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The time has come and so... drumroll... the qualifying tournament for FB-8 is declared open :smile44:

I. Regulations and Deadlines

The qualifying tournament will be held using the "Swiss" system

Start of the tournament: April 1, 2014; registration until March 29, 2014 inclusive

Time limit per round: 2 weeks - technical losses will be assigned without regard to opinions or authority (the sole exception is CIS-14 in Minsk)
Players have the right to arrange a convenient time among themselves, but if an agreement cannot be reached, the critical time for playing is the night from Saturday to Sunday of the first week. (if the game was not completed in one session, then during the second week). In case one player fails to show up at the set time, the other must write to the organizer or one of the judges, and when the tech result is assigned, this will be the main argument.
This clause is not subject to discussion.

7 players advance to the final stage.

II. Rules and Templates.

1. By default, games are played according to /topic/10593/
2. By default, the game version is SoD 3.2 (4.0); by mutual agreement, WT or any other version of HOMM3.

3.The template for each round will be determined as follows - during registration, each participant must indicate 5 favorite templates; from all these templates, 9 will be selected (depending on the number of participants and the number of rounds, respectively). Then the selected templates are randomly "shuffled" and a list is compiled (e.g., 1-2sm4d3, 2-mininoszta, 3-Jebus Cross, 4-skirmish, etc.). In the 1st round, players ban templates that "came up" under numbers 1, 2, 3 (i.e., banning occurs from 2sm4d3, mininoszta, and Jebus Cross). In the next round, banning occurs from templates 2, 3, 4 (mininoszta, Jebus Cross, skirmish), etc. In the last 7th (9th) round, banning will occur from templates 7 (9), 1, 2. Red starts the ban

4. Town selection: standard ban. Blue starts the ban. Colors are determined during the draw and do not change with restarts.

A win awards 1 point, a draw 0.5, a loss 0.
The winners, and accordingly those who qualify for FB, will be 7 people.
The winner is determined by the total number of points scored. In case of a tie in points, additional tiebreakers apply.
1) Buchholz Coefficient
2) Head-to-head result

III. Organizational Matters
1. The tournament is official and regular.
2. The tournament is conducted according to the Rules for Organizing, Conducting, and Participating in Tournaments.
3. Tournament Host: zloi_romantic (296524052)
Tournament Judges: Pit for LM (471401475), Dirty_Player (ICQ 408722873).
4. For each game played, participants must submit a report and confirmation.
5. Saves of all games must be kept until the end of the tournament and presented at the first request of the tournament hosts or any AC member.
6. Regarding controversial issues, if any arise, please discuss them outside the forum. To resolve them, contact the host or a tournament judge via ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.
The judges' decision is made primarily based on the tournament rules. If the situation that arises is not regulated by the rules, then the judges will be guided by basic logic and gaming ethics.
7. All tournament games count towards the season rating. Reports and confirmations are written in this thread and will be copied to the "Game Reports and Confirmations Online" thread. I.e., there is NO need to duplicate reports in the seasonal thread.
8. The final part of the tournament will be held using a round-robin system.

IV. Participants
1. Experienced players from HW and other gaming resources are invited to the tournament.
2. Newcomers who have shown good results are allowed (applications will be considered on an individual basis).
3. Newly registered players are not allowed to participate in the tournament (exception: active players from other gaming resources; applications will be considered on an individual basis).
4. Players who have a BWP are not eligible to participate in the tournament. If any player is awarded a BWP during the tournament, they will be disqualified and their results annulled.
5. Applications from undisciplined players who have repeatedly "ditched" tournaments may be rejected.
6. The organizers reserve the right to refuse a user participation in the tournament without publicly explaining the reasons.
7. The Winner and 2nd-3rd place finishers of the FB-7 tournament are NOT allowed to participate in the qualifiers.
8. The tournament application must include:
- 5 most favorite templates
- convenient time for playing

9. Players Gomunguls, Aya, Maretti advance to FB-8 without a qualifier, while players Piterius and LeBron have a bonus of a byeslot for 1 round (if, of course, they wish to participate)

The randomizer arranged the templates as follows
1-2sm4d3
2-Spider
3-skirmish (played according to OFB rules, i.e., with a town ban and no color change, but by mutual agreement you can play according to seasonal rules, i.e., allrandom)
4-6lm10a
5-JC
6-8mm6a
7-anarchy
8-diamond
9-Mini nostalgia

