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How many players should be considered when calculating the clan rating?
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Take into account the result (or absence) from Tournaments for all members of the Clan who participated in this version of Heroes.
21.4% 6 votes
Take into account the results of Tournaments among a specific number of participants.
32.1% 9 votes
Take into account the results of Tournaments for all players who participated in the Tournament; that is, do not assign a score of zero for missing a tournament.
46.4% 13 votes
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IronAxe
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Kyle;66196
to IronAxe and Inquisitor: I can fulfill your request, but I don’t want to. Why? Here is the answer:
This rating is preliminary. That is, I just wanted to show and discuss how the rating will be calculated in order to choose the best calculation option. This option cannot be called a "Real Clan Rating" because there are many inaccuracies here!
Let's say I enter IronAxe's data! Then the leader of the clan "XXX" will ask me to add the data of a new member, etc., and what's the point?
I thought you would include previous Tournaments in the standings, so I asked you to calculate my rating as well. It was possible to calculate all the Tournaments and make an official announcement that past Tournaments will no longer be taken into account for newly joined clans, and only future ones will count. There was no such announcement. In principle, this option can still be implemented and it is feasible, but it is up to you.
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I want to start calculating the clan rating from the New Year! Only one Tournament has been held this year – the doubles Tournament! I do not want to take the skeletons gathering Tournament into account for obvious reasons (I think Alan and the participants will understand). I also don’t think we should take the four-player Tournament into account, since it is not a qualifying, but rather a training Tournament (I hope ZveroBoy and the participants will also understand). The first stage of the Clan Wars Tournament is currently underway - it will be counted towards the ranking! So I invite everyone to participate!
Sincerely.
Ok. If the clan rating will be calculated only from the new year and only ONE doubles Tournament counts for now, then I withdraw my request, it's a pity, but what can you do. Okay, I don't think I'll play much worse in the next Tournaments :) Regarding the 4v4 and skeleton gathering Tournaments, I absolutely agree that they shouldn't count. I suggest you consider making an announcement about how many people must participate in a Tournament in order for it to be considered legitimate for calculation in the clan rating.

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Dear Kyle, please add Mr. IronAxe to the Alliance of Light clan rating. Otherwise, we need to remove everyone who participated in Competitions outside the clan.
: ) Well, you went there. Let’s call me something simpler, like Iron or Axe. It feels awkward otherwise, and I feel out of place ;) Lords and sirs remained on Hirpor ;)
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Kyle
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I suggest you consider making an announcement stating the minimum number of participants required for a tournament to be considered valid for clan rating calculations.
I've already thought about this...
And I decided to base it on the popularity of each version (see the poll on our portal as an example).
The first one is the founder of the series and, as a result, has been largely forgotten or even unknown to many.
The second one is a logical development of the first, with its own atmosphere that many admire, but for some reason, very few actually play. It's a pity...
The third one is a logical development of the second. The recognized leader of the series.
The fourth one is a revolution in the series, but unfortunately, it wasn't accepted by everyone, which is a shame. In my opinion, the fifth one should have been based on the fourth.
The fifth one is a logical development of the third. A new and popular game with all the consequences that follow.

Therefore, I suggest:
For the first game - two people;
For the second game - two people;
For the third game - three or four people;
For the fourth game - two people;
For the fifth game - three or four people;

I look forward to your comments.

Sincerely.
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Аделаида
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I agree, but let's make it 4 hours for the third game and 3 hours for the fifth game, okay?
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AmberSoler
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Kyle;66330

I look forward to your comments.
It seems to me that there should be no lower limit. Only an upper one makes sense. A small number of players will lower the clan's rating, which will provide an incentive to increase membership. If one player plays (for the first place) — the rating is still calculated; if two play (for third) — we calculate it as well... In my view, there are no problems here. Otherwise, we'll have a funny situation where one clan gets its rating recalculated based on tournament results, while another does not (due to lack of quorum). All the mathematics will fall apart and the rating will lose its meaning...

By the way, how exactly will results be accounted for from one tournament to another? After all, all discussions so far have been centered around calculating the tournament rating for a clan (within a specific tournament). But what happens to this rating afterward? Will it be summed or averaged? This will determine how to view your proposal regarding the number of players.
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Kyle
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By the way, how will the results from tournament to tournament be taken into account? After all, all discussions are currently focused on calculating the tournament rating for a clan (within a specific tournament). And what will happen to this rating afterwards? Will it be summed up or averaged? This will determine how to treat your proposal regarding the number of players.
The system is described in detail here, i.e., there will be both summation and averaging, which is basically clear from the table (rating by second heroes).

Regarding the "lower threshold," I still believe that a minimum should exist because it's a competition between clans, not individual players.

Sincerely.
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Here's my version of the clan ranking system. The file contains two calculation options. The first uses a linear component calculated as a geometric progression. The second uses a linear component calculated as follows: M(n) = 100/n, where n is the clan's ranking.
Feel free to provide feedback.
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Kick away!
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Well, the rating is preliminary. And the idea with progression didn't seem very good to me either, which is why I suggested another option.
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