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"Новичок-2014. Winter"

Greetings to all fans of Heroes of Might and Magic 3, future participants, and supporters of the traditional "Новичок" tournament. I hope the new season will once again delight us with great games and new discovery players.

This is our traditional, and also anniversary - tenth tournament for Новичок.
We do not have a precise and strict definition of who a "Новичок" is. This tournament is for those
- who only recently realized that you can play the favorite old game Heroes over the internet,
- who only recently found out that they are not the only one who can easily beat computers and that it's not so simple with a real person,
- who recently started playing with more than one or two heroes and building chains...

We do not invite fathers and grandfathers, we don't want to see clones, and would a medal obtained in such a dubious way even have value for a strong player?

The main goal of the tournament is to get to know each other and gain experience in communication and gameplay.


Winners of past tournaments:
"Новичок-2013. Summer" - The_
"Новичок-2013. Winter" - высокий
"Новичок-2012. Summer" - twaryna
"Новичок-2012. Winter" - 7z
"Новичок-2011. Summer" - Sky Pioneer
"Новичок-2011. Winter" - Sevensan
"Новичок-2010. Summer" - тенью бездомной
"Новичок-2010. Winter" - Сатир
"Новичок-2009. Summer" - Erdem

Participant Requirements.

1. A player registered on our forum or another gaming resource for no more than a year is considered a Новичок.
2. Players who have longer playing experience but wish to play in the tournament will be considered on an individual basis.
3. Already sufficiently strong players who have shown good results in any tournament are not allowed to participate.
4. A tournament participant must have at least one game in the seasonal rating according to HeroesWorld rules (you can play after registering). This is necessary to ensure that you are technically able to play online and have an understanding of World's rules. In separate cases, this criterion may be waived (if the player is known on other gaming resources and plays successfully there).
5. Players wishing to participate in the tournament agree to provide any additional information requested by the tournament judges.
6. Organizers reserve the right to refuse registration to anyone if they believe there are valid reasons, without a public explanation of those reasons.

Applications should be left in this thread. In the application, specify:

1. ICQ number for contact;
2. convenient time for playing;
3. when the first online game was played;
4. if the participant came from another gaming resource, they must write where from and their nickname on that resource.


Organizational Issues.

1. Leads - The_ (IСQ 241568808), Lim4 (ICQ 451224720, creating and updating tables, tracking tournament results), Grizvald (ICQ 592025309, compiling the participant list and selecting players for participation in the tournament), Judges - Pit for LM (ICQ 471401475).
2. The tournament is held according to the Rules of organization, conduct and participation in HOMM3 online tournaments.
3. For each game played, participants must provide a detailed report and detailed confirmation in this thread. Only in this case will the game be counted.
4. Technical results are assigned for games not played within the established timeframe.
5. All tournament games go into the seasonal rating. The list of reports will be passed to the Rating lead. Do NOT duplicate reports in the seasonal rating.
All tournament reports must be written using the automatic report writing system.
6. Saves of all games must be kept until the end of the tournament and presented upon first request by the tournament leads, judges, or any member of the AC.
7. Disputable moments, if any arise, should be discussed off-forum. For a resolution, you must contact the tournament lead or judge via ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.
The same judicial decision is made primarily based on the tournament rules. If the situation that arose is not regulated by the rules, the judges are guided by basic logic and gaming ethics.
8. Based on the results of the tournament, the winner will be awarded a "Winner of the Новичок Tournament" medal under their avatar

Regulations.

Stage 1. Group Stage.
All games in the group are played on template 2sm4d(3).
Each player in the group plays one game against all others. 1 point is awarded for a win, 0.5 to both for a draw, and 0 for a loss.

One week is given per game. Games can be played in any order.
If a player has not played the required number of games by the end of the current round, they must explain the reasons on the forum or by contacting the tournament leads personally. "Disappeared" participants will be disqualified and replaced by players from the reserve list.

