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Hello, dear forum members... I have a question. It is important for me to know if you believe in God? I was just writing a story and this question really interested me. Please answer... :o ***An 18-year-old teenager sitting in his room in front of a computer, contemplating life and death. Do you think this is normal? It seems to me that every person experiences this at a certain age, for some at 18, and for others just before death. Death... the frightening meaning of this word is associated differently for everyone. Maybe it is the beginning of a new life, or maybe it is a choice of existence - Heaven and Hell. Will you answer my question, why does every person think about where God will place them throughout their life? In Heaven or Hell? Or maybe it is not God who decides where our soul goes after death, maybe he just "sits on the jury and gives us points for the path we have traveled." And let's say that less than 5 points is Hell, and more is Heaven. Perhaps, in addition to God, the "Devil" also sits on the "jury," sipping juice through a straw and also raising signs with numbers. Will you say that I am a fool and need to be treated? Maybe so, but as some unknown doctor said to me: "There are no healthy people, there are only those who have not been examined." Heaven and Hell. Why did humanity invent only 2 options for the path? Doesn't this seem silly to you, because one of the advantages of the real world is diversity. Why eat plain "french fries" all day long if you can generously pour mayonnaise and ketchup on them? And I don't know... Even vegetarians, who do not eat animal products, diversify potatoes with various vegetables and sauces. In my understanding, there is a third path after death. A lethargic sleep or clinical death. A state of a person when his body has not yet decayed in the coffin, but is not sunbathing on the beach in the arms of a loved one. Many say that lethargic sleep is a road to the "Other World" and free delivery back to the world of the living. Although, unfortunately, not many can boast of this free delivery. So, let the third path begin to exist, from now on, a person who falls into a lethargic sleep or is sent to Divine Judgment. It is here that the Lord will decide where to place this soul: in Heaven, Hell, or back to Earth. Hell is Satan's purgatory. Most people think that Hell is a large fiery river or city, in the middle of which the Devil sits, and little devils heat up another frying pan to fry you for eternity like a potato. This is complete nonsense, although I cannot express myself so harshly about the opinions of others. What is the scariest thing on Earth? A flood or a nuclear war? NO. I think the scariest thing is loneliness. This is our Hell. Perhaps a loved one, whether a boyfriend or girlfriend, lying on the beach in the warm sun, has dreamed more than once of staying on Earth together with their chosen one. Yes, I am the same. Going to the most expensive restaurants and nightclubs, running around naked, and of course, having sex in the most interesting places. But what if you are left alone in this world? Of course, for the first month, you will be happy, but what then... Loneliness is our Hell. Personally, after a certain time, I will go crazy and kill myself in some sophisticated way. For example, I will jump from the tallest skyscraper in the world. And while I am falling, I will think about the meaning of Life and pray to God. To pray is to read prayers, all people believe that if they read these sentences, they will definitely go to Heaven. Perhaps the Lord is more interested in listening to your feelings and your problems than prayers. Of course, it is worth telling them, but after your own thoughts and before the word "Amen." Am I a believer? I don't know. I pray when I am scared, when someone close to me is in the hospital or seriously ill, I am scared - I pray. When a loved one is taking a difficult exam, I worry and therefore I pray. But, unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, I do not read prayers. But God definitely exists. Darwin's theory + Adam and Eve. Half of humanity came from monkeys, the other half from a loving couple. Maybe it's true. In many films and books, Hell is a destroyed city after the siege of Angels. Everywhere there are bodies of people and demons. No, that's not right either. An empty world for every person. Empty shops, with broken windows, deserted streets and various government institutions. A world in which you will not feel anything: neither a breath of wind, nor a warm ray of sunshine. You will only feel pain. When walking, when raising your arms, when the next thought visits your dead brain. This is the Hell I am afraid of. But what is Heaven then? Heaven is the sky, angels, and forgiveness of all sins. After entering the gates of Paradise, you are automatically given wings and a halo. And then have fun wherever and however you want... Lush green vegetation, clear water in which beautiful snow-white swans swim. No, not again. Heaven is individual for everyone. What a person dreams about, that is what he will receive in Heaven. Do you want a house in the mountains and millions of dollars? Live, do not sin, help people, and it will be. Think about how you would see your world? A city living without problems with criminals and pollution? Or a tropical island beach where muscular men and tanned girls in bikinis walk? What will our fantasy lead