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Chess timer: step 3. Starting time. Also fairies and RR. 6 polls in one thread! Auto-translated

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I prefer the starting time (the following are set: templates, turn time + battle time):
65 voters
Multiple choice Closed 2014-09-22
This poll is closed.

Voters could pick more than one answer, so each share is out of 65 voters and the totals add up to more than 100%.

8 + 8 minutes + 1 minute 15 seconds on XL+U templates (8mm6a, 8xm12a, 6lm10a, Spider, Nostalgia)
10.8% 7 of 65 voters
14 + 8 minutes + 1 minute 15 seconds on XL+U templates (8mm6a, 8xm12a, 6lm10a, Spider, Nostalgia)
12.3% 8 of 65 voters
20 + 8 minutes + 1 minute 15 seconds on XL+U templates (8mm6a, 8xm12a, 6lm10a, Spider, Nostalgia)
27.7% 18 of 65 voters
26 seconds + 8 minutes + 1 minute 15 seconds on XL+U templates (8mm6a, 8xm12a, 6lm10a, Spider, Nostalgia)
24.6% 16 of 65 voters
32 + 8 minutes + 1 minute 15 seconds on XL+U templates (8mm6a, 8xm12a, 6lm10a, Spider, Nostalgia)
12.3% 8 of 65 voters
10 + 8 minutes 30 seconds + 1 minute 30 seconds on the Jebus Cross XL-U template
7.7% 5 of 65 voters
16 + 8 minutes 30 seconds + 1 minute 30 seconds on the Jebus Cross XL-U template
18.5% 12 of 65 voters
22 minutes + 8 minutes and 30 seconds + 1 minute and 30 seconds on the Jebus Cross XL-U template
23.1% 15 of 65 voters
28 seconds + 8 minutes 30 seconds + 1 minute 30 seconds on the Jebus Cross XL-U template
23.1% 15 of 65 voters
34 + 8 minutes 30 seconds + 1 minute 30 seconds on the Jebus Cross XL-U template
18.5% 12 of 65 voters
8 + 8 minutes + 1 minute 15 seconds on the Diamond, Mini-Nostalgia, and Anarchy templates
10.8% 7 of 65 voters
14 + 8 minutes + 1 minute 15 seconds on the Diamond, Mini-Nostalgia, and Anarchy templates
26.2% 17 of 65 voters
20 + 8 minutes + 1 minute 15 seconds on the Diamond, Mini-Nostalgia, and Anarchy templates
20% 13 of 65 voters
26 minutes + 8 minutes + 1 minute 15 seconds on the Diamond, Mini-Nostalgia, and Anarchy maps
21.5% 14 of 65 voters
32 + 8 minutes + 1 minute 15 seconds on the Diamond, Mini-Nostalgia, and Anarchy templates
6.2% 4 of 65 voters
6 + 6 minutes 30 seconds + 1 minute on the 2SM4d(3) templates, balance, Panic
13.8% 9 of 65 voters
12 + 6 minutes 30 seconds + 1 minute on the 2SM4d(3) templates, balance, Panic
26.2% 17 of 65 voters
18 + 6 minutes 30 seconds + 1 minute on the 2SM4d(3) templates, balance, Panic
30.8% 20 of 65 voters
24 + 6 minutes 30 seconds + 1 minute on the 2SM4d(3) templates, balance, Panic
9.2% 6 of 65 voters
30 + 6m30s + 1m on the 2SM4d(3) templates, balance, Panic
7.7% 5 of 65 voters
and I also want face upgrades to be allowed
38.5% 25 of 65 voters
No, no, we need to keep the ban on upgrading Fey creatures
55.4% 36 of 65 voters
We need to remove the restriction on redrawing textures for XL+U templates
60% 39 of 65 voters
leave the redrash ban on XL+U templates
33.8% 22 of 65 voters
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This is the final poll regarding the chess timer - let's decide on the starting time.

Based on the results of the previous 2 polls, we have average values for turn + battle positions:
on XL+U maps - 8 min + 1 min 15 sec;
on JC XL-U map - 8 min 30 sec + 1 min 30 sec;
on Diamond, Mini-Nostalgia, Anarchy - 8 min + 1 min 15 sec;
on 2SM4d(3), balance, Panic - 6 min 30 sec + 1 min.


Having analyzed Timur's poll results, I suggest you choose the most acceptable starting time for each group of maps from the 5 proposed options.