Two players who scored the most points advance from the group to the playoffs. In case of equal points, places are distributed according to additional indicators (in order of priority):
1. Berger Coefficient (calculated only based on results shown in the group).
2. Head-to-head match.
3. Points earned in a game "weigh" more than technical wins.
4. Points earned in a game against the LM team.
5. If it is impossible to determine who advances to the playoffs based on the previous indicators, players will be offered a tie-break game scheme. At this moment, it is impossible to foresee all possible combinations of results. Therefore, the final scheme will be thought out according to the situation that develops in the groups by the end of the stage.
In this case, the seasonal (permanent) rating will play a major role.

Stage 2. Team Tournament "New Players" vs "Legends and Myths". The Новичок team, consisting of players who scored at least 2 points in the group stage, plays against the team of the best HW players.

Stage 3. Playoffs - 16 participants.
Matches are best-of-3 (first to 2 wins). Time limit per round is 2 weeks.
The Grand Final is first to 3 wins, starting with a score of 1-0 in favor of the upper bracket winner; i.e., the upper bracket winner needs to win 2 times, and the lower bracket winner - 3 times.

Dates.

Registration: December 28, 2013 - January 18, 2014.
Approval of participant list: January 18-22, 2014.
Group stage draw and start of the tournament: January 24, 2014.

Rules.

1. Game version. The tournament is held on game version SoD 3.2(4.0) + HD mod + by mutual agreement HW_rulez (For correct operation, the patch must be installed for both players), and by mutual agreement WT.
2. The tournament is conducted according to the rules of online games in Heroes 3.
3. Restarts total 3 days (111+111+111 or 111+112 or 113).
4. In the final part of the tournament, the template is chosen by a draw from a list of 5 templates: 2sm4d3, jebus Cross, Panic, 8mm6a, mini nostalgia.

All players on the tournament participant list must do the following:
1. Check if your ICQ number is entered in your profile; add it there if it is not.
If it is in your profile, a small green daisy - the ICQ symbol - is visible under the avatar. If not, you must follow the algorithm.
2. Leave an application in this thread. To do this, click the Register for tournament button located at the beginning of this thread.
3. To create a report, you will need to click the New report button located at the top of each page of the thread and fill in all necessary fields according to the template. After that, write your detailed comments on the game.
4. To confirm the report, the second player must find the game report, click the Confirm report button, and also write a detailed report.
5. It is considered good tone to thank the opponent for the game.
In reply to artbocha
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artbocha
My opponent, disappointed by my luck in the previous game, conceded.
Thanks for the time.

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Two newbies were playing. Alex was playing for the first time; I think it had been 2-3 hours since Mini-Nostalgia started before we began taking turns because we didn't know that computers should be assigned in order – red first, then blue. Thanks to Simon5760 for pointing this out.
What prevented you from gaining knowledge from a more competent source – the Rules?
Pit for LM
7. Template Mini-Nostalgia:
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Castle selection. Players choose their castles using the standard method. Castles for computer players are chosen by human players one at a time from the list of remaining castles. The player who chose the castles first begins selecting. All starting castles must be different. Before the start, the player creating the game assigns the selected castles to the computer players.

