Posts from Jebus Cross - 3

then it would be better to start playing with an open map right away.

then you should play with an open map right away :)

With an open map, the outcome of the game is often clear right from the start. But if you can only see what your opponent has, there are still possibilities.

I remember, in the pre-internet days, we played hot-seat, without looking away while the opponent was making their move. The games were very engaging.

And, in addition to everything else, let's organize a Skype conference with the players; it would probably be fun.
P.S. I'm patenting the tournament "hot-seat online #1".

sarcasm, sarcasm, but IMHO, it would still be worth mentioning something like this in the clarification of fair play.

Are you kidding? This is obvious cheating, just like hacking a map, which means it violates fair play. What normal person would think it's okay to do that?!
I would suggest watching your streams. And you can comment, knowing that your opponent is watching. You can also tease him somehow.
SZOТ, good mood, tomorrow is a day off in Russia))

What normal person would think that this is acceptable?!

When the first streams appeared, Alessandro seriously thought that it was okay to watch the opponents' screens.

11.06.13 darkello(blue, Fortress, Tazar,tazar) def Aiwe(red, danj. shakti,shakti) Jebus Cross 115
Tazar immediately got earth magic base on the stone, on week 8 Crag Hack came as a hero, expanded to 7 heroes, got 85 gnolls on 111... as a result found 3-4 Dragon Fly Hives, 1 conflux useful artifacts before ГО, calmly built up to hydras in the castle, word found, but opp surrendered, I have manticore ГО, opp has ГО SULTANS EFRITI :)
thanks for the game

12.06.2013 ~no1_knows_me~ (blue, Conflux, phoenix, phoenix) def Ayauhteotl (red, Inferno, pit fiend, ?) JC 124

Each chose 3 random towns, one more each from the block, and they played to see what would be dealt!

111 Phoenix arrived. Air magic is not built up. A gap of 7 heroes. There's a Dragon Fly Hive, some free Pandora's Box behind harpies, a Cape of Speed, some skeleton dwellings, a Dragon Utopia.
112 Another Dragon Fly Hive, a Griffin Conservatory, an external dwelling of psychos and air elementals. Double GO: 10-19 gold dragons and 50-99 thunderbirds :eek: I took a Rampart secondary hero.
113 An external dwelling of phoenixes is found :smile20: Two Pandora's Boxes with 20-49 diamond golems are visible, but need to be skirted around a bit... I claimed the air elemental external dwelling, the Griffin Conservatory is strong.
114 In the box behind the harpies, they gave +90 faeries :) not bad. The phoenix runs to town on stables to replenish mana and aims for the dogs for the +2 speed Cape.
115 The phoenix takes the Cape, and nearby there's also a chest with a necklace of speed :smile12: The noob with the Blazing Ring and Courser takes a Fortress secondary hero with a dozen faeries against a basilisk and a dozen gnolls :smile04: nearly 30k gold :smile44:
116 I claim the external dwelling of psychos. I build a fort in the Fortress! The noobs found two more Dragon Fly Hives - total 4 Dragon Fly Hives and 1 Griffin Conservatory, need to gather them somehow.
117 I took the external dwelling of phoenixes :smile12: I took a +5 shield from the basilisks and aimed to run to the Pandora's Boxes, since I've grabbed plenty of basics - logistics, earth, wisdom... I'm counting on experience. At home, 1-7, in the secondary town, wyverns.
121 The phoenix stands on a bird, waiting for the army, the chain dragged to take the hives. +12 wyverns from two dwellings.
122 The phoenix finally reaches the Pandora's Boxes, but only manages to eat one for +5k experience :smile20: The cockroaches took a Jacket of +1 all stats, a Pandora's Box for +20 air elementals, and another +6 wyverns, not bad as Tvarina says :D
123 Dad takes the next Pandora's Box for 10k experience :smile12: Well, now back to town to replenish mana and head to the GO :smile51: Tuner goes to the Griffin Conservatory, I think it'll be a double, didn't take much excess, only a dozen lizardmen... but the Conservatory is maxed :eek: no tome :( in short, had to lose 1 bird and 2 wyverns :mad: Tuner advanced air magic, by scouting the reds don't seem to be in the center yet, good :)
124 I pick up the last Dragon Fly Hive for +6 wyverns, Taz from the Fortress drags another +4 wyverns. The phoenix buys more air elementals at the university and stands by the GO on a bird in anticipation of sweeping everything and eating...
but the GO didn't submit to the opponent...
thanks for the time :smile20:

And the phoenix was so cute

11.06.13 darkello(blue, Fortress, Tazar,tazar) def Aiwe(red, danj. shakti,shakti) Jebus Cross 115
Tazar immediately got Earth basic on the stone, Kreg arrived as the 8th hero, scouted to 7 heroes, got 85 Gnolls on 111... as a result found 3-4 Dragon Fly Hives, 1 useful artifacts before ГО, calmly built up to Hydras in the castle, the word was found, but the opponent surrendered, I have Manticores, opponent has ГО SULTANAS EFREETIS :)
thanks for the game

it was
Thanks for the game

12.06.2013 ~no1_knows_me~ (blue, Conflux, Fury, Fury) def Ayauhteotl (red, Inferno, Pire, ?) JC 124

