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The time has come and so... drumroll... the qualifying tournament for FB-8 is declared open :smile44:

I. Regulations and Deadlines

The qualifying tournament will be held using the "Swiss" system

Start of the tournament: April 1, 2014; registration until March 29, 2014 inclusive

Time limit per round: 2 weeks - technical losses will be assigned without regard to opinions or authority (the sole exception is CIS-14 in Minsk)
Players have the right to arrange a convenient time among themselves, but if an agreement cannot be reached, the critical time for playing is the night from Saturday to Sunday of the first week. (if the game was not completed in one session, then during the second week). In case one player fails to show up at the set time, the other must write to the organizer or one of the judges, and when the tech result is assigned, this will be the main argument.
This clause is not subject to discussion.

7 players advance to the final stage.

II. Rules and Templates.

1. By default, games are played according to /topic/10593/
2. By default, the game version is SoD 3.2 (4.0); by mutual agreement, WT or any other version of HOMM3.

3.The template for each round will be determined as follows - during registration, each participant must indicate 5 favorite templates; from all these templates, 9 will be selected (depending on the number of participants and the number of rounds, respectively). Then the selected templates are randomly "shuffled" and a list is compiled (e.g., 1-2sm4d3, 2-mininoszta, 3-Jebus Cross, 4-skirmish, etc.). In the 1st round, players ban templates that "came up" under numbers 1, 2, 3 (i.e., banning occurs from 2sm4d3, mininoszta, and Jebus Cross). In the next round, banning occurs from templates 2, 3, 4 (mininoszta, Jebus Cross, skirmish), etc. In the last 7th (9th) round, banning will occur from templates 7 (9), 1, 2. Red starts the ban

4. Town selection: standard ban. Blue starts the ban. Colors are determined during the draw and do not change with restarts.

A win awards 1 point, a draw 0.5, a loss 0.
The winners, and accordingly those who qualify for FB, will be 7 people.
The winner is determined by the total number of points scored. In case of a tie in points, additional tiebreakers apply.
1) Buchholz Coefficient
2) Head-to-head result

III. Organizational Matters
1. The tournament is official and regular.
2. The tournament is conducted according to the Rules for Organizing, Conducting, and Participating in Tournaments.
3. Tournament Host: zloi_romantic (296524052)
Tournament Judges: Pit for LM (471401475), Dirty_Player (ICQ 408722873).
4. For each game played, participants must submit a report and confirmation.
5. Saves of all games must be kept until the end of the tournament and presented at the first request of the tournament hosts or any AC member.
6. Regarding controversial issues, if any arise, please discuss them outside the forum. To resolve them, contact the host or a tournament judge via ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.
The judges' decision is made primarily based on the tournament rules. If the situation that arises is not regulated by the rules, then the judges will be guided by basic logic and gaming ethics.
7. All tournament games count towards the season rating. Reports and confirmations are written in this thread and will be copied to the "Game Reports and Confirmations Online" thread. I.e., there is NO need to duplicate reports in the seasonal thread.
8. The final part of the tournament will be held using a round-robin system.

IV. Participants
1. Experienced players from HW and other gaming resources are invited to the tournament.
2. Newcomers who have shown good results are allowed (applications will be considered on an individual basis).
3. Newly registered players are not allowed to participate in the tournament (exception: active players from other gaming resources; applications will be considered on an individual basis).
4. Players who have a BWP are not eligible to participate in the tournament. If any player is awarded a BWP during the tournament, they will be disqualified and their results annulled.
5. Applications from undisciplined players who have repeatedly "ditched" tournaments may be rejected.
6. The organizers reserve the right to refuse a user participation in the tournament without publicly explaining the reasons.
7. The Winner and 2nd-3rd place finishers of the FB-7 tournament are NOT allowed to participate in the qualifiers.
8. The tournament application must include:
- 5 most favorite templates
- convenient time for playing

9. Players Gomunguls, Aya, Maretti advance to FB-8 without a qualifier, while players Piterius and LeBron have a bonus of a byeslot for 1 round (if, of course, they wish to participate)