us to... Do you want to see my Heaven? If you don't want to, don't read on and forget everything you have read and go about your business... My Heaven is a world with empty shops, with broken windows, deserted streets. A world in which you will not feel anything: neither a breath of wind, nor the joy of the next victory. You will only feel pain. When walking, when raising your arms, when the next thought visits your dead brain. But you will be with her. With your soulmate, who is so dear to you that dying for her is your life. Because God is love. True love conquers fear, pain, and most importantly, death. This is the most wonderful feeling that the Lord could have invented, and that is why we should believe in him and pray. You know, I have been writing this nonsense for 3 hours. I will be very grateful if you, after reading these thoughts, smile and say that I am right or think about the meaning of your life. What is Heaven for you, and what is Hell? Will we be saved? I don't know... believe... P. s. I hope these thoughts will not affect where I should go after death. Please rate my performance. 7.8? Very good... My road to Heaven. Thank you all... *** FROM THE UNWRITTEN!
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What exactly are you interested in? I'll try to answer.
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I'm curious, do you believe in God? Do you pray or not?
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Yes, I believe in God, I visit temples, and I pray.
If you have any questions about the afterlife, feel free to ask.
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I am a baptized person, and I believe in God, but only when I have problems... I act very foolishly. I have gone to church several times, but my head starts spinning, and I feel unwell there...
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Jesus said: Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.
So pray when it's difficult.
And regarding dizziness - you're not the only one. Confess, take communion - it should pass.
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Harbinger, my deepest respect to you ("respect" is already stuck in my craw, so to speak). To answer your question – yes, I believe in God. Your article really cheered me up, because I adhere to almost the same philosophy. Although, hell can be different for everyone. Why do some people become Satanists? Because they are afraid of going to hell, just like everyone else, but they decided to choose an easier path, thinking that by worshipping the devil, they will gain his favor. But at most, they will immerse themselves in sin to such an extent that the devil can use them to exert his power (remember sorcerers, fortune tellers), thus simply using them, and then? And then, the same thing – empty shops with broken windows. Recently, I found a website on the internet belonging to Ilana Yahav, a woman who opened the first school of sand art. After looking at her works, I realized that the world still has a lot to offer. Many people say that politics, Iraq, deputies, alcoholism, drug addiction... and conclude that the end of the world is near. I don't think so. Yes, drug addiction, yes, politics, but was it easy in the Middle Ages? Plague, the Tatar-Mongol yoke, crusades, the "holy" Inquisition, again – politics. According to modern logic, the end of the world should have come then. But what was destroyed was rebuilt, what was fragmented was reunited, what had fallen was raised. The world will live for a very, very long time. At least because sand drawing is a relatively young, but infinitely beautiful art form. And I don't believe that such a beautiful art should only exist on Earth for 20-30 years. I just don't believe it! People have only just begun to explore space; they simply don't have time for an apocalypse. We don't have time for it right now. The world will live and live! And love is not only a moonlit night in a gazebo with a loved one, although this is a very important part of it; nowadays, very few people love truly. What other kind of love can there be? Love for family, love for playing the guitar, love for the theater, love for skiing, love for sailing, love for life, finally! Alex-the-Ghost (or maybe not him – I don't remember anymore) and I had a small argument about what or who rules the world. According to Alex, death rules the world. Alex, you're wrong! The world is ruled by love! And who is love? That's right! :D Once again, thank you, Harbinger, for once again confirming the validity of my view of the world and for cheering me up so much! I wish I could read your article every morning. By the way, here is that very website.
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First of all, many thanks to the Harbinger! Now, I'll share my thoughts.
Regarding the gods, I've already answered this somewhere in a philosophical discussion:
I believe that initially there was the Absolute (an unpersonified accumulation of energy). The Absolute created the universe. The Christian God is a more personified embodiment of the Absolute (possessing traits of character and reason). The Islamic God is another aspect of the Christian God. Buddhist beliefs are about worshipping the balance of the Universe. Pagan gods are also personifications of narrower aspects of the Absolute, or personifications of people's own missions created by them. I hope I won't be burned at the stake for this?
By the way, I am a believer myself.