It happened. From the respawn I found: 2 stacks of devils, a mini-Dragon Fly Hive, 2 Pandora's Boxes, 2 Dragon Utopias, and 7 stacks of imps. On the first turn I took the stacks of devils and the Dragon Fly Hive; quite a lot of meat got drained in the stacks and their guards, so I abandoned the idea of demoning. Barely had enough money for 117 to place the devils in the fort at home. Double GO – 20+ angels and 20+ devils.
At the start of the second turn I took 2 Pandora's Boxes – 80 imps and 45 gogs. Not bad, I suppose, but the heroes are almost unlevelled, and it's unclear what to level on. Ciele had 10 spell power, so I gave her GM4, hoping for Blind and Armageddon. Didn't get them. Earth-Air wasn't offered to anyone either, only Fire.
So we have: 8 devils and a bunch of native meat + Lightning Bolt for 250. There seems to be nothing to do at the respawn – I can't handle the Dragon Utopias, and I don't yet have the skill to run straight into the darkness toward the Griffin Conservatories. I rushed the GO, hoping for a miracle, but after the angels all I had left were devils, and breaking through the second GO is problematic without backup. Surrender.

Thanks for the game.

P.S.: I started looking at the saves, and it turns out that in the prison I didn't take because of GM4 (everyone ran off to reclaim resources), there was an almost perfectly levelled hero. With him, at least I could have broken through the GO properly.)

Diabler (red, Rampart, Xyron, Pikudram, Kyrre) lose Oldboy (blue, Fortress, Tazar) JC 212
Watched the stream. Thanks for the game.

Details were requested. I'll share a bit. Diabler missed a window closer to the end of the game and sent me a series of messages in ICQ, from which I understood that he was either listening to what I was saying on the stream, or discussing it with someone who was listening and spoiling.
During the game, right after the incident, he agreed that this was indeed the case — his friend, and he named the nickname, in this case spoiled info from my stream. Moreover, I immediately analyzed everything and concluded that Diabler derived absolutely no in-game benefit from this particular spoiler. For some reason, Diabler immediately offered to give him a technical loss (!). I insisted that if this was a one-time spoiler, there was no reason for a tech loss; let's keep playing. We'll talk after the game.
The situation became more complicated after the game, because instead of dotting the i's, Diabler went offline for 3 days in the middle of our conversation. After he went offline, I decided to write to the Tournament Committee.
Later, as a result of a conversation with the Tournament Committee, I made a "confession," stating that I played from 121 surrounded by spoilers; one could say I watched the stream.
Whether he actually gained any in-game benefit from it, I don't know.

The Tournament Committee has not yet announced the final decision; R55Max recorded it as a loss for Diabler. Although in reality it wasn't Diabler who lost the game, but me. So this is not an ordinary loss at all, but a disqualification of the opponent from the tournament for violating the rules of fair play. I am still not sure about the optimality of the decision, but this is not uncertainty about the logic, simply because I still do not have all the source information that I can trust 100%, and probably never will. The Tournament Committee will decide the rest.

And regarding the streams, I apologize. Streaming means you take the risk upon yourself and provoke your opponent.

Yeah, it's the same thing – you start playing, and you take the risk upon yourself and provoke your opponent to reveal their strategy.

You can't start a game without trust. And if you trust, why not stream it.

The whole point of streams is the interaction with the streamer/chat; recorded games are much more boring to watch.

The whole point of streams is the interaction with the streamer/chat; recordings are much more boring to watch.

But still:

Streaming is just showing off.

So, we should listen to the opinion of such an experienced person in terms of streaming Heroes.

The final decision from the Arbitration Committee (AK) hasn't been announced yet; R55Max registered it as a loss for Diabler. Although, in reality, Diabler didn't lose the game; I did. So, this isn't just a regular loss, but a disqualification of the opponent from the tournament for violating the fair play rule. I'm still not sure if the decision is optimal, but it's not a lack of confidence in the logic; it's simply because I still don't have all the initial information that I can trust 100%, and I probably won't have it anymore. The rest will be decided by the AK.

One of the AK members wrote to me that you can be advanced to the next round because the tournament schedule is tight. Diabler, as far as I can see, isn't protesting, which means he feels that everything is fair. We probably need to wait for the official announcement from the AK.

So, you should listen to the opinion of such an experienced person when it comes to streaming Heroes.

Oh well... now I'll have to give up streaming :(

Did you tease him?:)

No, of course not! This is a serious topic, and the prizes are huge. Many streamers should seriously consider participating!