The randomizer arranged the templates as follows
1-2sm4d3
2-Spider
3-skirmish (played according to OFB rules, i.e., with a town ban and no color change, but by mutual agreement you can play according to seasonal rules, i.e., allrandom)
4-6lm10a
5-JC
6-8mm6a
7-anarchy
8-diamond
9-Mini nostalgia

Thus, in the 1st round Red starts the ban from templates - 2sm4d3, Spider, skirmish
In the 2nd round, the ban proceeds from templates Spider, skirmish, 6lm10a
In all rounds, Red starts the template ban

I repeat for everyone - if you have a problem with your opponent (cannot find a common time, being ignored, etc.), write to me on ICQ - we will sort it out
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Dirty_Player
Ideally, the game should have been replayed (that would be the fairest outcome, IMO). But due to the tournament format and the lack of time for a replay, we have to accept the result as it is.

Let's play some arena matches. There are three approaches.
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Dirty_Player
In reality, the situation is not pretty and not easy for the judges to resolve (it's not as simple as many think). Essentially, each person is right in their own way: one spoke without knowing the rules, and the other agreed without knowing the rules. In fact, neither of them knew the rules, but the save files have been examined, which means the game is over. Ideally, the game should be replayed (that would be the fairest outcome, in my opinion). But due to the tournament format and the lack of time for a replay, the result has to remain as it is. :smile32:
Kostya, what kind of nonsense is this? So, whoever manages to cheat first wins? Explain to me why Diablo lost; was it because he was too trusting?
It turns out you can cheat everyone without consequences, forcing them to surrender, and then simply pretend you didn't know the rules, or that such rules don't exist, and then you win and profit!? :smile07:
P.S. If everything remains as it is, without any investigation, I will definitely use this tactic... if one person got away with it, then everyone can, so let's have "Heroes" played through chat, with no criteria for winning! Just come up with something and win: :smile15:
In reply to злой_романтик
I had much better map and won easy. Thx for game.
Battle Report Accepted
Цитадель / Stronghold Faction Цитадель / Stronghold
Крег Хак / Crag Hack Start Hero Крег Хак / Crag Hack
Крег Хак / Crag Hack Main Hero Крег Хак / Crag Hack
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Подземелье / Dungeon Faction Подземелье / Dungeon
Шакти / Shakti Start Hero Шакти / Shakti
Дас / Dace Main Hero Дас / Dace
Map Template
Mini-Nostalgia
Game Length
147 days
Game Date
8/4/2014
Reported
8/4/2014 3:47 PM
Rating Impact Archived
ProtosArchon 1681 1687 +6 ↑
Tofsla 1441 1435 -6 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 8/6/2014 1:07 PM

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bubuch
Mizrael played better and, despite my excellent setup, was slowly winning strategically, but a couple of days before the final, he overthought things and gave me a lot of useful artifacts, which ultimately decided the outcome a couple of days later.
Thanks for the game!

That's true. I understood that Solmir wouldn't be able to handle Gosh, so I was also leveling up Moner, planning to use Solmir to trick him, and then attack depending on what would be more advantageous. But when Gosh made himself vulnerable, I forgot to remove the artifacts (although I had decided in advance that I would only attack with artifacts that provide spell power), I protected myself from the wave of death, put on a necklace that protects against lightning to increase mass haste and counter the clinch in the first round, and then came Armageddon... Hitran turned out to be even tougher because Gosh had 26 spells, but in the end, Solmir gave Gosh a red orb and two rings up to the Elixir level. There was a lot of money, I dug up Solmir for only a third of the total amount, but the red orb + elixir with those parameters cannot be countered by a mage. Thanks for the game.
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I restarted the chocolate opponent; his second good hand went to repotting during the match, and in the final hand, I got a decent hand, while on the other side, everything turned out very badly. Thanks for the game.


Thanks for the game.
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HellLighT
Why would someone who spent 12 hours playing a game, where they were tricked into giving away their password, want to replay it (of course, they thanked you for the game, they just didn't know that you made up a rule). This is what is called deception, even if it's unintentional, and the person writes that they were tired and didn't care anymore, and after reviewing the rules, they realized that you were wrong. Your rude writing style is quite tiring; just calmly wait for your loss.
You know what the presumption of innocence is, right? Well, that's what the hero did! He simply didn't know about the additional clarifications in the rules, and that's what happened.