Regarding prayers:
No matter which god, goddess, or gods you worship, it is important for them to know your feelings and thoughts. Prayers are good when they are mixed with sincere feelings; otherwise, it's like in the early nineties when all the gangsters suddenly became believers...

Regarding Heaven and Hell.
Indeed, everyone chooses their own Heaven and Hell. For some, Heaven is like the tropical beach you described. For others, it's a luxurious mansion and a thriving company. For some, Heaven is a fiery river and devils with frying pans; for others, it's simply a room with no way out. Those who do not believe in an afterlife after death die completely and merge with the Absolute. The soul is drawn to the pole it desires, and a person believes that they will end up there. You could say that any gangster can convince himself that he is innocent and will go to Heaven. No, it's not that easy. He can convince the jury, he can convince himself, but subconsciously he will know about his crimes. After death, there will be no bosses to whom he can nod and say, "He ordered me to do it!" After death, you will judge yourself and pass sentence. This is the duality of Heaven and Hell; it's not that nothing more diverse could be invented, but rather that much of it comes down to this.

And now, a touch of cynicism:
The world is ruled by pleasures! Love, death – these are all tools. Not tools in a dismissive sense, like a hammer and a tractor, but tools like the ear – an instrument of hearing. Moreover, I meant not pleasures in the banal sense (drinking, eroticism), but diverse pleasures – it could be admiring a painting, feeling a sense of self-importance, relaxing in nature, drinking in good company, a morning on a quiet river. Ask a gangster what he needs? He'll say: money. Why? So that he can have girls, so that he can live well, so that he can get away from the cops... Ask a scientist what he needs? He'll say: the implementation of his invention, or fame, or money. What is all this for? To feel important, to live well, to ultimately make the world a better place... Ask a love-struck poet what he needs? Relaxation in nature, to have his beloved nearby... Why? Because he is in love... All that I have listed are pleasures... Why do some gangsters or businessmen experience a feeling of emptiness and satiety when they acquire wealth? They have tried all the base pleasures and have nothing to do; they have a lot of time, and unnecessary thoughts about their past life appear... Some cope by driving themselves to extremes with binges, some find some simple, elevated pleasure that they understand, such as an elevated love for one woman or collecting, but rarely does anyone manage to regain the taste for life that they had before. Base pleasures must harmonize with elevated ones.
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I attend church, pray, and visit temples, and I celebrate Orthodox holidays. I just can't seem to stick to fasting...
Well, you wouldn't know from my avatar, would you?





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First of all, a big thank you to Predvesnik! Now, I will share my thoughts.
Regarding the gods, I already answered somewhere in the philosophy section:
I believe that in the beginning there was the Absolute (a non-personified accumulation of energy); the Absolute created the universe. The Christian god is a more personified embodiment of the Absolute (possessing character traits and reason), the Islamic god is another hypostasis of the Christian one, Buddhist beliefs are the worship of the Universe's balance. Pagan gods are also personifications of narrower aspects of the Absolute, or personifications of people's own missions created by humans. I hope I won't be burned at the stake for this?
By the way, I am a believer myself.

Regarding prayers:
No matter which god/goddess/gods you worship, it is important for them to know your feelings and thoughts. Prayers are good when they are mixed with sincere feelings; otherwise, it's like in the early nineties when all the mobsters suddenly rushed into faith...

Regarding Heaven and Hell.
Indeed, everyone chooses Heaven and Hell for themselves. For some, Heaven is a tropical beach, as you described. For some, a luxurious mansion and a successful company. For some, paradise is a river of fire and demons with frying pans; for others, simply a room from which there is no exit. Those who do not believe in the afterlife die completely after death and merge with the absolute. The soul is drawn to a certain pole; wherever a person believes they will go, that is where they will end up. One might say—then any gangster can convince himself that he is innocent and go to Heaven. No, it is not that easy. He can convince a jury, he can convince himself, but in his subconscious, he will know about his crimes. After death, there will be no bosses to point to and say—he ordered me to do it! After death, you will judge yourself and pass the sentence. This is the duality of Heaven and Hell; it's not that they couldn't think of anything more diverse, it's just that much boils down to this.

