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Brainwashing is now official.

That's why I made the disclaimer about conspiracy theories – Chipstone often sees planning where there is actually skillful adaptation to the situation, creating the illusion of a plan.

In reality, it was most likely like this: the scenario described by Chipstone was considered as one of the possible options, but they didn't bet on it; they worked on several options at once. In the end, this particular option worked out.

There was evidence that Putin knew two months ago that the agreement in Vilnius would not be signed, and that street unrest would follow.

Did it work?! :confused:

I doubt it even existed.

Just like the other options. Putin and Yanukovych are not the kind of guys to conspire.

Regarding the further development of events, it's complete nonsense. First, what is "eliminating the Maidan without force"?!

How is that even possible? Secondly, if this is all Putin's cunning plan, then he miscalculated a bit: in Russia, the electorate can be kept under control indefinitely, but this doesn't always work in Ukraine (the author somehow forgets that, in addition to presidents, there are also the people who elected them. In general, it seems that in Russia, no one is familiar with the concept of the expression of will), and judging by what is happening on the Maidan, their agreements have failed.

Yanukovych is already a political corpse; everyone has turned away from him (there was news that there was even a Schism in his party, which is probably why he started stammering more often - the guy got drunk), and the new government will definitely revise these agreements (is this scenario provided for?). In short, it's not all that rosy...

You were talking about paranoia, right?)) It's not worth starting a discussion without knowing what's going on there. If you want to know, here's a constant live stream from the scene:

Why is that? Judging by the lack of screaming from both sides and the absence of frantic movements back and forth during the negotiations and related actions, they had some preliminary agreements. What exactly they were is unknown, but this whole story doesn't resemble a scenario played out from scratch.

It's described in detail there.

For some reason, I think this isn't about the electorate, but about a different state policy.

For example, in Moscow-2011, people also expressed their will, and the authorities didn't particularly interfere, but it didn't turn out very well... and that was without any repression, crackdowns, breaking things, etc. They came out, held a rally, chatted online and in kitchens, and most people realized that they shouldn't have gotten involved in the first place, and the process simply fizzled out.

I'm not aware of that, but in any case, Yanukovych's problems are Yanukovych's problems.

I go there every other day.

It's understandable to remove Yanukovych and rush towards Europe, but what happens next?

This is the psychology of a slave – the fear of change. It's better to remain in a complete mess than to break free, because it's more peaceful. Yes, freedom is responsibility, but if you fear it and avoid it, you will remain a slave your whole life. Freedom is expensive, but it's worth it.

Teaching? That's nonsense. It's almost impossible to pass it on your own.

I passed the exam myself. Didn't pay a single extra penny. Although, I was part of a group :D. The others didn't even try!! because there's a strong stereotype that "it's impossible to pass the exam on your own." This stereotype is skillfully reinforced by the instructors directly.

Everything is possible!

Here's an interesting version of events - http://chipstone.livejournal.com/1142257.html

From my experience reading this fellow - he often guesses the essence of phenomena correctly, though he usually dilutes them a bit with conspiracy theories and his political views. Nevertheless, it's useful to read if you make allowances for the above.

Say, in Moscow-2011 they also expressed their will, the authorities didn't particularly interfere, but it didn't turn out so well... and without any repressions, crackdowns, breaking dishes, or anything like that. They went out, held rallies, chatted online and in kitchens, most realized they shouldn't have gotten involved in the first place, and the process fizzled out on its own.

Personally, I'm against such changes. I had enough of 1990 and 2004, after which the country regressed to the level of Zanzibar. And what you're talking about isn't freedom, but anarchy, though maybe for you that is freedom...

You just haven't encountered this yet, but I personally felt all the quirks of such revolutions firsthand, when my company was inspected 5 times in a year. The tax inspectors said outright, sorry, dude, but understand, the budget is empty, we're being screwed over, we can't get taxes, so make up for it with fines.

Or another example. My wife washed my license [in the laundry], I had to retake the test. I go to the traffic police, and there's complete turmoil, and now the bribe is 10! times bigger, because everyone is scared. And for me, even one day without a car is a big loss. Study? That's nonsense. Passing it on my own there is almost impossible, everyone wants to eat. I had to pay up.

And a third example. If before the revolution fines were issued in the range of 1 minimum wage to 10 minimum wages, first 1, then 2, then 3-5, then after it, right from the first time, they gave the maximum. And there are tons of such examples.

So the question is, why the hell do I need all these revolutions?

There are some wise thoughts here and there, but that's about 5%, the rest is garbage cluttering the brain, which I could tear apart myself in about 10 minutes.

I'm reading the second article.

Read it.
In short, don't read it, the guy is somehow trying to make money off his articles. You can find such heresy on every corner, more than enough.

Well, generally, now it's clear which way the wind blows. It's hard to imagine a different model :)

Please be more specific here – what exactly is described incorrectly and what is the reality?

It's not very appropriate to just talk without substance; you need to address the core of the issue.

And where is this coming from? :) I can't grasp your thought; it seems like another empty bluff.

Generally, you are adults and should understand that behind the scenes, negotiations are constantly taking place. During the day, it's a performance on stage, perhaps a premiere, but in the evening, they are just ordinary people.

Well, basically, people like you are there to ensure that something changes, but if you don't understand that, you're doomed to keep paying, regardless of who's in power. The power structure isn't the issue here; the problem lies with you.