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The time has come and so... drumroll... the qualifying tournament for FB-8 is declared open :smile44:

I. Regulations and Deadlines

The qualifying tournament will be held using the "Swiss" system

Start of the tournament: April 1, 2014; registration until March 29, 2014 inclusive

Time limit per round: 2 weeks - technical losses will be assigned without regard to opinions or authority (the sole exception is CIS-14 in Minsk)
Players have the right to arrange a convenient time among themselves, but if an agreement cannot be reached, the critical time for playing is the night from Saturday to Sunday of the first week. (if the game was not completed in one session, then during the second week). In case one player fails to show up at the set time, the other must write to the organizer or one of the judges, and when the tech result is assigned, this will be the main argument.
This clause is not subject to discussion.

7 players advance to the final stage.

II. Rules and Templates.

1. By default, games are played according to /topic/10593/
2. By default, the game version is SoD 3.2 (4.0); by mutual agreement, WT or any other version of HOMM3.

3.The template for each round will be determined as follows - during registration, each participant must indicate 5 favorite templates; from all these templates, 9 will be selected (depending on the number of participants and the number of rounds, respectively). Then the selected templates are randomly "shuffled" and a list is compiled (e.g., 1-2sm4d3, 2-mininoszta, 3-Jebus Cross, 4-skirmish, etc.). In the 1st round, players ban templates that "came up" under numbers 1, 2, 3 (i.e., banning occurs from 2sm4d3, mininoszta, and Jebus Cross). In the next round, banning occurs from templates 2, 3, 4 (mininoszta, Jebus Cross, skirmish), etc. In the last 7th (9th) round, banning will occur from templates 7 (9), 1, 2. Red starts the ban

4. Town selection: standard ban. Blue starts the ban. Colors are determined during the draw and do not change with restarts.

A win awards 1 point, a draw 0.5, a loss 0.
The winners, and accordingly those who qualify for FB, will be 7 people.
The winner is determined by the total number of points scored. In case of a tie in points, additional tiebreakers apply.
1) Buchholz Coefficient
2) Head-to-head result

III. Organizational Matters
1. The tournament is official and regular.
2. The tournament is conducted according to the Rules for Organizing, Conducting, and Participating in Tournaments.
3. Tournament Host: zloi_romantic (296524052)
Tournament Judges: Pit for LM (471401475), Dirty_Player (ICQ 408722873).
4. For each game played, participants must submit a report and confirmation.
5. Saves of all games must be kept until the end of the tournament and presented at the first request of the tournament hosts or any AC member.
6. Regarding controversial issues, if any arise, please discuss them outside the forum. To resolve them, contact the host or a tournament judge via ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.
The judges' decision is made primarily based on the tournament rules. If the situation that arises is not regulated by the rules, then the judges will be guided by basic logic and gaming ethics.
7. All tournament games count towards the season rating. Reports and confirmations are written in this thread and will be copied to the "Game Reports and Confirmations Online" thread. I.e., there is NO need to duplicate reports in the seasonal thread.
8. The final part of the tournament will be held using a round-robin system.

IV. Participants
1. Experienced players from HW and other gaming resources are invited to the tournament.
2. Newcomers who have shown good results are allowed (applications will be considered on an individual basis).
3. Newly registered players are not allowed to participate in the tournament (exception: active players from other gaming resources; applications will be considered on an individual basis).
4. Players who have a BWP are not eligible to participate in the tournament. If any player is awarded a BWP during the tournament, they will be disqualified and their results annulled.
5. Applications from undisciplined players who have repeatedly "ditched" tournaments may be rejected.
6. The organizers reserve the right to refuse a user participation in the tournament without publicly explaining the reasons.
7. The Winner and 2nd-3rd place finishers of the FB-7 tournament are NOT allowed to participate in the qualifiers.
8. The tournament application must include:
- 5 most favorite templates
- convenient time for playing

9. Players Gomunguls, Aya, Maretti advance to FB-8 without a qualifier, while players Piterius and LeBron have a bonus of a byeslot for 1 round (if, of course, they wish to participate)

The randomizer arranged the templates as follows
1-2sm4d3
2-Spider
3-skirmish (played according to OFB rules, i.e., with a town ban and no color change, but by mutual agreement you can play according to seasonal rules, i.e., allrandom)
4-6lm10a
5-JC
6-8mm6a
7-anarchy
8-diamond
9-Mini nostalgia

Thus, in the 1st round Red starts the ban from templates - 2sm4d3, Spider, skirmish
In the 2nd round, the ban proceeds from templates Spider, skirmish, 6lm10a
In all rounds, Red starts the template ban

I repeat for everyone - if you have a problem with your opponent (cannot find a common time, being ignored, etc.), write to me on ICQ - we will sort it out
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It seems you have some kind of obsession – you constantly think that someone is trying to favor someone else. First, you claimed that we were favoring Hell and Cobra, then Cobra and Bubucha, and now it's just Cobra. Don't play the victim of judges' bias, because you are far from being innocent yourself.
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Весна 2012.
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rebellious

p.p.s. Koberu was offered the option to play a new game in FB even before all this, but he bravely refused, suggesting three games, and immediately admitting that it was a joke.

