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Offline Myxomoar
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Still, it seems to me that the randomness there has nothing to do with the faction. Although, based on my impressions, the second level is built a little less often than in 50% of cases. However, I don't rule out that there might be some kind of dependency (archers are better than dwarves -> they need to be given less often -> the probability of them being built is lower). But I don't think that the people who made this game, with its Tazars and other imbalances, were involved in such deep balancing.
Наполеон в Москву тоже на 133 пришёл ;) (с)
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Offline Sav
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In player cities, a Fortress dwelling of the second level is built by default with a 30% probability; this does not depend on the faction or any other factors.
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Offline Vatya
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Sav
In player cities with a Fortress, a level 2 dwelling is built by default with a 30% probability. This does not depend on the faction or any other factors.
There is also something like the "law of perversity." When you need this level 2 dwelling, it won't appear; when you don't need it, the 30% chance works perfectly.
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26.10.2013 BISHOP(blue, Tower, Solmyr, Gundula) def Myxomoar(red, Conflux, Ignissa, Pire) 6lm10a, 117
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26.10.2013 BISHOP(blue, tower, solmyr, gundula) def Myxomoar(red, conflux, ignissa, pire) 6lm10a, 117
I confirm, a weak starting army, but a decent set of heroes + the respawn itself being cozy convinced me to give it a try. Alas, on 117 due to inattention I missed a stack hidden by the terrain and was 100 gold short for birds. Otherwise, there were 5 cons, a Dragon Fly Hive — everything had already been scouted.
Thanks for the game.
Наполеон в Москву тоже на 133 пришёл ;) (с)
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"the people who made our SoD, with Tazars and other imbalances)"
if it weren't for this "other imbalance," you and I could even sign up for Tournaments-
"it's all the same as shaving a pig—lots of squealing, but little hair!"
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Offline Juristis
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Myxomoar
I confirm, the starting army is weak, but a decent set of heroes + the respawn itself being cozy convinced me to give it a try. Alas, on 117 due to inattention I missed a stack hidden by the terrain and was 100 gold short for the birds. Otherwise there were 5 Griffin Conservatories, a Dragon Fly Hive — all already scouted.
Thanks for the game.
Did I understand correctly, you surrendered in a game with 5 Griffin Conservatories just because you didn't place the birds on the first turn?
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Offline Myxomoar
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bubuch
"the people who made our SoD, with Tazars and other imbalances)"
if it weren't for this "other imbalance," you and I could sign up for Tournaments-
"it's like shaving a pig—lots of squealing, but little hair!"
Well okay, I touched a sore spot where my competence is questionable, I confess.
Juristis
Did I understand correctly that you surrendered in a game with 5 Cons only because you didn't put birds on the first?
Yes, you understood correctly, I surrendered only because I didn't put birds on the first.
Why? Because there is no way to take these 5 Cons without birds. 5 psychos, 2 birds, a dozen and a half flyers, and a mediocre hero—it's not even certain they can take a second town, let alone others. Maybe I'm a nub and don't know how to use Conservatories, that's quite likely, but I don't think these troops are suitable for such purposes.
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Offline Dark
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Juristis
Did I understand correctly that you surrendered in the game with 5 creatures only because you didn't place birds on the first turn?
just :REKA:

лето 2012.
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Offline Wicc
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Maybe I'm a noob and don't know how to take Conservatories.
Exactly.

For example, in the War of the Tower, players almost never build Aviaries on level 1; instead, they use Psychics. Moreover, there are enough Psychics in the castle even to reach the maximum number (see /topic/7744/, although there is slightly more Air and Water magic there, and Psychics can be upgraded, so a direct comparison is not entirely accurate).

However, for a Conservatory of level two and your troops, it will be sufficient with a margin, even without mass spells. And if you have a Pope with good stats and Blind, then I think you can even handle a level three map, unless they start spamming morale-boosting spells.
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Offline Lider1
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You just forgot to mention, or didn't want to, that in the VT mod, you can play as a Warlock (at least, it was possible before the Moon was unlocked), who has a 25% bonus for Psionic creatures, and they can and should be upgraded. And that changes things a bit. Based on my experience.

Well, a level 2 Consort will definitely be effective in the SoD. And it will be easier after that.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Offline Dirty_Player
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What difference does it make when to surrender: either after the birds don't appear, or after rushing into the Castle and staying there? Only in the second case is there a chance that the Castle will actually fall. It's never too late to surrender ©
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Exactly.


However, for a console-level difficulty and your troops, it should be more than enough, even without using a lot of spells. And if you have a Pope with good stats and the Blind spell, I think you can even handle a difficulty level 3, unless they start spamming mass morale spells.
But that's assuming he didn't lose a lot of troops along the way by week 2.

лето 2012.
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Offline Myxomoar
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This is much more interesting.
I tested it: 5 Psionicists, 15 Air Elementals, 10 Fire Elementals, 8 Earth Elementals, 2 Phoenixes, and a few Sprites are exchanged for 2 Angels: 5 Psionicists, 2-3 Air Elementals, 2-3 Fire Elementals, and 2 Angels remain. The hero has almost zero Piercing Attack: 3, 4, 1, 3, with a book, and I bought another one on day 111; it gave Haste, Slow, and an arrow. What is the approximate battle formation? Because in theory, it's clear that you need to gather 2-3 stacks of Phoenixes around the Earth Elementals or some other damage dealer, and then what? 5 Psionicists barely kill a quarter of a stack... And suddenly, I realized that Griffins peck at my Phoenixes in the first rounds. I also don't know how to deal with that.
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well, that's assuming he didn't build up a huge army by week 2 :)
No, I only built 30 Sprites (20 on the obelisk, the rest just disappeared), and there weren't many Air Elementals at the start. But back to the topic: how do you take it? It's not about closing off Marksmen/Grand Marksmen in a corner and shooting them; it's harder here. In general, describe it for a newbie).
Наполеон в Москву тоже на 133 пришёл ;) (с)
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Offline Vinceras
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If you can’t take the second one, then level up your hero and take the third one.
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