Simon5760 vs Player_ - how is it going? In 2 days, you should have the results of 2 games.
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Pit for LM
What prevented you from gaining knowledge from a more competent source – in the Rules?
That's exactly it; there’s nothing written about what principle should be used when setting up opponents. I also set them up alternating at first, but you need to start with 3 red ones, then 3 blue ones.
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Vatya
That's exactly it, the instructions don't specify the principle for setting up the computer opponents. I also set them up alternating them the first time, but you need to start with 3 red ones, then 3 blue ones.
Well, the template scheme kind of hints at where each computer opponent should be placed.
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Well, the template scheme kind of hints at where each player's units are.
That's the point, guys, are you going to follow the scheme or the rules? They contradict each other, so to speak. I won't argue – I wrote everything to the judge in the chat.
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That's the point, guys, will you follow the scheme or the rules? They contradict each other, so to speak. I won't argue – I wrote everything to the judge in the forum.
It seems everything is clear there. What are the contradictions?
In reply to artbocha
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It was a decent start, with an external dwelling of archers along the road and an external dwelling of horses a bit deeper. On the first day, I break into the secondary Rampart and think about taking the external dwelling of horses guarded by 50+ swordsmen. Besides the dwelling, they were guarding a chain +4 (the calculator said there should be 40-53 of them, but I didn't account for the chain possibly being a quest one). However, due to a lack of wood, the horses weren't built on the first day, so I decided not to risk it. And I was absolutely right, because there were 77 swordsmen! Also, 3 Griffin Conservatories were spotted (1, 2, and 2). On the second day, with Valeska, I take the first one, and with a scout hero, the second one deeper. With Valeska, I run to another respawn, and there immediately a path to the opponent is visible, along a roadless route near ГО + I see the opponent peeking out of a portal on another secondary. I decide on day 131 to run to the opponent, simultaneously taking another Griffin Conservatory deeper in the respawn with my scout hero. I was lucky it was a level 2 one, which was taken very easily. I was very lucky that the opponent made a mistake and didn't notice me running around his respawn for 2 days.
Anyway, on day 133 I take his main and send out scouts. On day 135, the Final Battle happens. 5 angels, 92 Marksmen, 8 horses, 15 griffins, and 60 Pikemen against 3 angels, 14 Dwarves, 2 Manticores, 55 Evil Eyes, and 30 Harpies. The opponent has an advantage in stats of about 13!! + he also has +1 to speed + has Mass Haste and Blind, while I have no mass magic but I do have Dispel. The Marksmen never fired a single shot during the entire battle, and the Evil Eyes hit very hard. In principle, the opponent would have won the battle, but we would have traded down to zero, although I would have bought myself out for 5k gold, but he wouldn't have made it to my main. Anyway, toward the end of the battle, a surrender follows.
Thanks for the game.
Battle Report Accepted
Замок / Castle Faction Замок / Castle
Валеска / Valeska Start Hero Валеска / Valeska
Валеска / Valeska Main Hero Валеска / Valeska
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Подземелье / Dungeon Faction Подземелье / Dungeon
Шакти / Shakti Start Hero Шакти / Shakti
Шакти / Shakti Main Hero Шакти / Shakti
Map Template
2sm4d(3)
Game Length
135 days
Game Date
3/26/2014
Reported
3/26/2014 10:21 PM
Rating Impact Archived
MrP1nchy 1600 1616 +16 ↑
identity 1634 1618 -16 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/29/2014 4:33 AM

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Today, we have another deadline.
Let's see what the players have been up to.

We already have one finalist: MrP1nchy, congratulations!

In the match Simon5760 vs Player_, at Player's request, I've extended the deadline to March 31st, and I hope you'll play the entire match over the weekend.

Lexmaster vs Roger-ua - the match started later than the others, so we're also aiming for a March 31st deadline.

For the two already determined pairs in the lower bracket, the deadline for round 2 is April 9th.

Good luck!
In reply to artbocha
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We started without restarts. A spread of 4 heroes. One Dragon Fly Hive is visible, the tree is blocked, but two native heroes arrived and a double was spotted — decided to play.
Week 1 — immediately went and killed the computer, scouted the Griffin Conservatory, Dragon Utopia, built in the
native Castle: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7 — in the Castle, the computer has 1, 2, 3, 4, 6. Tazar is expert in Wisdom, Armor, Air.
Week 2 — collected money, at the Dragon Fly Hive encountered the opponent, got broken by him into the Castle, took the Dragon Fly Hive, upgraded to Wyvern, prepared to take the Griffin Conservatory (3).
Week 3 — took the Griffin Conservatory, then the Dragon Utopia, saw that the opponent's parameters were much higher, and saw that he was sitting in the village above, but the hero himself was not visible. In the Dragon Utopia they gave the Archmage's Hat, used it to reach the village and attacked, and fortunately — it was a Frost Bolt without the opponent's turn (he had no army).
Thank you for the game!
Battle Report Accepted
Крепость / Fortress Faction Крепость / Fortress
Тазар / Tazar Start Hero Тазар / Tazar
Тазар / Tazar Main Hero Тазар / Tazar
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Подземелье / Dungeon Faction Подземелье / Dungeon
Шакти / Shakti Start Hero Шакти / Shakti
Шакти / Shakti Main Hero Шакти / Shakti
Map Template
8mm6a
Game Length
135 days
Game Date
3/27/2014
Reported
3/27/2014 9:28 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Lexmaster 1554 1572 +18 ↑
Roger-ua 1641 1623 -18 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/28/2014 5:38 AM