And now for a corner of cynicism:
The world is ruled by pleasures! Love, death—these are all Tools. Not dismissive tools like a hammer or a tractor, but Tools like the ear is a tool for hearing. Moreover, I didn't mean pleasures in the banal sense (drinking, erotica), but diverse pleasures—it could be admiring a painting, a sense of one's own importance, relaxing in nature, drinking in good company, a morning by a quiet river. Ask a gangster—what does he need? He'll say: money. Why? To have girls, to live like a human being, to get rid of the cops... Ask a scientist—what does he need? He'll say: the implementation of his invention, or fame, or money. For what purpose is all this? To feel important, to live well, to change the world for the better in the end... Ask a poet in love—what does he need? A retreat in nature, to have his beloved nearby... Why: he is in love... Everything I listed are pleasures... Why do some gangsters or businessmen experience a feeling of emptiness and satiety once they acquire wealth? They have tried all the base pleasures, they have nothing to do, plenty of time, unnecessary thoughts about the life they've lived appear... Some save themselves by driving themselves into a frenzy with drinking binges, some find some simple, sublime pleasure that they understand, like a sublime love for one woman or collecting, but few manage to regain that taste for life they had before. Base pleasures must harmonize with sublime ones.
Saruman, in your opinion, can a cluster of energy create anything? Think about it yourself: here sits a cluster and just sits. It is the absolute, and therefore it needs nothing; what reason would it have to create anything? What cause could lead the absolute to create the universe? Loneliness? This is the absolute, a cluster of energy, not feeling emotions inherent to mortals. It is the absolute, it is self-sufficient. What then? Simply out of boredom? This is the absolute, it is above that. A higher intelligence that needs nothing. Maybe curiosity then? What curiosity could there be for one who already knows everything? Doesn't add up, IMHO.

The world is ruled by pleasures? My friend, why does a person achieve all these pleasures by one way or another? What drives them? Correct, love for pleasures. :) However, you expressed yourself correctly; in the end, a person attains all the vile pleasures and the melancholy begins. A person has everything, yet has nothing. And what exactly? Love. Not the carnal satisfaction of those tiresome courtesans, but true love. And some people, as you rightly said, find their love. Some in a simple village life, fishing, some in a beloved (partner), some in both. The rest either end their lives with suicide, seeing no further meaning in them, others simply suffer through their age until they become frail old people, and only on their deathbed do they replay their entire life back and forth and realize what they were lacking so much, but it will be too late; or perhaps there are those who will never understand why, having everything, they are unhappy. I feel sorry for such people. Truly sorry.
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I disagree with the idea that heaven or hell will be exactly as you imagine them. But let's break it down first: Heaven is a place where God exists. Hell is a place where God does not exist. The Bible states that no one knows or can even imagine what the Lord has prepared for those who love Him (regarding Heaven). Sinners are condemned to eternal torment (hell, but it doesn't say there will be fires and cauldrons, although there is mention of the fiery Gehenna). BUT, eternal torment can only be avoided through faith in Jesus Christ, not through good deeds (quote from the Bible: "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not of your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast" – I don't remember the exact reference, but I can find it if anyone is interested). However, we must not only believe and pray but also do good deeds, as "faith without works is dead." Therefore, if you want to go to heaven, learn to love the Lord, give alms, etc. But I want to note that if you pray, pray with your heart (being aware of everything you say, not just reciting some rule), and if you give alms, do it sincerely, not thinking, "I could have bought beer with that money."
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)))))))) Why don't you open a church here? We have one virtual god – the Admin. You can pray to him and ask for help. There are no other gods.))
ДУРАКОВ ОЧЕНЬ МАЛО, НО ОНИ РАССТАВЛЕНЫ ТАК ГРАМОТНО, ЧТО ВСТРЕЧАЮТСЯ НА КАЖДОМ ШАГУ.
Прошу прощения у Arandor-а. Я слишком резко отреагировал. Просто очень люблю спорт. Извини...[/SIZE]
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))))))))You could even open a church here. We have one virtual god – the Admin. You can pray to him and ask for help. There are no other gods.))
Andrey, but I still gave you a disapproval...
Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
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))))))))You should open a church here. We have one virtual god – the Admin. You can pray to him and ask for help. There are no other gods.))
Andrey, you really made me laugh, honestly. Atheists always crack jokes like that. - So, you don't have a God? - No. - And you don't have a devil either? - No. - What kind of country is this where you can't find anything?:D
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Wiz, I'll explain about the "sguostok" later; it requires careful explanation. As for the pleasures, you completely missed my point about the combination of the base and the sublime. And saying that love for pleasures is a driving force can also be interpreted as saying that love is one of the pleasures.

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