лето 2012.
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darkello
You know what presumption of innocence is, right? Well, that hero did it unconsciously! That is, he simply thought that way because he didn't know about the additional clarifications in the rules. This also happens.
This only happens with darkello; normal people get punished.
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HellLighT
Bone, what kind of nonsense is that? So, whoever manages to cheat gets away with it? Why should Diablo lose? Explain to me, is it because he was too trusting?
Let's say a traffic cop told Diablo that he ran a red light, wrote him a ticket, and he signed it, but then he realized that the traffic light wasn't working at all. Does this "trusting nature" serve as a reason not to pay the fine?

P.S. I once had a situation where a well-known player hit-and-ran me, left the game, and started writing a report (even though there was no report, because I didn't use magic, I just hit him with an angel and ran away). If I had admitted to the hit-and-run and realized it a few days later, no one would have talked to me (maybe the opponent would have already played the next game online).

P.P.S. We received another (yet another) controversial situation because of this nasty red rush. When will they finally remove it from the rules? In my opinion, it's better if red wins 10 out of 100 times with an advantage than having one such situation.
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Dirty_Player
Let's say a traffic cop told Diablo that he ran a red light, wrote him a ticket, and he signed it, but then realized that the traffic light wasn't working at all. Does this "trust" serve as grounds for not paying the fine?

P.S. I once had a situation where a well-known player hit and ran, left the game, and started writing a report (even though there was no report, because I didn't use magic, I just hit him with an angel and ran away). If I had acknowledged the hit-and-run and realized it a few days later, no one would have talked to me (maybe the opponent would have already played the next game online).

P.P.S. We received another (yet another) controversial situation due to this nasty red rush. When will it finally be removed from the rules? In my opinion, it's better for red to win 10 out of 100 times with an advantage than to have one such situation.
I absolutely agree about the red rush rule; red already has too few advantages. But the comparison with a law enforcement officer and winning because the opponent realized it too late is just... it doesn't even resonate. Even in situations where the opponent disappears during the save and then says they're ready to play on the last day, people usually flip a coin. But here, a loss is automatically recorded for no reason. Yes, this is how decisions are made, and this is how the rules are applied.
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I believe that this controversial situation should be discussed in detail within the Arbitration Committee and a collective decision should be made. Until then, I ask everyone to refrain from making comments.
Воздам сторицей!
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zwei
thanks for game
gg
На 116 I took the opponent castle where was no citadel.
On 117 opponent attacked me.
He had lots of dwells, I had only 1 of archers.
Thank you for game
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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Everyone has said their piece, and I'll say mine. Regarding the "red rush," I've already written about where it should be removed in the templates, but there are some hardcore players who will keep complaining and banning everything related to it for another thousand years, just like they did with mages. Regarding the situation: even if Heroin provoked it, Diabler is to blame for accepting the defeat. If Heroin gets a loss for that, I'll ask you to review all my games with darkello :smile04:. I don't recall ever asking for losses for the opponents who caught me on a timer or with a rush strategy, and then still allowed themselves to write all sorts of insults to me in the chat. If I were playing chess, the very least I would do is hit them in the face with the board, but as you can see, I haven't even sworn at anyone :smile36:, and my hands are still shaking...
ICQ: 564224919
In reply to Toganash
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If I had acknowledged the defeat, I would have confirmed the report. The defeat was not acknowledged by me.
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Everyone needs to calm down here. Everyone has their own opinion, but let the judges decide!
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Diabler
If I had acknowledged defeat, I would have confirmed the report. But defeat was not acknowledged by me.

Well, what were you waiting for, sitting there, when you realized there was no redraw!
Did something short-circuit in your head until the second to last day?
Or did you really hope that I would be given a loss!
If you had simply written to me about this situation, there wouldn't have been such a problem for you, for me, or for anyone!...

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