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Started without restarts. A spread of 4 heroes. Visible one Dragon Fly Hive, tree blocked, but two native heroes came and a double was seen—decided to play.
Week 1 - immediately went and killed the computer, scouted Griffin Conservatory, Dragon Utopia, built native Castle 1,2,3,4,6,7 - in the castle, computer has 1,2,3,4,6. Tazar experts Wisdom, Armor, Air.
Week 2 - gathering money, Dragon Fly Hive met the opponent, was defeated by him into the castle, took the Dragon Fly Hive, upgraded Wyvern, preparing to take Griffin Conservatory (3).
Week 3 - take Griffin Conservatory, then Dragon Utopia, see that the opponent's stats are much higher and see that he settled in the village above, but the hero himself is not visible. In Dragon Utopia they give the Grand Magician's Hat, with its help we reach the village and attack, and fortunately - it's an FB without the opponent's turn (he has no army).
Thanks for the game!
I confirm.
On 111 112 Troglodytes I see an external dwelling of Minotaurs and the Eye, 2 money heroes. On 112 I take the Minotaur dwelling for 50+ Hell Hounds successfully gnawed the ballista. On the first 12345 in Citadel and portal. On 126 instead of scouting the road I move a folder turn and only then the scout hero finds op Tazar on a Fly and nearby a scout hero on a Mosquito. On 134 Shakti takes 2 Dragon Utopia max stats all =20 true no control. Before that the Mosquito is constantly on Shakti, here Shakti spends the night without troops, not even having the scout hero back him up. Terrible Tazar 6 10 7 6 overwhelms. Having taken the first Dragon Utopia 1 that day and received the Hat 5. No words, and no skill alas.
Thanks for the game!
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Lexmaster and Roger-ua, thank you for your promptness.

Sloth_D - removed and disqualified.
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And I think it's time to draw a line under the "New Players" vs "Legends and Myths" tournament. If you want to finish it, write reports in the season thread. I will not include the technical games in the final results.

A total of 19 games were played on the following maps:
5 games each on 2sm4d(3) and Jebus Cross,
4 games on 8mm6a,
2 games each on Diamond and 8xm8a,
and one on Skirmish.

The score is 3-16 in favor of LM. This time, the newcomers played much better.

The following players brought points to the NP team: Aiwe, Graf_Bananov, Cincinnat, all 3 victories on the 8mm6a map. Interestingly, on this map, LM only managed to win once.

The following players played for the LM team:
KobRa_RR - 5 wins,
2 points each were scored by - Pit for LM, GoD, Maretti, Gomunguls,
1 win each for numOne, Mizrael, twaryna.