Thus, in the 1st round Red starts the ban from templates - 2sm4d3, Spider, skirmish
In the 2nd round, the ban proceeds from templates Spider, skirmish, 6lm10a
In all rounds, Red starts the template ban

I repeat for everyone - if you have a problem with your opponent (cannot find a common time, being ignored, etc.), write to me on ICQ - we will sort it out
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Roger DAltavilla
In the HellLighT vs. bubuch match, the save files were examined by players because they believed there was a violation of the red rush rule. After reviewing the situation, it turned out that the rule was not violated. However, since the save files were examined, a replay was impossible.
When evaluating the save, all judges declared a draw.
Players did not have the right to examine the save files in a disputed situation; they should have appealed to the judges, right? And since both violated the rules, shouldn't both be disqualified, resulting in a score of zero for both, or a replay? Instead, those who violated the rules are being rewarded. It seems that the results of the games were being tied to the tournament situation rather than the actual situation on the map.
Summer 2013


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Dima Surmay
Not all of Rebellius's claims were accepted, but the fact that one pair had their playtime extended... that also surprised me.

And you shouldn't have copied this:
05/06/2014 Dima Surmay (Red, Castle, Valeska, Tazar) draw Tofsla (Blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) Jebus Cross 132

This is simply an erroneous report, and it has been voided, with the correct one following immediately after.
This wasn't a claim; I simply wrote down what I saw (by the way, that message is no longer there). And I admit that I might have been mistaken because I was looking for games with a result and draws (for fun, I'll post
06/19/2014 Iamsamstan (Blue, Rampart, Ivor, Ryland) draw Dark30 (Red, Castle, Adela, Adela) Anarchy 136
06/02/2014 Huanito (Red, Tower, Solmyr, Grindan) draw BA/IEHOK (Blue, Stronghold, Kreg Heg, Kreg Heg) 8mm6a 126
04/29/2014 Stryfe (Red, Tower, Ain, Orrin) draw Heroin_HP (Blue, Fortress, Tazar, Moandar) 6lm10a 232
04/14/2014 злой_романтик (Red, Fortress, Tazar, Tazar) draw Player_ (Blue, Dungeon, Gunnar, Gunnar) Spider 223)
It's just that the reports for the rounds weren't kept, and many games aren't shown in the reports. I was still tracking a large amount of data
Summer 2013


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rebellious
This isn't a complaint; I simply stated what I saw (by the way, that message is no longer available). I admit that I might have been mistaken because I was looking for games with draws (for fun, I'll post:
19.06.2014 Iamsamstan (Blue, Rampart, Ivor, Ryland) draw Dark30 (Red, Castle, Adela, Adela) Anarchy 136
02.06.2014 Huanito (Red, Tower, Solmyr, Grindan) draw BA/IEHOK (Blue, Stronghold, Kreg Heg, Kreg Heg) 8mm6a 126
29.04.2014 Stryfe (Red, Tower, Ain, Orrin) draw Heroin_HP (Blue, Fortress, Tazar, Moandor) 6lm10a 232
14.04.2014 злой_романтик (Red, Fortress, Tazar, Tazar) draw Player_ (Blue, Dungeon, Gunnar, Gunnar) Spider 223)
It's just that there were no reports for the rounds, and many games weren't shown in the reports. I still tracked a large volume of games.
In all these games, the players agreed to a draw; in your case, this wasn't the case.
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Весна 2012.
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evil_romantic
Okay, I'll answer.
Regarding Rebellius's statement that "In the last round, I had a game with Cobra, and we played from August 12th to 17th every day" – all the saves on the 12th and 13th were at your initiative, on the 14th you didn't play, and on the 15th, the save was also at your initiative. Then you decided to pressure him, because Cobra immediately told you that he couldn't play on the weekends, but you decided to act differently. After learning that the deadline was on Saturday, you started insisting on playing PRECISELY ON SATURDAY. Cobra again went along with it and played from his dacha (again, the save was at your request). Then you refused to play and said, "Let them decide," meaning you tried your best to not finish this match.
Furthermore, you were given a deadline, and Pete monitored the game. According to him, each of your turns took many times longer than Cobra's. Then, again, the save was at your request.
The match was very ambiguous. Initially, it was heading towards three possible outcomes; after the last save, it was down to two (your victory was not considered – either Cobra wins or it's a draw), but giving you more time to finish the game would have been too much, so that decision was made.
I only hear Cobra's defender, and the arguments are only from Cobra. Did you even bother to ask for my opinion? That is, you used only the arguments of one side in making the decision and didn't even bother to question the other. This indicates that my opinion wasn't needed.
And doesn't Cobra know the rules, and was it news to him that there's a deadline on Saturdays in tournaments? As it says, if you can't, then this tournament isn't for you. Why did you omit the main game factors – the game's duration? And if Cobra can't win, it's only natural that he can only get half a point, not talk about how he's accommodating everyone. In reality, you're dragging the game out to cosmic lengths, trying to squeeze out some bonuses for Cobra. And during the last playthrough, Cobra was sending me messages in ICQ asking how much longer I could play, and he actually needed to leave earlier than me, but he tried to make it seem like I was the one initiating the save. But he didn't say that with his mobile internet, he had a bad ping and it was impossible to play, and several times the saves failed to load, wasting a lot of time?
And also, dear judge, political motives related to the current difficult situation were used in making the decision, which you yourself confirmed, and that this is also an element of the game. Or are we outside of politics?
Summer 2013


