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Posts from Appeals Committee. Disputed situations in tournaments.

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Dirty_Player
Why all of a sudden? :confused:
Attention! The AK doesn't even know its own rules.
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11 years ago
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Satyr
Turns out Dirty himself doesn't know the rules! :smile07: And who are the judges?
Well, I'm not obligated to know them by heart. In any case, if a dispute arises in the game, I always refer to the rules.

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Juristis
Attention! The AK doesn't know its own rules.
I allow myself to be replaced by a more competent specialist.
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Dirty_Player
Well, I'm not obligated to know them by heart. In any case, if there's a dispute in the game, I always refer to the rules.

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I'm happy to step aside and let a more competent person take over.
I'm ready to take on this responsibility.
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I allow you to replace me with a more competent specialist.
Now there will be plenty of candidates :)
Oh, there's already one "rules expert" :D
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Juristis
I'm happy to take on this responsibility.
If the tournament organizers don't mind, I'm happy to step aside and let you judge. If the other members of the Tournament Committee don't object, I'm happy to relinquish my position (although a vacancy will soon open up in the Tournament Committee anyway).
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Dirty_Player
If the tournament organizers don't mind, I'm happy to step aside and let you judge. If the other members of the Tournament Committee don't object, I'm happy to give up my spot (although there will soon be a vacancy in the Tournament Committee anyway).
Only after the VCL (Vote of Confidence League):)
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11 years ago
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Leaving isn't necessary. But you should definitely give it a try and see what this "mess" is all about. You need to sort through the saves and neutralize those annoying little monsters. It's not as easy as it seems. And it remains to be seen how much motivation the initiator will have :D
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Satyr
Turns out Dirty didn't even know the rules himself! :smile07: And who are the judges?
The rule was published on the forum at this link on June 18, 2014; before that, I posted it in AK.
Kostya was a bit busy at that time.
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11 years ago
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Sloth_D
I've been reading here about the insistence on replaying turns because of an alleged hit-run.
We're doing great... :smile13:
I am amazed how someone, having been in the same situation (Dragon Utopia) and feeling all the cretinism of the person insisting on a replay for Dragon Utopia, can repeat this against another opponent.
The tournament isn't for money, and it's not even certain that a title will be awarded, so why engage in this filth? Moreover, to do it consciously, knowing exactly how the opponent will feel.
On stream, togonash entered the mill without breaking through the guards, then worried about it, but didn't write гг and didn't tell the opponent. In other words, it's not a matter of principle, but simply dirty play. No fair play at all, tearing throats out for a victory in a fan tournament with no prize. :smile12:

I read a quote in someone's signature saying that the Heroes community is built on trust and understanding. True story... or not?
Firstly, such a case occurred only in fun games, as far as I remember, just 1 time. And that specific turn was replayed. So don't write as if you are the final authority on the matter. Meaning, are you accusing me of dirty play? I want to hear a clear and distinct answer: "yes" or "no", and then we can talk about the substance: who is what.
11 years ago
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It seems that the rules in general, and the section about "fair play" in particular, need to be revised...
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Dagr
...and the clause about "fair play" needs to be revised...
What's wrong with him?
11 years ago
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At a minimum, it should be stated what constitutes fair play and what elements it includes. The current wording is somewhat vague...
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Toganash
Firstly, such a case happened only once, if I remember correctly, and only in a fan-made game. And that turn was replayed. So, don't write as if it's the ultimate truth. That is, are you accusing me of playing dirty? I want to hear a clear and concise answer: "yes" or "no," and then we can talk about the specifics: who is who.

I apologize for answering a question addressed to someone else. If you're not interested in my answer, just ignore it.

My answer is yes :)

Well, more precisely, the question itself isn't entirely correct: I'm not authorized to accuse you in principle. But yes, I consider your action to be dirty play. And it looks even worse considering that you were on the other side and didn't like it. Nevertheless, even knowing firsthand what it's like, you decided to engage in this...

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Dagr
At the very least, define what constitutes fair play and what elements it includes. Because the current wording is somewhat vague...

Maybe also define what "game" is, what "elements" are, what "wording" is, and what "define" means? Don't take things to the extreme...
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fil0sof
I apologize for answering a question addressed to someone else. If you're not interested in my answer, just ignore it.
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To put it simply, you haven't figured out this situation at all. Both I and Lizard resolved everything ourselves, and it was a mutual decision. Moreover, it's unclear what you're trying to achieve. When you talk about the mill situation, you don't have the facts, and you're relying on possible memories. And that situation with Darkello is very different from this one with Lizard. It seems like you just decided to show off and play the role of someone who knows the truth. It looks disgusting when the rivals have already resolved everything themselves and haven't spoken about it for a long time, and someone is trying to gain a reputation by scavenging. But tell me, what name do you consider worthy? In general, you should just ignore people like you.
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Let's start by saying that I didn't resort to personal attacks, and I hope you won't either in the future. I don't know what you decided, I didn't observe your private conversations, I only saw the situation as described by Lizard and expressed my thoughts on the matter. Regarding the mill situation, I apologize if I wasn't tactful enough in my statements. I didn't mean to say anything about that episode because, as you rightly pointed out, I have no information about it. When I talked about unfair play, I meant the principle of "they treated me in a way I didn't like, so I called for justice on the forum, didn't achieve justice, and decided to do the same thing myself, i.e., do what I just verbally condemned." I don't even want to comment on the statements about "reputation." If you seriously believe that you can gain "reputation" in some forum discussion... In short, if the conversation has turned into unproductive arguments and personal insults, I don't see any point in continuing it. You and Lizard have come to an agreement – great. If you believe you are right and will continue to do so, good for you, keep it up. I don't have much more to say in this situation

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