment-Priest (Warlord) answer yes-yes-no? With such answers, he wouldn't have any mafia roles-candidates. It's all so strange...

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Oven, read the order of Night Actions. The Bard could have easily blocked Alex and gone to the swamp.
Lizard and Sesam, are you trying to say that an unsuccessful block equals a successful block? What is an unsuccessful block then? Is it when the blocker dies on the way? Probably from laughing! Read carefully!!!

16. Hypnosis of the Firefly. (Displayed in case of success)
We know that the Bard performed a successful Night Action - he prevented the witch's apprentice, who was given a speed boost with tea, from conducting two investigations... We know that the Firefly performed a successful Night Action against Kosha - he lured her to the swamp and kept her there. We know that the Werewolf performed his Night Action, and only the Knight's protection stopped it, not a block. All three mafia members made their moves, and no one stopped them, and you continue to insist that Kosha, who was blocked by the Firefly, is a mafia member? Read the newspaper again. The Bard performed his action, the Werewolf performed his, and the Firefly performed his, and the Firefly's action is only reflected in the newspaper if it was successful!!! If he successfully blocked Kosha, and the Bard blocked Alex, then how can the Bard be Kosha? Explain? If you believe that the entries in the newspaper should be interpreted contrary to logic, like this: "If a blocker comes to block a blocker who has already performed his block this night, the second blocker's block should be considered successful (despite its meaninglessness)," then we can develop this thought: if a killer comes to kill a person who was killed in the same night by another killer, then this kill (of a corpse) should also be considered successful (and leave clues!) :smile09: In short, if before I thought the Hero was a mafia member (based on the first investigation, 1/3), and the Snowman (based on his behavior), now I am increasingly convinced of the Hero's innocence and of the Ment's mafia membership (who some are so actively defending) and of one of you:smile48: I just don't understand yet who of you is a mafia member and who is just a little bit slow.

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Can someone explain why the Shaman revealed the ROLE of the attacked person to the mafia, and how the Warlord is involved in the attack, who, according to the beginning of the description, used his Night Action on himself?
plus a question
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Yashur and Sesam, are you trying to say that a failed block equals a successful block? What exactly is a failed block?
Yes, the GM told me exactly that – regardless of whether the block was successful or not, it is considered successful if it was used on a player who used their Night Defense that night. But you can ask him yourself.
You should clarify with him whether killing someone counts as a successful kill.

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Can someone explain why the Shaman revealed the Mafia role of the attacked player and how the warlord is involved in the attack, considering that, according to the beginning of the description, he used his Night Defense on himself?
Or maybe not the Mafia, but the redirector. Although, of course, it's still a strange move.
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Part of the Night Defense might be missing because the Bard used his ultimate.

Regarding the executions – if I understood the newspaper correctly, Heroist shouldn't be executed at all.
I don't see the Bard's ultimate. As expected, he blocked one Alex.
To be honest, I don't care whether it's Heroist or Olam. They both fit the same town roles for me. So, at least for the sake of information, it would be good to find out the role of one of them.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Can someone explain why the Shaman burned the Mafam in the role of the defender and how the warlord is involved in the attack, considering that, according to the beginning of the description, he used his own spell on himself?
The warlord slept soundly all night, keeping his sword near his bed to be ready to repel any attack. But to his surprise, the attack wasn't directed at him. Hearing a suspicious sound, he jumped out of bed, grabbed his sword, and rushed outside. Looking around, he saw that the Knight, who was bravely guarding the Master, had unexpectedly become the victim of an attack. A nondescript-looking man ran out of an alley and stabbed him in the side with a dagger, then disappeared. Fortunately, the blow hit the chainmail, not reaching its target.
I think someone just read the newspaper a little carelessly and confused the Knight and the Warlord, and then equated one of them to the Master.
Каждому будет дано по его вере

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and you keep insisting that the Cat, who is blocked by the Fireball, is a Mafia member?
There's no need to distort what was said. Personally, I only claim that she might be a Mafia member.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.

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