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zloy_romantik
In all these games, players agreed to a draw; in your case, this did not happen.
Read carefully again what example I provided. In this list, I selected all the draw results for the example, while the results with a winner were provided in an earlier post.
Summer 2013


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rebellious
I only hear from Cobra's defender, and the arguments are only from Cobra, but did you ever ask for mine? In other words, you only used one side's arguments in making your decision, and you didn't even bother to ask the other side. This tells me that you never actually needed my opinion.
And doesn't Kober know the rules? Was it news to him that Tournaments have ODD on Saturdays? As it's said — if you can't handle it, this tournament is not for you. Why did you overlook the main gameplay factor — the game duration? And if Cobra can't win, it's only logical that he can only get half a bagel, not go on about how he's meeting everyone halfway. In reality, you're dragging the game to cosmic lengths, trying to squeeze out some bonuses specifically for Cobra. And during the last replay, Cobra was messaging me on ICQ asking how much longer I could play, when in fact he needed to leave earlier than I did, but he tried to make it seem like I was the one initiating the save. Didn't he mention that with his mobile internet there was no ping and it was impossible to play, that we loaded saves several times with no result, wasting a huge amount of time?
And also, respected judge, in making your decision you used political motives related to today's difficult situation, which you yourself confirmed, and said that this is also an element of the game. Or are we apolitical?
I am a respected organizer, respected judges — Pit and Dirty, by the way, made their decision, which you are trying to contest, although by registering in the tournament you agreed that their decision is law. You could have submitted an appeal to the AC, which you never did properly, but regardless, the AC convened and also made its decision, but you are still unhappy... sorry, I will probably repeat myself, but the AC's decision is the AC's decision; having played on this forum for quite a while, you should know that this is the final verdict, and the fact that it did not go in your favor does not negate its authority.
Yes, regarding politics... don't go there, you were the first to bring up this topic, and in a very unpleasant context at that — I simply quoted your own words back to you. And yes, HeroesWorld is apolitical.
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Весна 2012.
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Dear :) , logs exist, so at least don’t lie here, OK? Out of 4 saves, three were exclusively at your request, and one was mutual (you had to go to the barracks for duty, so I decided that 1 extra turn wouldn’t make a difference — the victory plan was already designed for 2 weeks anyway). As for your "Cobra defender," I’ll leave that on your conscience, if you have one, which I personally doubt — because for you, victory at any cost is standard practice.. I’ll only say that if that were true, you would have received a tech loss 3 weeks ago for unsportsmanlike conduct, and would not have advanced in the FB with your tactics. Next, regarding politics and such — this is all NONSENSE. HeroesWorld is apolitical. If it were otherwise, see the previous point :)


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Can you tell me why rebellious is posting so much? It seems like he wasn't affected, or was he?
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Dima Surmay
Tell me, why does Rebellious write so much? Didn't he suffer any consequences? Or did he?
I don't know what he's unhappy about. He's on Facebook (if he confirms his account), he just needs to finish the game...:confused:
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Dima Surmay
Tell me, why does Rebellious write so much...? Didn't he suffer any losses? Or did he?