Thank you all for participating, I hope these games were useful for the newcomers.
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It was a decent start, with an external dwelling of archers along the road and an external dwelling of horses a bit further in. On the first map I break into a secondary Rampart, and I'm thinking of taking the external dwelling of horses for 50+ swordsmen. In addition to the external dwelling, they were guarding a chain +4 (the calculator said there should be 40-53 of them, but I didn't account for the chain possibly being quest-related). But due to a shortage of wood on the first map, the horses didn't get built, and I decided not to risk it. And it was the right call, as there were 77 swordsmen! Also, 3 Griffin Conservatories were revealed (1, 2, and 2). On the second map with Valeska, I take the level 1 dwelling and a scout hero takes the level 2 dwelling in the depths. Valeska runs to another respawn and immediately sees a path to the opponent, without a road, near ГО + I see the opponent peeking out of a portal on another secondary. I decide on day 131 to run to the opponent, picking up another Griffin Conservatory in the depths of the respawn with the scout hero on the way. Lucky that there was a level 2 dwelling, which was taken very easily. Very lucky that the opponent made a mistake and didn't notice me running around his respawn for 2 days.
Anyway, on day 133 I take his main and send out scouts. On day 135, the final battle happens. 5 Angels, 92 Marksmen, 8 Horses, 15 Griffins, and 60 Pikemen vs. 3 Angels, 14 Dwarves, 2 Manticores, 55 Evil Eyes, and 30 Harpies. The opponent has a stat advantage of about 13!! + also has +1 to speed + has Mass Haste and Blind, while I have no mass magic but I have Dispel. The Marksmen didn't fire a single shot during the entire battle, and the Evil Eyes hit very hard. Basically, the opponent would have won the battle, but we would have traded to zero, although I would have bought myself out for 5k gold, but he wouldn't have made it to my main. Anyway, towards the end of the battle, a surrender follows.
Thanks for the game.
Moved yesterday's confirmation:
identity
Was so distracted from the game that I only noticed my opponent when he was a day's march away from my main. I tried to build the 2nd guild and a whirlpool on a secondary, but I couldn't land Lightning, and Blindness couldn't do anything against the enemy's healing.
Thanks for the game!
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Pit for LM

In the match Simon5760 vs Player_, at Player's request due to personal circumstances, I extended the deadline to March 31st, and I hope you will play the entire match over the weekend.
Good luck!
I won't be able to play, the problems remain. I am withdrawing from the tournament. I apologize to everyone.
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Player_
I won't be able to play, the issues remain. I'm withdrawing from the tournament. I apologize to everyone.
That's a shame.

So, the upper bracket semi-final is now:
Simon5760 vs Aiwe
and in the lower bracket: artbocha vs Cincinnat.
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The opponent took one restart, after which I got a double spawn of Gremlins and Shaktis in the tavern, a small spawn of Goblins and Wolves on their starting location, as well as a stable and a double mana node. Also, I found Luna in the tavern, and on their starting location, I found a fire enhancement and an interesting scroll for a small reward (as it turned out, it was a Fly spell). In the carts and skeletons, I found a +4 shield, a +1+1 morale/luck ring, and a Spirit of Despair. I repelled a small spawn of Goblins, found a +2+2 sword, and used Dessa to break into the underground. This turned out to be a path to a dead-end treasure room with a portal to the computer's location via a rough road. I decided to go there with Dessa anyway, hoping to kill the computer by the end of the first week, take some loot from their starting location, and return to the stables on my starting location via another road, but, as usual, everything was generated not very nicely, and I had to go around a lot from the rough road portal. As a result, the computer builder settled in the castle with a full load, building birds. There's nothing to do, I'm going to attack. At the same time, some gold/resources are being farmed on 3 birds. By the end of the week, I plan to have bears in the Citadel in my main castle and birds in the Fortress in the computer's castle. On day 115, I received a message about their surrender.
Battle Report Accepted
Цитадель / Stronghold Faction Цитадель / Stronghold
Десса / Dessa Start Hero Десса / Dessa
Десса / Dessa Main Hero Десса / Dessa
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Замок / Castle Faction Замок / Castle
Валеска / Valeska Start Hero Валеска / Valeska
Кайри / Kyrre Main Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Map Template
8mm6a
Game Length
114 days
Game Date
4/5/2014
Reported
4/5/2014 11:48 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Defiant 1489 1508 +19 ↑
Lexmaster 1609 1590 -19 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 4/6/2014 12:42 AM

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