I prefer a starting time (on these maps and with these turn + battle time values):
8 + 8m + 1m15s (battle) on XL+U maps (8mm6a, 8xm12a, 6lm10a, Spider, Nostalgia)
14 + 8m + 1m15s (battle) on XL+U maps (8mm6a, 8xm12a, 6lm10a, Spider, Nostalgia)
20 + 8m + 1m15s (battle) on XL+U maps (8mm6a, 8xm12a, 6lm10a, Spider, Nostalgia)
26 + 8m + 1m15s (battle) on XL+U maps (8mm6a, 8xm12a, 6lm10a, Spider, Nostalgia)
32 + 8m + 1m15s (battle) on XL+U maps (8mm6a, 8xm12a, 6lm10a, Spider, Nostalgia)
- this is the first group - XL+U maps - you need to click one value.
10 + 8m30s + 1m30s (battle) on Jebus Cross XL-U map
16 + 8m30s + 1m30s (battle) on Jebus Cross XL-U map
22 + 8m30s + 1m30s (battle) on Jebus Cross XL-U map
28 + 8m30s + 1m30s (battle) on Jebus Cross XL-U map
34 + 8m30s + 1m30s (battle) on Jebus Cross XL-U map
- this is the standard Jebus Cross - also click once.
8 + 8m + 1m15s (battle) on Diamond, Mini-Nostalgia, Anarchy maps
14 + 8m + 1m15s (battle) on Diamond, Mini-Nostalgia, Anarchy maps
20 + 8m + 1m15s (battle) on Diamond, Mini-Nostalgia, Anarchy maps
26 + 8m + 1m15s (battle) on Diamond, Mini-Nostalgia, Anarchy maps
32 + 8m + 1m15s (battle) on Diamond, Mini-Nostalgia, Anarchy maps
- L+U maps with computers and Anarchy - another checkmark.
6 + 6m30s + 1m (battle) on 2SM4d(3), balance, Panic maps
12 + 6m30s + 1m (battle) on 2SM4d(3), balance, Panic maps
18 + 6m30s + 1m (battle) on 2SM4d(3), balance, Panic maps
24 + 6m30s + 1m (battle) on 2SM4d(3), balance, Panic maps
30 + 6m30s + 1m (battle) on 2SM4d(3), balance, Panic maps
- L maps without computers - one more answer.

Items highlighted in red are what you need to consider.

Also please pay attention to the last 4 items of the poll.
To avoid multiplying polls, let's simultaneously find out the forum's opinion regarding fairy upgrades.
And I want to see if the attitude toward redrush has changed, at least on XL+U maps; after all, several tournaments have taken place in recent years where RR was allowed. And nothing terrible seemed to happen.

The poll will last 23 days to cover the weekends and end on Monday.
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Is the grade fade feature specifically related to the chess timer? Sorry, I overlooked that. Will the transition to the chess timer definitely happen soon?
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bubuch
Is the "grade fade" feature specifically related to the chess timer? Sorry, I overlooked that. Will the transition to the chess timer definitely happen soon?
With the chess timer, you'll definitely have less desire to spend an hour or two grinding with a single group of Fairy creatures against zombies.
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bubuch
Is the grade fade related specifically to the chess timer?
I already wrote:
To avoid multiplying polls...
Instead of 6 topics, I made one.
bubuch
Apologies, I missed that. Will the transition to the chess timer definitely happen soon?
It's up to the tournament organizers.

Blue fairies and the removal of the ban on RR on XL+U will win if they get more than 50% of the votes from those who participate in each poll.
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and I also want them to allow grade face upgrades 15 51.72%
no, no, we need to keep the ban on grade face upgrades 11 37.93%

something doesn't add up..
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There were probably people who voted solely based on the timer, ignoring the questions about fairies, which explains the discrepancy in the percentages for fairies. There is an opinion that the percentage is calculated based on the total number of respondents.
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Then allow the upgrade for the Psionic unit. And add some birds to the mix.
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Dagr
Then allow upgrading of the Psionic units as well. And add some birds to the mix.
The Psionic units are immune to all magic, and if you increase the number of birds by 2, the upgraded version will be quite powerful.
Regarding the Red Rush: let's say the Red faction has 4 Angel dwellings. In the castle, they get an additional 4 Angels. If the upgrade is built, 4 Archangels is a lot; prohibit the Red Rush.
And the Fairies are weak, but their speed is like that of the swamp snakes. That faction already has good speed, so prohibit the upgrade.
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Ландау лев https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNj_9EQxDoI&t=1174s

Тут делимся книгами /topic/at/1139927/
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Well, maybe I went a bit overboard with the birds. But it would have made sense for Hota...
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On the forums, discussions have been ongoing for a year about whether or not to tie the butterfly upgrade to something...

It's amusing how such a small thing leads to such heated debates.
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DaU
Regarding the red rush: let's say the red faction has 4 angel dwellings, and in the castle, they get a bonus of 4 more angels. Plus, if the upgrade is built, 4 archangels is a lot; ban the red rush.
But what do dwellings have to do with it?
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Gray-zoned fakes without a chess timer result in moves taking forty minutes from day one, which is why I asked about linking it to a chess timer.
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DaU

Regarding the red rush: let's say the red faction has 4 angel dwellings, and in the castle, they get a bonus of 4 more angels. If they also build the upgrade, 4 archangels is a lot; ban the red rush.

Pro-analysis:smile04:
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bubuch
Rated games without a chess timer result in moves taking forty minutes from day one, which is why I asked about linking it to a chess timer.
Do you really think that someone would upgrade fairies instead of building birds? Unless it's for balance...
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