He doesn't want to start the Facebook tournament with almost a guaranteed loss. He has virtually no chance of winning in this period. Because I received a Town Portal in the last week of the endgame. And the chances of a draw diminish with each week of my double growth, and at some point, I won't care at all what kind of army he has and where he's hiding it.


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then he probably doesn't like the fact that her result will count towards the Factions ranking... By the way, I don't understand why the result of a game from this tournament counts towards another tournament? I don't think I saw anything like that in the regulations.
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Dima Surmay
I think he probably doesn't like the fact that her result will count towards the Factions' score... By the way, I don't understand why the result of a game from this tournament counts towards another tournament. I don't think I saw anything like that in the regulations.
I suggested they play a best-of-three match, but I was just kidding. Because when someone deliberately or accidentally takes from half an hour to an hour for each turn, even I (who am not the fastest player in the world :D) can see that something is not right.


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evil_romantic
I don't know what he's unhappy about; he's on Facebook (if he confirms his registration), he just needs to finish the game...:confused:
Pff, let's wrap it up, the decision has been made, the rest is just whining and complaining.
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KobRa_RR
even I (not the fastest player in the world :D) can see that something is wrong here...
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

лето 2012.
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Dear :) , logs are available, so at least don't lie here, OK? Out of 4 saves, three were exclusively at your request, and one more was mutual (you had to go to the barracks for duty, so I decided that 1 extra turn wouldn't make a difference; the winning plan was still calculated for 2 weeks anyway). As for your "Cobra's defender," I'll leave that to your conscience, if you have one, which I personally doubt. Because for you, victory at any cost is standard practice.. I'll only say that if this were true, you would have received a tech loss 3 weeks ago for unsportsmanlike conduct, and not made it to the FB with your tactics. Next, regarding politics and such, it's all NONSENSE. HeroesWorld is apolitical. If it were otherwise, see the previous point :)
Comrade Cobra, you were carried through by hook or by crook. In terms of the place you actually occupy, you failed. But they arranged a replay from a save for you and, moreover, came up with a conditional draw, and even expanded the FB, because otherwise you can't manage (hello OFB-7). Any game can, through the efforts of the judges, be dragged out to the 3rd or 4th month and, based on an advantage in meat, award someone a victory. And the judges should have accepted the result on save 212. (After all, there was the game
Yegor Korobeinikov vs Dark30
Diamond deadline 131. Game on save.
The game was awarded a draw in a situation of army vs control
with an award at a ridiculous deadline.
And in our game, you were incapable of winning by the end of the second month, and after save 212 the advantage was mine. But those are different tournament standings.

don't lie

I decided

I'll leave that to your conscience, if you have one, which I personally doubt
That's already a character sketch.

HeroesWorld is apolitical.
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28.08.2014 14:35:53, злой романтик
the AC made its decision.
28.08.2014 14:36:14, злой романтик
you can appeal
28.08.2014 14:36:23, rebellious
to the UN?
28.08.2014 14:36:37, злой романтик
to Obama personally
28.08.2014 14:37:23, rebellious
what does Obama have to do with it?
28.08.2014 14:37:44, злой романтик
and what does the UN have to do with it?
28.08.2014 14:38:08, rebellious
so where do I appeal?
28.08.2014 14:38:24, злой романтик
to the AC
28.08.2014 14:39:49, злой романтик
there are tournament judges—Derty and Pit, you can contact them
28.08.2014 14:39:58, злой романтик
but it's unlikely to help
28.08.2014 14:40:58, злой романтик
as you said? for Russia, there are no concepts
28.08.2014 14:50:22, злой романтик
ps—there will be no delays in the FB. At all.
28.08.2014 14:50:49, rebellious
I didn't say it to him, but to Cobra. And it was a private conversation. Only why did he pass it on to you and for what purpose? And what does that have to do with the game? And are you seriously using such arguments regarding the game result?
28.08.2014 14:53:35, злой романтик
your logs are also an element of the game. I didn't make the decision on the result alone. Yes, in your place I would be happy to advance to the FB. I repeat—if you're dissatisfied with something, complain to the judges, the AC, the creator—I don't care
The cat knows whose meat it ate.
Summer 2013


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