I just imagined for a second how much real time we would spend playing these three games, and it scared me... :D Consider that I just cast a line, and you didn't take the bait. The main thing is that you yourself admitted that you had no chance in this game:

your post in OFB8:
rebellious

My chances of winning after save 242 have decreased. And, perhaps, my maximum in the game is half a point.
your post in FB8:
rebellious
I told you that you wouldn't get any easy points from me in the results chart?

Putting it all together, we get a clear picture..
It's never too late to admit defeat, Reb, it will be fair to yourself. Or we can finish playing, as I have been insisting all this time.


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rebellious
Why was it acceptable in this game to award a victory after the time limit expired, especially at a relatively early stage of game 131?
The next round requires all results to be submitted.
rebellious
Why wasn't a victory awarded in my game after a much later time limit expired in game 217?
It's the last round, so there's plenty of time to finish playing.
rebellious
Or is that what it's called now?
I'm just curious, what would you have said if the judges had given the victory to Cobra at the time of the first award? You seem CONVINCED that it was a draw. What if Cobra now complains and says that he had a winning situation, but the evil judges are favoring rebellious?
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A very strange decision to carry over results from one tournament to the next and to expand the number of participants in the Factions Battle. Those who scored 6 points are probably happy with this scheme. This doesn't negate the fact that Rebe is an amateur at dirty tactics, and the scheme of "we'll play on the last Saturday, or else..." (especially if he knows that you can't play then and doesn't care that there was or is plenty of time to play before that) has already been tested by him.
Не бійся коли ти один, бійся коли ти нуль.

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Dirty_Player
The draw for the next round requires all results.
Finally, the key idea that characterizes any tournament has been expressed – the completion of the event. A new event can take place only when the previous one is completed.
Otherwise, it can be paraphrased as follows: the FB can begin when the OFB is completed.
This is the last round, so it is quite possible to give time for the game to be finished.
This is unfair and puts the participants from other rounds in unequal conditions, when their tech points were counted due to lack of time.
I am just curious, what would you have said if the judges had awarded the victory to Cobra at the time of the first decision? Why are you SO CONVINCED that there was a draw?
Did I dispute the result anywhere or was I going to dispute it? After the first save at 217, I had an advantage, which Cobra himself acknowledged. And if the judges had not started to make incomprehensible decisions at that time, it would have all ended long ago. The judges should have calmly treated the game as one of hundreds in the tournament, thereby showing that they put all participants in the same conditions. But the judges immediately took off their blindfolds and began to see that the game was important, decisive, the most interesting, a decoration – they attached labels, which ultimately led them to cognitive dissonance in the form of a conditional draw.
Gunnar, a level 20-something with a full set of artifacts and control, expert air, is talking about something.
Summer 2013


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This doesn't change the fact that Rebe enjoys dirty matches and the scheme of "we'll play on the last Saturday or at your convenience" (especially if he knows you can't play then and doesn't care that there was or is plenty of time to play before) has already been tested by him.
Here, I'll answer you... You haven't even added dirty tech pauses and dirty redraws yet ;)
In reality, this all fits into standard game schemes. You just haven't figured it out yet. You have your free days, and I have mine. We are equalized by the scheduled Saturday. And it's not me personally setting the conditions. "Or this tournament isn't for you."
Now think about it, use logic, and consider what reasons might be behind the scheme of "we'll play on the last Saturday or at your convenience." You might think that I'm setting up a tech pause, and you're really afraid. And when I suggest you give up, and you suddenly agree, why would I refuse? It's just a childish tactic to intimidate. And you see it as a dirty scheme :)
Summer 2013


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rebellious
If I offer you to surrender, and you suddenly agree, why should I refuse? It's just a scare tactic, like a child's game. But you see it as a dirty scheme :)
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Весна 2012.
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You know, I also didn't see a single word in the rules for registering for the "War of the Magi" tournament about the fact that players who are eliminated can return to the tournament in the order of a "live queue" for "dead souls." I think this is a blatant violation of all the rules! (the very rules that you are talking about here :smile04: ) What nonsense, please calm down your democratically oppressed consciousness :smile36:
First, this is an experimental tournament, meaning the rules are being written as we go. I remember that in Terra dei Demoni, I even replaced the template during the tournament, and that was normal.

Second, I made all (or almost all) of the changes during the first round, and the rules have not changed since then.

Third, players only return in the order of replacing players who have suddenly dropped out. That is, the total number of slots remains unchanged, and the tournament is not extended. Therefore, for those who are going through the losers' bracket (and the main contenders for victory usually pass the first rounds without defeats), there is no difference - there will be a couple more games in the losers' bracket instead of those results ...

And fourth, no one was dissatisfied with this rule. Only The_ expressed dissatisfaction, but not with the rule itself, but with the way it was applied.

In general, in my opinion, it is possible to change the rules during a tournament in the following cases:

1) An error or omission in the rules is discovered.
2) There is no injured party (both disputants agree, or the dispute has not yet arisen).
3) There is no other way to resolve the controversial situation.

In the case under consideration, none of the points are met.

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I am also very "pleased" by posts like this:
KobRa_RR
when a person deliberately or accidentally takes from half an hour to an hour for each turn, even I (not the fastest player in the world :D) understand that something is wrong here...
злой_романтик
Don't pretend to be a victim of judicial arbitrariness, because you yourself are far from sinless.


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Roger DAltavilla
The AK decided that such a complex and intense match, with mutual chances, would be a decoration for the Forum Battles. And it would simply be a pity to leave such an interesting match without a result. Too much heroic sweat was shed over this Spider.
With good intentions... in the end, this match became a decoration for the Forum, and the main heroic sweat was shed over the "Reply" button.
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Hell, you're getting the tournaments a bit mixed up. You should understand the difference between an official tournament like the Champions League and something like the First Channel Cup.
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Осень-Зима 2013-14.
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I'm not mixing anything up; the Champions League is a different story, as it involves a financial aspect. These two tournaments, however, are both based on voluntary participation and without any monetary reward. The only difference lies in the so-called "prestige" associated with an established and well-regarded tournament. However, the format of this tournament is constantly changing, and we have to adapt to the situation in many aspects.
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Well, constantly, starting from the very first FB, the tournament discredits itself as a top-tier and exemplary one on HeroesWorld. Something needs to change...
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I'm not mixing anything up; the Champions League is a different story; it has a financial aspect. These two tournaments are both on a voluntary basis and without a monetary equivalent for the reward. The only difference is in the so-called "prestige," as it's an old, established tournament. However, the tournament format is constantly changing, and you have to adapt to the situation in many respects.
What does your withdrawal, Hell, and the change of a significant point in the regulations have to do with it? I don't think anyone has anything against you or accuses you of withdrawing. Complaints on this topic should be directed at the organizers.
I already gave an example earlier about, let's say, apartment quotas! You come, join the queue, you're eighth, and they tell you, "You know you're eighth, and according to the rules, only 7 will get quotas." You turn around and leave, and then on the last day of the 90-day period, the quota is increased to 9, and you find out about it later (after everything is over) – it's an unpleasant situation, right? In this case, people usually write complaints :) and I'll say more, these complaints have results in the form of punishment for those responsible :cool:

лето 2012.
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constantly, starting from the first FB, the tournament discredits itself as a top-tier and exemplary one on HeroesWorld. something needs to be changed...
The issue is not with the tournament, but with the people, mainly those involved in its organization. I don’t want to offend anyone, but I support Rebellius’s claim that he should continue the game in FB that was started in OFB.
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My Facebook post was deleted; they could have just moved it to the forum or here. I'll try to repeat my question.
Rebel, have you noticed that in most tournaments you participate in, some problems occur, and specifically with you, and this has been happening since Heroes of Might and Magic?
Maybe it's time to think about this and change something about yourself, instead of blaming the Tournament Committee or someone else?
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My Facebook post was deleted, they could have just moved it to the forum or here. I'll try to repeat my question.
Rebel, have you noticed that in most tournaments you participate in, some problems occur, and specifically with you, and this has been happening since Heroes of Might and Magic?
Maybe it's time to think about it and change something about yourself, instead of blaming the tournament committee or someone else?
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And regarding Darkello's post, where did you see anything about my withdrawal? I was going to withdraw anyway, are you even following the tournament and what people are writing?

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